color change of imported pictures in slide show view

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PP version 2002-When I import a picture(insert>from file) to normal view, I
have no difficulty. Upon changing to slide show view, pictures from one
source change colors to become an unrecognizable slide.
Nikon D70 with AF 105mm lense, manual exposure settings,file size 2.12 mb
yields an extremely distorted color change picture in slide show view.

Nikon D70 with manual focus 120mm lense, file size 2.1 mb yields a properly
colored slide without any color distortion.

Nikon 885 with AF, file size 989 kb also yields a properly colored slide
without any color distortion.

Any thoughts about the cause of coloration distortion? This is driving me
crazy!
 
What is the file format of the image and was it processed in Photoshop before
inserting in PowerPoint? PowerPoint renders everything in RGB. Is your image
CMYK?
 
Thank you for your response. The file format is JPEG and it was not processed
in photoshop! Sorry, but I'm not familiar with CMYK. Your RGB statement is
interesting. Should the camera be cooridinated in some way with RGB?
Ron
 
Your camera probably renders in RGB, but you should be able to find the image in
Windows Explorer, right click it and select Properties and click on the Summary
tab. You might see a color setting value of sRGB. It all depends on the camera
and whether you have it set to capture all of the info in the output file. I
wonder if your camera came with any software that you've installed and which
uses "color management". Do you know?

Also, I would check a few things: What is your display resolution and what
color depth is set? 24 or 32 bit is best. You should check to see whether
there is a new driver available for your video card. If so, download and
install it.

Can you tell us more about the image problem? You say that it isn't
recognizable. Do you just mean the color has changed? What has it change from
and to? Is it like a "wash" of a particular color, or have all the colors
changed to something different?
 
PP version 2002-When I import a picture(insert>from file) to normal view, I
have no difficulty. Upon changing to slide show view, pictures from one
source change colors to become an unrecognizable slide.
Nikon D70 with AF 105mm lense, manual exposure settings,file size 2.12 mb
yields an extremely distorted color change picture in slide show view.

It may have to do with the format of the image and what apps it went through to
get into PPT. The D70 can give you Raw, JPG or Raw+JPG images. Which are you
using?

Some image formats can include "metadata", data about the image as opposed to
just the image data itself. JPGs from digicams typically include lots of this
stuff; exposure, date, camera data and so on. Sometimes programs downstream
that open the images will misunderstand some of the data and produce odd
results. How did you get the images from the D70 onto your computer and what
did you do with them from there?
 
Thank you for your response. The file format is JPEG and it was not processed
in photoshop! Sorry, but I'm not familiar with CMYK. Your RGB statement is
interesting. Should the camera be cooridinated in some way with RGB?

The camera only produces RGB. No problem there, so long your image editing
software isn't doing a CMYK conversion.
 
In the two pictures that project well in slide show, the "color
representation" property is sRGB. In the picture that exhibits color
distortion, the "color representation" property is listed as "uncalibrated".

My Niikon camera did come with "color management" software. jHowever, since
I experienced no difficulty with the first lense, I have not installed it. I
am saving everything in a "fine JPEG" format and am not saving anything using
a "raw" format, Using the raw format dictates that I must use the camera
color management software.

My monitor resolution is 1024 x 768 and the color quality is 32
bit(highest). I will check about the availability of a new driver tommorrow.

The color has changed from a normal anticipated color with recognizable and
anticipated shapes to unrecogniizable shape and coloration that has no
relation to the expected color. In this case,the slide is almost totally a
luminescent pink with a small distribution of green in the upper right corner.

An interesting development in my three slide ppt presntation test; now the
slide show view is normal and the distorted (as described above) picture now
occupies the work space location in the normal view, while a normal picture
is seen in the slides tab of the normal viewl So the situation is improved,
but not predictable!

Additionally, does CMYK mean cyan magenta yellow black? If this is true,
what does it imply?
 
I'm just learning the program. Was having trouble importing .bmp files into
Powerpoint 97 - they came in with a very strong magenta tone that made the
slide unusable. Installed Powerpoint 2000 into a separate directory, it
brings the bitmaps in perfectly. No changes to the computer or operating
system (XP Home, SP2).


 
I responded to the CYMK statemtne after you wrote this response. I believe
that CYMK means cyan-magenta-yellow-black. If this is true, I still dont know
exactly what this means. To the best of my knowledge, I am not using any
editing software.
Thank you for your response.
 
If you have image editing software (Photoshop, Paint Shop Pro, etc.) I think I
would open the file, size it to 1024 X 768 pixels, and then save it as a PNG
file and try it in PowerPoint. That won't correct what's going on in the
camera, but it might get you a displayable image.

