CPU HOT

M

Michael W

Hi, I have had my new windowsxp for a couple of months now and see that the
CPU is running at a temperature of 70C, Is this normal, OK, To hot,
Dangerous?
Help Please.
Michael w
 
S

Shenan Stanley

Michael said:
Hi, I have had my new windowsxp for a couple of months now and see
that the CPU is running at a temperature of 70C, Is this normal, OK,
To hot, Dangerous?
Help Please.

XP and CPU temperature.
Not REALLY related. Sure, maybe some of XP's functions might cause the CPU
to work harder than some of its predecessors/competitors, but the
relationship is a slight one.

You did not say what type of CPU. AMD/Intel, Speed? Got good air-flow
around the computer? CPU Fan still functional? etc.
 
M

Michael W

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Shenan Stanley said:
XP and CPU temperature.
Not REALLY related. Sure, maybe some of XP's functions might cause the CPU
to work harder than some of its predecessors/competitors, but the
relationship is a slight one.

You did not say what type of CPU. AMD/Intel, Speed? Got good air-flow
around the computer? CPU Fan still functional? etc.
This is all I can find, Hope it's helpfull. Michael w
Motherboard Properties
Motherboard ID 11/07/2003-nVidia-nForce-6A61BM4CC-00
Motherboard Name Unknown

Front Side Bus Properties
Bus Type DEC Alpha EV6
Bus Width 64-bit
Real Clock 166 MHz (DDR)
Effective Clock 333 MHz
Bandwidth 2664 MB/s

Chipset Bus Properties
Bus Type HyperTransport v1.0
Bus Width 8-bit


CPU Properties
CPU Type AMD Athlon XP-A, 1833 MHz (5.5 x 333)
L1 Code Cache 64 KB
L1 Data Cache 64 KB
L2 Cache 512 KB (On-Die, Full-Speed)

CPU Manufacturer
Company Name Advanced Micro Devices, Inc.
Product Information
http://www.amd.com/us-en/Processors/ProductInformation/0,,30_118,00.html

CPU Utilization
CPU #1 2 %
 
N

Nick Burns

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Motherboard Properties
Motherboard ID 11/07/2003-nVidia-nForce-6A61BM4CC-00
Motherboard Name Unknown

Front Side Bus Properties
Bus Type DEC Alpha EV6
Bus Width 64-bit
Real Clock 166 MHz (DDR)
Effective Clock 333 MHz
Bandwidth 2664 MB/s

Chipset Bus Properties
Bus Type HyperTransport v1.0
Bus Width 8-bit


CPU Properties
CPU Type AMD Athlon XP-A, 1833 MHz (5.5 x 333)
L1 Code Cache 64 KB
L1 Data Cache 64 KB
L2 Cache 512 KB (On-Die, Full-Speed)

CPU Manufacturer
Company Name Advanced Micro Devices, Inc.
Product Information
http://www.amd.com/us-en/Processors/ProductInformation/0,,30_118,00.html

CPU Utilization
CPU #1 2 %

I would not run my pc for 5 min at that temp. At 100% load my amd 2800
runs at 48c. Clean you CPU heat sink. Is this a home build.
 
P

peter

YES.......you are running too hot not dangerous yet....is that 60 idle temp or
full load??
especially for a 2500 Barton
things to check: heat sink/fan on the CPU..maybe needs cleaning or
reseating
low front fan blowing in........do you have one?
does it work?
high back fan blowing out....do you have one? does
it work?
how hot is the room the computer is in??
Is there good ventilation all around the computer??
DO a Google for "motherboard Monitor"
download it...........read how to set it up........install it
It will monitor your Temps and Voltages
good luck
peter
 
L

Lil' Dave

This is the cpu kernel temp, not cpu surface temp I imagine. Temp noted is
borderline. AMD cpus normally run a few degrees hotter than the Intel
equivalent.
 
