CPU FAN FOR P5W2D Premium

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dennis

Will the Thermaltake CL-P0092 Silent 755 P4 Socket 775 CPU Fan fit on this
board. Seems like from what I can see it is the best fan out to use. If
not can someone recommend a good fan or a site that will show what fans fit
what boards and/or reviews. Thanks in advance.
 
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Andre

For me, the Thermalright XP90c with its adapter RM775 and a silent 92 mm fan
is the best choice.

My P4 550 remains at 45-55 °C in place of 65-75 °C in full load with a
Thermaltake Silent 775.

And quiet silencious !!!

The Thermalright XP90c is really great, believe me.

Regards,

Andre
 
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Paul

Will the Thermaltake CL-P0092 Silent 755 P4 Socket 775 CPU Fan fit on this
board. Seems like from what I can see it is the best fan out to use. If
not can someone recommend a good fan or a site that will show what fans fit
what boards and/or reviews. Thanks in advance.

There are two things to look at. Performance is measured in
the thermal resistance. Your CL-P0092 has a thermal resistance
of 0.28 degrees C per watt. That means the temperature rises
28 degrees when the processor dissipates 100 watts of heat.
If the room temp is 25C, the air inside the computer case is
32C-35C, and you add 28C to the 35C, you could get to a processor
temperature of 63C.

0.28C/W is only a "middle of the road" performance figure.

There are a number of heatsinks that achieve <0.20C/W .
Generally, a heatsink which is larger than the socket retainer,
is a good candidate for this level of performance.

If you buy a large heatsink, you have to make sure it will fit,
and some companies make this easier to figure out than others.

Another aspect to watch for, is the weight of the heatsink, and
the "force arm". I do not recommend "tower" heatsinks, as when
the computer case is upright, the "tower" is sticking out sideways,
and all the weight is suspended from the upper side of the
retention bracket. The best heatsink designs will keep the weight
next to the motherboard, rather than suspending a tall structure
from the motherboard when the computer case is upright.

As Andre points out, the XP90/XP90C is not overly large and
is a popular choice. The only thing I have against the XP-90
and XP-120, is you have to shop separately for a fan for the
heatsink, as one does not accompany the product.

http://www.thermalright.com/a_page/main_product_xp90C_775.htm

"Intel P4 socket T (LGA775) Platform

With a customized LGA775 adapter kit , XP-90 can be installed
on a Intel Pentium4 socket T motherboard. So far, we have not
found any board that is not compatible with XP-90.  (Some Asus
socket T motherboards such as  ASUS P5AD2 Premium may have
mechanical issues due to Stack Cool module on back of
motherboards. 
Please check with Thermalright resellers for new version LGA 775
adapter kit before you place your order.)"

AFAIK, you will need to buy:

1) XP-90C ($63)
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16835109122
2) adapter kit for LGA775, as detailed here ($5):
http://www.thermalright.com/a_page/main_support_installation_lga775.htm
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16835999351
3) fan FBA09A12M1A ($14) no RPM signal. 48CFM airflow.
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16835180088
4) Fanmate2 voltage adjuster ($6)
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16835118217

Panaflo fans - the FBA09A12H1BX ($8.75) is similar to (3) above,
but is 56CFM and it has an RPM signal (that is the BX suffix).
http://dkc3.digikey.com/PDF/T053/1511.pdf

I don't think Digikey throws in a cable assembly for the fan. The
fan just has pins on it. You will likely need one FCC-000-ND $1.72
"lead wire assembly", some crimp pins part number A1950CT-ND 100
pins for $2.96, and a plastic housing for the pins A1948-ND $0.25
Total cost to "build" a fan is $13.68. Remarkably close to the
Newegg price.

You could also look at a Zalman 7000 or 7700. A 7000 needs a
ZM-CS1 adapter kit, to fit LGA775 motherboards. The 7700
is LGA775 ready, but is larger diameter. Here, in this
7700 compatibility table, you can see about 15mm clearance
is needed from a typical LGA775 motherboard top edge to the
PSU casing. The 7700 has a radius of 68mm and the 7000 has
a radius of 55mm, so the space between the top edge of the
motherboard and the bottom of the PSU, drops to a few mm
with the 7000.

http://www.zalman.co.kr/product/cooler/7700-775MBlist_eng.htm

The advantage of the two Zalman product types, is the fan
is built in, and there is a speed adjuster included. The
7700 is $40, the 7000B $33-$43 plus a ZM-CS1 adapter for $7.
Either pure Cu or AlCu versions are available, with the
aluminum ones being lighter.

HTH,
Paul
 
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dennis

Paul, Where are you getting your numbers from. I would like to compare some
of the new fans. The XP90C looks nice and not to worried about getting the
fan seperately.
 
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Paul

Paul, Where are you getting your numbers from. I would like to compare some
of the new fans. The XP90C looks nice and not to worried about getting the
fan seperately.

The slope of the plot on this page is 0.28°C/W. That is where
I got my number.
http://www.thermaltake.com/coolers/cl-p0092silent775/cl-p0092silent775.htm

Zalman CNPS7700-AlCu 0.21-0.28°C/W (depends on fan speed)
http://www.zalman.co.kr/eng/product/view.asp?idx=146&code=005009

Zalman CNPS7700-Cu 0.19-0.24°C/W (depends on fan speed)
http://www.zalman.co.kr/eng/product/view.asp?idx=145&code=005009

Zalman CNPS7000B-AlCu 0.22-0.29°C/W (depends on fan speed)
http://www.zalman.co.kr/eng/product/view.asp?idx=142&code=005009

Zalman CNPS7000B-Cu 0.20-0.27°C/W (depends on fan speed)
http://www.zalman.co.kr/eng/product/view.asp?idx=141&code=005009

XP-120 (no spec given, fan dependent, must use review site)
http://www.thermalright.com/a_page/main_product_xp120_775.htm
0.16-0.28°C/W shown here http://www.overclockers.com/articles1043/
0.19°C/W with Panaflo http://www.silentpcreview.com/article186-page4.html
I think this thing needs LGA775RM adapter.

XP-90C (no spec given, fan dependent, must use review site)
(This number is too good. One site showed the XP-90C is 5% better
than the XP-90. Even at 0.18°C/W it would be damn good.)
0.13°C/W with strong fan http://www.overclockers.com/articles1211/

XP-90 (no spec given, fan dependent, must use review site)
0.19°C/W with Panaflo http://www.silentpcreview.com/article194-page3.html

The latest Zalman appears to have a problem. The CNPS9500 is
0.12-0.16°C/W but the base is made from bendable copper, and
apparently when it is fastened to the motherboard, the force
applied causes the base to bend. (This was noted on two review
sites.) Not ready for prime-time... It is also more of a
"tower" form factor. Perhaps they can try another alloy, if
they want to make the base that thin.

For sheer excess, have a look at the "Sonic Tower"
http://www.thermaltake.com/coolers/4in1heatpipe/cl-p0071SonicTower/cl-p0071.htm
Rated at 0.26°C/W by Tomshardware.
http://www.tomshardware.com/cpu/20050607/cpu-cooler-29.html

This article rates an older Intel retail HSF at 0.33°C/W
Since new Intel designs come out all the time, there may
be some that are better than that.
http://www.silentpcreview.com/article138-page1.html

Paul
 

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