I don't know what the color representation of "uncalibrated" means. Steve
might. Did you use different settings for that particular image?

CMYK is the color model used for printing processes.
 
I am using JPG(Fine).

I transferred the pictures from the D70 to my computer using the HP
Photosmart Inkjet printer card reader. The files are stored im "My
Documents". Your question is interesting be cause my computer is a Dell
desktop. I bring that up because Dell installs a proprietary "Dell Picture
Studio" software package that interacts with Windows picture viewing whether
or not you want it to. I don't know whether any modifications are made to the
transferred (camera to computer) files or not. I will say that pictures from
these files print just fine.

Also, I have two earlier responses that have been added since your current
response.
 
In the two pictures that project well in slide show, the "color
representation" property is sRGB. In the picture that exhibits color
distortion, the "color representation" property is listed as "uncalibrated".

Where do you see this information, Ron? And (to avoid chasing red herrings) what if
you take the same photo several times using all the same settings, but switching only
lenses between shots?

Then if possible, don't use any software at all to work with the images. Remove the
flash card from the camera and transfer the images to your PC using a flash card
reader (or use the USB camera and treat the camera as though it were a disk drive if
possible). Insert the photos into PPT and see if there's a problem with any of them.

Also, in reply to one of the other posts, CMYK = Cyan, Magenta, Yellow, Black as you
thought. Unless some other software is grabbing the images along the way and doing
some kind of conversion, I doubt *very* much that the images are in CMYK. We can put
that one aside for now.
 
Steve, thank you for the late response. I realize that this is dragging on.

I get this information by right clicking the picture file( in My Documents)>
properties> summary> advanced and scrolling down to color representation. I
can also get there through clicking Windows Explorer.

I can't change lenses because the older lense no longer functions(I believe
that a problem between lenses is a red herring anyway).

However, tomorrow I will set the color representation property to sRGB, take
a new pictire and USB the camera file directly to the computer and My
Documents. I have also learned how to override the Dell software.

I will report back tomorrow night. My thanks to you and Sonia for your
help.Ron
 
Steve, thank you for the late response. I realize that this is dragging on.

That's no problem .... as long as it leads to a solution, it's no problem.
I get this information by right clicking the picture file( in My Documents)>
properties> summary> advanced and scrolling down to color representation. I
can also get there through clicking Windows Explorer.

Ah! Live and learn. I see the same thing.
I can't change lenses because the older lense no longer functions(I believe
that a problem between lenses is a red herring anyway).

However, tomorrow I will set the color representation property to sRGB, take
a new pictire and USB the camera file directly to the computer and My
Documents. I have also learned how to override the Dell software.

I will report back tomorrow night. My thanks to you and Sonia for your
help.Ron

I'm anxious to see how this works out, Ron. Thanks for your cooperation and patience.
 
I am using JPG(Fine).

I transferred the pictures from the D70 to my computer using the HP
Photosmart Inkjet printer card reader. The files are stored im "My
Documents". Your question is interesting be cause my computer is a Dell
desktop. I bring that up because Dell installs a proprietary "Dell Picture
Studio" software package that interacts with Windows picture viewing whether
or not you want it to. I don't know whether any modifications are made to the
transferred (camera to computer) files or not. I will say that pictures from
these files print just fine.

Also, I have two earlier responses that have been added since your current
response.


Just a thought, but your printer might be interfering here -- it might be
correcting the photo according to a printer profile. Try downloading directly
with the computer and the Nikon software via the USB port. I know picture
project is somewhat of a pain, but it will transfer the files without a
problem. I have a D70 (love it) and have no problem with the pictures.
You might also want to dump the Dell Picture Studio. You should be able to
change the file associations on your computer so that the Dell program is
bypassed. I forget how but maybe someone else will weigh in on that one.

BJ
 
bj@notyour business.org (BJChadwick) said:
Just a thought, but your printer might be interfering here -- it might be
correcting the photo according to a printer profile. Try downloading directly
with the computer and the Nikon software via the USB port. I know picture
project is somewhat of a pain, but it will transfer the files without a
problem. I have a D70 (love it) and have no problem with the pictures.
You might also want to dump the Dell Picture Studio. You should be able to
change the file associations on your computer so that the Dell program is
bypassed. I forget how but maybe someone else will weigh in on that one.

BJ
Thanks BJ
That is exactly what I'm in the process of doing. I will repost after I've
completed the task.
Ron
 
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