M

Michael W

I had the computer built for me with a local company about four weeks ago, I
know I can take it back but I want to know what I am talking about if I do.
It is a decktop model with a gap of 10cm at the back, one side clear and one
side 5cm that I have increased to 10cm today. It is running in an enviroment
of 22c.the computer has been on since lunch time, not working and the temp
has ranged form 50 to 60c, at the moment it is 52c. I am using a program
called AIDA32 to show sensor results and I have taken a copy that is shown
below, thanks to you all for your replies and more of them if you wish.
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Sensor Properties:
Sensor Type Winbond W83627HF
Sensor Access ISA 290h

Temperatures:
Motherboard 47 °C (117 °F)
CPU 52 °C (126 °F)
Aux 41 °C (106 °F)

Cooling Fans:
CPU 4891 RPM

Voltage Values:
CPU Core 1.63 V
CPU Aux 1.70 V
+3.3 V 3.30 V
+5 V 5.08 V
+12 V 11.55 V
-12 V -12.12 V
-5 V -5.25 V
+5 V Standby 4.97 V
VBAT Battery 2.98 V
 
N

Nick Burns

They may not have used any heat sink compound for the cpu. Check and see if
the cpu fan is loaded with dirt. Take it back and tell them it is running
too hot. How many fans do you have in the system, not counting the power
supply fan...? Post back.





Michael W said:
I had the computer built for me with a local company about four weeks ago, I
know I can take it back but I want to know what I am talking about if I do.
It is a decktop model with a gap of 10cm at the back, one side clear and one
side 5cm that I have increased to 10cm today. It is running in an enviroment
of 22c.the computer has been on since lunch time, not working and the temp
has ranged form 50 to 60c, at the moment it is 52c. I am using a program
called AIDA32 to show sensor results and I have taken a copy that is shown
below, thanks to you all for your replies and more of them if you wish.
--------[ AIDA32 (c) 1995-2003 Unlimited
Possibilities ]-------------------------------------------------------------
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Author (e-mail address removed)
Homepage http://www.aida32.hu
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Generator Michael
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Date 2004-05-09
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M

Michael W

The computer case has seals on it so I can't go into it. I do remember him
saying he had put a cpu fan on with a copper base that would transfer heat
away better. I have had the comp on this morning since 8 am, now 11:30am,
not doing anything and the temp has been <> 50C. The temp was up to 48 after
30 mins of being on. I think there is just the Power Supply fan plus the cpu
fan.
Do you think I would be in order complaining, (i.e. their fault) with a temp
of 50C doing nothing?, keeping in mind things will go worse not better,
after having gone on line and done this mail the temp is showing 52C
Michael w

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Nick Burns said:
They may not have used any heat sink compound for the cpu. Check and see if
the cpu fan is loaded with dirt. Take it back and tell them it is running
too hot. How many fans do you have in the system, not counting the power
supply fan...? Post back.





Michael W said:
I had the computer built for me with a local company about four weeks
ago,
I
know I can take it back but I want to know what I am talking about if I do.
It is a decktop model with a gap of 10cm at the back, one side clear and one
side 5cm that I have increased to 10cm today. It is running in an enviroment
of 22c.the computer has been on since lunch time, not working and the temp
has ranged form 50 to 60c, at the moment it is 52c. I am using a program
called AIDA32 to show sensor results and I have taken a copy that is shown
below, thanks to you all for your replies and more of them if you wish.
--------[ AIDA32 (c) 1995-2003 Unlimited
Possibilities ]-------------------------------------------------------------
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Author (e-mail address removed)
Homepage http://www.aida32.hu
Report Type Quick Report
Computer MSA-53ODDB9083C
Generator Michael
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Date 2004-05-09
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N

Nick Burns

When your run a game for a bit, exit out of the game and check the temp, it
will be high as your cpu will be running at near 100%. I have 5 fans in my
case and my 2800 + will idle at well right now 42c. I would add all the fans
I could. I would call the makers and tell them what you have been told here
and see what they say. If they don't want to do anything I would put more
fans in myself, or find someone who will.

My case has to big fans for exhaust, one in the front for intake, one in the
side panel blowing in on the cpu, one on the cpu.
Your temp is in spec for the amd processor, but heat kills it the long run.


Michael W said:
The computer case has seals on it so I can't go into it. I do remember him
saying he had put a cpu fan on with a copper base that would transfer heat
away better. I have had the comp on this morning since 8 am, now 11:30am,
not doing anything and the temp has been <> 50C. The temp was up to 48 after
30 mins of being on. I think there is just the Power Supply fan plus the cpu
fan.
Do you think I would be in order complaining, (i.e. their fault) with a temp
of 50C doing nothing?, keeping in mind things will go worse not better,
after having gone on line and done this mail the temp is showing 52C
Michael w

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Nick Burns said:
They may not have used any heat sink compound for the cpu. Check and see if
the cpu fan is loaded with dirt. Take it back and tell them it is running
too hot. How many fans do you have in the system, not counting the power
supply fan...? Post back.





