cloning a hard drive - software of choice?

M

MK

Hi,
I bought BootIT NG to clone a hard drive so I could increase my drive size
from 40 GB to 160 GB. I spent a week now cleaning the new hard drive and
setting it up by copying and pasting the
partitions in BootIt NG and then taking out the
old HD. I've tried dozens of variations on the advice of the tech support. I
have the log-on, can get into my WIN98 partition, but XP gives me registry
failure: Stop 00000051, or can't load hive default_. My XP (SP2, all
up-to-date) setup runs great on the old HD, just running out of space. I had
run chkdsk on the old HD partitons before the copy several times to be sure.
Tested my memory, ran utility checks on both drives and they came out
"certified error free". I've images and restored....(I know all the jumper
options off by heart by now...) Once I tried a repair with the XP disk (i.e.
near reinstall, not repair console)which seemed to work, but that seemed
rather tedious after spending money on software to do it. Has anyone had
better experience with Ghost or any other software.
Thanks
Michael
 
P

Pegasus \(MVP\)

MK said:
Hi,
I bought BootIT NG to clone a hard drive so I could increase my drive size
from 40 GB to 160 GB. I spent a week now cleaning the new hard drive and
setting it up by copying and pasting the
partitions in BootIt NG and then taking out the
old HD. I've tried dozens of variations on the advice of the tech support. I
have the log-on, can get into my WIN98 partition, but XP gives me registry
failure: Stop 00000051, or can't load hive default_. My XP (SP2, all
up-to-date) setup runs great on the old HD, just running out of space. I had
run chkdsk on the old HD partitons before the copy several times to be sure.
Tested my memory, ran utility checks on both drives and they came out
"certified error free". I've images and restored....(I know all the jumper
options off by heart by now...) Once I tried a repair with the XP disk (i.e.
near reinstall, not repair console)which seemed to work, but that seemed
rather tedious after spending money on software to do it. Has anyone had
better experience with Ghost or any other software.
Thanks
Michael
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I have used Acronis' True Image extensively, with few if any problems.

I assume, by the way, that the new disk runs in the same box
as the old disk. Does it?

Here is an easy and free way to clone your WinXP partition:
1. Install the old and the new disk in some other Win2000/XP
PC. Make sure to leave that PCs primary master disk as
a primary master disk.
2. Use xcopy.exe with the appropriate switches to copy the
old disk to the new disk. You must copy system files and
hidden files too!
3. Format a floppy disk on your WinXP/2000 PC.
4. Copy these hidden files from your old disk to A: -
- c:\ntldr
- c:\ntdetect.com
- c:\boot.ini
5. Install the new disk in its proper PC. Do NOT connect
the old PC.
6. Reboot with the floppy disk. Does it work?

If you do not have ready access to another PC then you
can do the same with a Bart PE boot CD (www.bootdisk.com).
To manufacture it, you need a WinXP Professional CD and
a CD burner.

If Step 6 works then you have to restore the WinXP boot
environment. Post again if you need any guidance.

Instead of using BootIT, you could use XOSL. It's a
terrific boot loader, and it's completely free.
 
G

Guest

See Discussion on "Making Internal HDD Removable?"
Flick Symantric - USE ACRONIS
Highly recommended if you stick to the basics.
 
R

Richard Urban

Windows XP is sensitive to drive location and partition location. Thus if
you have it installed on drive 1, partition 2 on the old drive, you will
have to install/image it to the same relative partition on the new drive.
Then you have to make the new drive the master. You also have to be certain
that the new partition is set as active (bootable).

--
Regards,

Richard Urban

aka Crusty (-: Old B@stard :)

If you knew as much as you think you know,
You would realize that you don't know what you thought you knew!
 
L

lforbes

better experience with Ghost or any other software

Hi,

Did you run SYSPREP? I wouldn’t image XP without running Sysprep
first. Sysprep prepares your drive for imaging. Also, IF you don’t
intend to run the XP on two drives at once, you can just tick the "no
sid gen" which won’t generate a new SID. You can get Sysprep from
the XP cd in the resources. Run Setup Manager to set it up. Also, I
highly recommended adding the following to the sysprep.inf to load all
drivers for all harddrives.

[SysprepMassStorage]
PCMCIA\*PNP0600=%systemroot%\inf\mshdc.inf
PCMCIA\KME-KXLC005-A99E=%systemroot%\inf\mshdc.inf
PCMCIA\_-NinjaATA--3768=%systemroot%\inf\mshdc.inf
PCMCIA\FUJITSU-IDE-PC_CARD-DDF2=%systemroot%\inf\mshdc.inf
*AZT0502=%systemroot%\inf\mshdc.inf
PCI\CC_0101=%systemroot%\inf\mshdc.inf
PCI\VEN_10B9&DEV_5215=%systemroot%\inf\mshdc.inf
PCI\VEN_10B9&DEV_5219=%systemroot%\inf\mshdc.inf
PCI\VEN_10B9&DEV_5229=%systemroot%\inf\mshdc.inf
PCI\VEN_1097&DEV_0038=%systemroot%\inf\mshdc.inf
PCI\VEN_1095&DEV_0640=%systemroot%\inf\mshdc.inf
PCI\VEN_1095&DEV_0646=%systemroot%\inf\mshdc.inf
PCI\VEN_0E11&DEV_AE33=%systemroot%\inf\mshdc.inf
PCI\VEN_8086&DEV_1222=%systemroot%\inf\mshdc.inf
PCI\VEN_8086&DEV_1230=%systemroot%\inf\mshdc.inf
PCI\VEN_8086&DEV_7010=%systemroot%\inf\mshdc.inf
PCI\VEN_8086&DEV_7111=%systemroot%\inf\mshdc.inf
PCI\VEN_8086&DEV_2411=%systemroot%\inf\mshdc.inf
PCI\VEN_8086&DEV_2421=%systemroot%\inf\mshdc.inf
PCI\VEN_8086&DEV_2441=%systemroot%\inf\mshdc.inf
PCI\VEN_8086&DEV_244A=%systemroot%\inf\mshdc.inf
PCI\VEN_8086&DEV_244B=%systemroot%\inf\mshdc.inf
PCI\VEN_8086&DEV_7199=%systemroot%\inf\mshdc.inf
PCI\VEN_1042&DEV_1000=%systemroot%\inf\mshdc.inf
PCI\VEN_1039&DEV_0601=%systemroot%\inf\mshdc.inf
PCI\VEN_1039&DEV_5513=%systemroot%\inf\mshdc.inf
PCI\VEN_10AD&DEV_0001=%systemroot%\inf\mshdc.inf
PCI\VEN_10AD&DEV_0150=%systemroot%\inf\mshdc.inf
PCI\VEN_105A&DEV_4D33=%systemroot%\inf\mshdc.inf
PCI\VEN_1106&DEV_0571=%systemroot%\inf\mshdc.inf
 
M

MK

I don't have ready access to a second XP PC. The new HD is supposed to
eventually run in the same box as the old. I'll keep your steps for refernce
though and will look into the other software. Thanks.
MK
 
M

MK

My hope is to set it up the same way. Yes, I have the 1st parition (WIN 98)
active.
Thanks
MK
 
M

MK

Haven't tried sysprep. I'll look into it. Thanks
MK
lforbes said:
better experience with Ghost or any other software
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Hi,

Did you run SYSPREP? I wouldn't image XP without running Sysprep
first. Sysprep prepares your drive for imaging. Also, IF you don't
intend to run the XP on two drives at once, you can just tick the "no
sid gen" which won't generate a new SID. You can get Sysprep from
the XP cd in the resources. Run Setup Manager to set it up. Also, I
highly recommended adding the following to the sysprep.inf to load all
drivers for all harddrives.

[SysprepMassStorage]
PCMCIA\*PNP0600=%systemroot%\inf\mshdc.inf
PCMCIA\KME-KXLC005-A99E=%systemroot%\inf\mshdc.inf
PCMCIA\_-NinjaATA--3768=%systemroot%\inf\mshdc.inf
PCMCIA\FUJITSU-IDE-PC_CARD-DDF2=%systemroot%\inf\mshdc.inf
*AZT0502=%systemroot%\inf\mshdc.inf
PCI\CC_0101=%systemroot%\inf\mshdc.inf
PCI\VEN_10B9&DEV_5215=%systemroot%\inf\mshdc.inf
PCI\VEN_10B9&DEV_5219=%systemroot%\inf\mshdc.inf
PCI\VEN_10B9&DEV_5229=%systemroot%\inf\mshdc.inf
PCI\VEN_1097&DEV_0038=%systemroot%\inf\mshdc.inf
PCI\VEN_1095&DEV_0640=%systemroot%\inf\mshdc.inf
PCI\VEN_1095&DEV_0646=%systemroot%\inf\mshdc.inf
PCI\VEN_0E11&DEV_AE33=%systemroot%\inf\mshdc.inf
PCI\VEN_8086&DEV_1222=%systemroot%\inf\mshdc.inf
PCI\VEN_8086&DEV_1230=%systemroot%\inf\mshdc.inf
PCI\VEN_8086&DEV_7010=%systemroot%\inf\mshdc.inf
PCI\VEN_8086&DEV_7111=%systemroot%\inf\mshdc.inf
PCI\VEN_8086&DEV_2411=%systemroot%\inf\mshdc.inf
PCI\VEN_8086&DEV_2421=%systemroot%\inf\mshdc.inf
PCI\VEN_8086&DEV_2441=%systemroot%\inf\mshdc.inf
PCI\VEN_8086&DEV_244A=%systemroot%\inf\mshdc.inf
PCI\VEN_8086&DEV_244B=%systemroot%\inf\mshdc.inf
PCI\VEN_8086&DEV_7199=%systemroot%\inf\mshdc.inf
PCI\VEN_1042&DEV_1000=%systemroot%\inf\mshdc.inf
PCI\VEN_1039&DEV_0601=%systemroot%\inf\mshdc.inf
PCI\VEN_1039&DEV_5513=%systemroot%\inf\mshdc.inf
PCI\VEN_10AD&DEV_0001=%systemroot%\inf\mshdc.inf
PCI\VEN_10AD&DEV_0150=%systemroot%\inf\mshdc.inf
PCI\VEN_105A&DEV_4D33=%systemroot%\inf\mshdc.inf
PCI\VEN_1106&DEV_0571=%systemroot%\inf\mshdc.inf