Michael W said:
I had the computer built for me with a local company about four weeks
ago,
I
know I can take it back but I want to know what I am talking about if
I
do.
It is a decktop model with a gap of 10cm at the back, one side clear
and
one
side 5cm that I have increased to 10cm today. It is running in an enviroment
of 22c.the computer has been on since lunch time, not working and the temp
has ranged form 50 to 60c, at the moment it is 52c. I am using a program
called AIDA32 to show sensor results and I have taken a copy that is shown
below, thanks to you all for your replies and more of them if you wish.
--------[ AIDA32 (c) 1995-2003 Unlimited
Possibilities ]-------------------------------------------------------------
Windows
XP
Personal 5.1.2600 (WinXP Retail)
Date 2004-05-09
Time 23:39


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U

Unknown

50 degrees C is not too hot for a CPU.
Michael W said:
I had the computer built for me with a local company about four weeks ago, I
know I can take it back but I want to know what I am talking about if I do.
It is a decktop model with a gap of 10cm at the back, one side clear and one
side 5cm that I have increased to 10cm today. It is running in an enviroment
of 22c.the computer has been on since lunch time, not working and the temp
has ranged form 50 to 60c, at the moment it is 52c. I am using a program
called AIDA32 to show sensor results and I have taken a copy that is shown
below, thanks to you all for your replies and more of them if you wish.
--------[ AIDA32 (c) 1995-2003 Unlimited
Possibilities ]-------------------------------------------------------------
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Author (e-mail address removed)
Homepage http://www.aida32.hu
Report Type Quick Report
Computer MSA-53ODDB9083C
Generator Michael
Operating System Microsoft Windows XP
Personal 5.1.2600 (WinXP Retail)
Date 2004-05-09
Time 23:39


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Sensor Properties:
Sensor Type Winbond W83627HF
Sensor Access ISA 290h

Temperatures:
Motherboard 47 °C (117 °F)
CPU 52 °C (126 °F)
Aux 41 °C (106 °F)

Cooling Fans:
CPU 4891 RPM

Voltage Values:
CPU Core 1.63 V
CPU Aux 1.70 V
+3.3 V 3.30 V
+5 V 5.08 V
+12 V 11.55 V
-12 V -12.12 V
-5 V -5.25 V
+5 V Standby 4.97 V
VBAT Battery 2.98 V





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peter said:
YES.......you are running too hot not dangerous yet....is that 60 idle temp or
full load??
especially for a 2500 Barton
things to check: heat sink/fan on the CPU..maybe needs cleaning or
reseating
low front fan blowing in........do you have one?
does it work?
high back fan blowing out....do you have one? does
it work?
how hot is the room the computer is in??
Is there good ventilation all around the computer??
DO a Google for "motherboard Monitor"
download it...........read how to set it up........install it
It will monitor your Temps and Voltages
good luck
peter
 
P

peter

I just took a quick look at my readings from Aida32 and its your MOBO temp that
is very high.
This usually signals a lack of air circulation inside the case.Install some fans
low front intake and back high for out .By cooling the inside more the other
temps will come down.The Heatsink&Fan on the CPU has no cooler air to blow onto
the CPU therefore it is running warmer than it should for the computing that you
are doing.
You would notice a very significant increase in temp if you played a serious
game.
With the fans your temps will decrease a lot.I am overclocked with only 2fans
plus 2 on the PSU plus an Aero7 lite and I only get as high a temp as you when I
play a long game.
Fans do not cost an arm and a leg and are fairly easy to install youself.
After you install post back with your new lower temps and you'll find people
saying your fine!!

peter

Michael W said:
I had the computer built for me with a local company about four weeks ago, I
know I can take it back but I want to know what I am talking about if I do.
It is a decktop model with a gap of 10cm at the back, one side clear and one
side 5cm that I have increased to 10cm today. It is running in an enviroment
of 22c.the computer has been on since lunch time, not working and the temp
has ranged form 50 to 60c, at the moment it is 52c. I am using a program
called AIDA32 to show sensor results and I have taken a copy that is shown
below, thanks to you all for your replies and more of them if you wish.
--------[ AIDA32 (c) 1995-2003 Unlimited
Possibilities ]-------------------------------------------------------------
---

Version AIDA32 v3.23.7
Author (e-mail address removed)
Homepage http://www.aida32.hu
Report Type Quick Report
Computer MSA-53ODDB9083C
Generator Michael
Operating System Microsoft Windows XP
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Date 2004-05-09
Time 23:39


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Sensor Properties:
Sensor Type Winbond W83627HF
Sensor Access ISA 290h

Temperatures:
Motherboard 47 °C (117 °F)
CPU 52 °C (126 °F)
Aux 41 °C (106 °F)

Cooling Fans:
CPU 4891 RPM

Voltage Values:
CPU Core 1.63 V
CPU Aux 1.70 V
+3.3 V 3.30 V
+5 V 5.08 V
+12 V 11.55 V
-12 V -12.12 V
-5 V -5.25 V
+5 V Standby 4.97 V
VBAT Battery 2.98 V
 
T

tim

For your CPU heatsink rpm and make of CPU that tempature
of around 50C is normal. What applications were you using
to get the temp up to 70C? If it was not a graphic
intense game, I would be concerned. When you say the case
is sealed, how is it actually sealed? I would never
purchase a built computer that I'm not able to open.
 
T

tom

Your MoBo temp is way to hot, I'd give the computer back
to whom ever built it, and tell them to install more or
bigger fans to improve air circulation inside the case.
 
M

Michael W

Sorry for the delay guys, The computer has been back and had a full check
out, one or two things have been changed in Bios but I don't know what. I
also had them put another fan in the box, I must say when I saw the box
opened it was obvious what a crap design as to air flow it was. I got a fan
placed to give a much better flow through the box and things have been ok
since.
I would like to thank everyone who put their twopennath
in with all the advice, I will not hesitate to ask again if I have any
problems.
Thanks.
michael w
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peter said:
I just took a quick look at my readings from Aida32 and its your MOBO temp that
is very high.
This usually signals a lack of air circulation inside the case.Install some fans
low front intake and back high for out .By cooling the inside more the other
temps will come down.The Heatsink&Fan on the CPU has no cooler air to blow onto
the CPU therefore it is running warmer than it should for the computing that you
are doing.
You would notice a very significant increase in temp if you played a serious
game.
With the fans your temps will decrease a lot.I am overclocked with only 2fans
plus 2 on the PSU plus an Aero7 lite and I only get as high a temp as you when I
play a long game.
Fans do not cost an arm and a leg and are fairly easy to install youself.
After you install post back with your new lower temps and you'll find people
saying your fine!!

peter

Michael W said:
I had the computer built for me with a local company about four weeks ago, I
know I can take it back but I want to know what I am talking about if I do.
It is a decktop model with a gap of 10cm at the back, one side clear and one
side 5cm that I have increased to 10cm today. It is running in an enviroment
of 22c.the computer has been on since lunch time, not working and the temp
has ranged form 50 to 60c, at the moment it is 52c. I am using a program
called AIDA32 to show sensor results and I have taken a copy that is shown
below, thanks to you all for your replies and more of them if you wish.
--------[ AIDA32 (c) 1995-2003 Unlimited
Possibilities ]-------------------------------------------------------------
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Version AIDA32 v3.23.7
Author (e-mail address removed)
Homepage http://www.aida32.hu
Report Type Quick Report
Computer MSA-53ODDB9083C
Generator Michael
Operating System Microsoft Windows XP
Personal 5.1.2600 (WinXP Retail)
Date 2004-05-09
Time 23:39


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Sensor Properties:
Sensor Type Winbond W83627HF
Sensor Access ISA 290h

Temperatures:
Motherboard 47 °C (117 °F)
CPU 52 °C (126 °F)
Aux 41 °C (106 °F)

Cooling Fans:
CPU 4891 RPM

Voltage Values:
CPU Core 1.63 V
CPU Aux 1.70 V
+3.3 V 3.30 V
+5 V 5.08 V
+12 V 11.55 V
-12 V -12.12 V
-5 V -5.25 V
+5 V Standby 4.97 V
VBAT Battery 2.98 V
 
N

Nick Burns

Cool :)

Michael W said:
Sorry for the delay guys, The computer has been back and had a full check
out, one or two things have been changed in Bios but I don't know what. I
also had them put another fan in the box, I must say when I saw the box
opened it was obvious what a crap design as to air flow it was. I got a fan
placed to give a much better flow through the box and things have been ok
since.
I would like to thank everyone who put their twopennath
in with all the advice, I will not hesitate to ask again if I have any
problems.
Thanks.
michael w
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All mail is Checked by TREND MICRO PC-cillin Anti-Virus system
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peter said:
I just took a quick look at my readings from Aida32 and its your MOBO
temp
that
is very high.
This usually signals a lack of air circulation inside the case.Install some fans
low front intake and back high for out .By cooling the inside more the other
temps will come down.The Heatsink&Fan on the CPU has no cooler air to
blow
onto
the CPU therefore it is running warmer than it should for the computing that you
are doing.
You would notice a very significant increase in temp if you played a serious
game.
With the fans your temps will decrease a lot.I am overclocked with only 2fans
plus 2 on the PSU plus an Aero7 lite and I only get as high a temp as
you
when I
play a long game.
Fans do not cost an arm and a leg and are fairly easy to install youself.
After you install post back with your new lower temps and you'll find people
saying your fine!!

peter
I
and
one
side 5cm that I have increased to 10cm today. It is running in an enviroment
of 22c.the computer has been on since lunch time, not working and the temp
has ranged form 50 to 60c, at the moment it is 52c. I am using a program
called AIDA32 to show sensor results and I have taken a copy that is shown
below, thanks to you all for your replies and more of them if you wish.
--------[ AIDA32 (c) 1995-2003 Unlimited
Possibilities ]-------------------------------------------------------------
Windows
XP
Personal 5.1.2600 (WinXP Retail)
Date 2004-05-09
Time 23:39


--------[
Sensor ]--------------------------------------------------------------------
 
D

David Candy

Intel sold fans with it's CPU (even though in a proper case they weren't required) because they finally released computer designers just couldn't design heat right.

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Nick Burns said:
Cool :)

Michael W said:
Sorry for the delay guys, The computer has been back and had a full check
out, one or two things have been changed in Bios but I don't know what. I
also had them put another fan in the box, I must say when I saw the box
opened it was obvious what a crap design as to air flow it was. I got a fan
placed to give a much better flow through the box and things have been ok
since.
I would like to thank everyone who put their twopennath
in with all the advice, I will not hesitate to ask again if I have any
problems.
Thanks.
michael w
--
All mail is Checked by TREND MICRO PC-cillin Anti-Virus system
(http://www.antivirus.com).
peter said:
I just took a quick look at my readings from Aida32 and its your MOBO
temp
that
is very high.
This usually signals a lack of air circulation inside the case.Install some fans
low front intake and back high for out .By cooling the inside more the other
temps will come down.The Heatsink&Fan on the CPU has no cooler air to
blow
onto
the CPU therefore it is running warmer than it should for the computing that you
are doing.
You would notice a very significant increase in temp if you played a serious
game.
With the fans your temps will decrease a lot.I am overclocked with only 2fans
plus 2 on the PSU plus an Aero7 lite and I only get as high a temp as
you
when I
play a long game.
Fans do not cost an arm and a leg and are fairly easy to install youself.
After you install post back with your new lower temps and you'll find people
saying your fine!!

peter

I had the computer built for me with a local company about four weeks ago, I
know I can take it back but I want to know what I am talking about if
I
do.
It is a decktop model with a gap of 10cm at the back, one side clear
and
one
side 5cm that I have increased to 10cm today. It is running in an enviroment
of 22c.the computer has been on since lunch time, not working and the temp
has ranged form 50 to 60c, at the moment it is 52c. I am using a program
called AIDA32 to show sensor results and I have taken a copy that is shown
below, thanks to you all for your replies and more of them if you wish.
--------[ AIDA32 (c) 1995-2003 Unlimited
Possibilities ]-------------------------------------------------------------
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Author (e-mail address removed)
Homepage http://www.aida32.hu
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Computer MSA-53ODDB9083C
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