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M

MK

WHat changes will sysrep make to my present setup? Will it still be the same
after it goes through it's processes? If not, would I be able to use system
restore afterwards?
Also, with the change in HD size, would I need to use: ExtendOemPartition?
Thanks
Michael

lforbes said:
better experience with Ghost or any other software
Click to expand...

Hi,

Did you run SYSPREP? I wouldn't image XP without running Sysprep
first. Sysprep prepares your drive for imaging. Also, IF you don't
intend to run the XP on two drives at once, you can just tick the "no
sid gen" which won't generate a new SID. You can get Sysprep from
the XP cd in the resources. Run Setup Manager to set it up. Also, I
highly recommended adding the following to the sysprep.inf to load all
drivers for all harddrives.

[SysprepMassStorage]
PCMCIA\*PNP0600=%systemroot%\inf\mshdc.inf
PCMCIA\KME-KXLC005-A99E=%systemroot%\inf\mshdc.inf
PCMCIA\_-NinjaATA--3768=%systemroot%\inf\mshdc.inf
PCMCIA\FUJITSU-IDE-PC_CARD-DDF2=%systemroot%\inf\mshdc.inf
*AZT0502=%systemroot%\inf\mshdc.inf
PCI\CC_0101=%systemroot%\inf\mshdc.inf
PCI\VEN_10B9&DEV_5215=%systemroot%\inf\mshdc.inf
PCI\VEN_10B9&DEV_5219=%systemroot%\inf\mshdc.inf
PCI\VEN_10B9&DEV_5229=%systemroot%\inf\mshdc.inf
PCI\VEN_1097&DEV_0038=%systemroot%\inf\mshdc.inf
PCI\VEN_1095&DEV_0640=%systemroot%\inf\mshdc.inf
PCI\VEN_1095&DEV_0646=%systemroot%\inf\mshdc.inf
PCI\VEN_0E11&DEV_AE33=%systemroot%\inf\mshdc.inf
PCI\VEN_8086&DEV_1222=%systemroot%\inf\mshdc.inf
PCI\VEN_8086&DEV_1230=%systemroot%\inf\mshdc.inf
PCI\VEN_8086&DEV_7010=%systemroot%\inf\mshdc.inf
PCI\VEN_8086&DEV_7111=%systemroot%\inf\mshdc.inf
PCI\VEN_8086&DEV_2411=%systemroot%\inf\mshdc.inf
PCI\VEN_8086&DEV_2421=%systemroot%\inf\mshdc.inf
PCI\VEN_8086&DEV_2441=%systemroot%\inf\mshdc.inf
PCI\VEN_8086&DEV_244A=%systemroot%\inf\mshdc.inf
PCI\VEN_8086&DEV_244B=%systemroot%\inf\mshdc.inf
PCI\VEN_8086&DEV_7199=%systemroot%\inf\mshdc.inf
PCI\VEN_1042&DEV_1000=%systemroot%\inf\mshdc.inf
PCI\VEN_1039&DEV_0601=%systemroot%\inf\mshdc.inf
PCI\VEN_1039&DEV_5513=%systemroot%\inf\mshdc.inf
PCI\VEN_10AD&DEV_0001=%systemroot%\inf\mshdc.inf
PCI\VEN_10AD&DEV_0150=%systemroot%\inf\mshdc.inf
PCI\VEN_105A&DEV_4D33=%systemroot%\inf\mshdc.inf
PCI\VEN_1106&DEV_0571=%systemroot%\inf\mshdc.inf

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R

Richard Urban

Now you're talking about dual booting. That add new problems.

If drive C: is set as active and you install Windows XP to another partition
(D:), some of the critical files are still installed on drive C:. Now when
to copy the image of D: to a new drive, into the same relative partition,
those files on drive C: will not be there - unless you also copied/imaged
drive C: also.

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Regards,

Richard Urban

aka Crusty (-: Old B@stard :)

If you knew as much as you think you know,
You would realize that you don't know what you thought you knew!
 
M

MK

Sorry I wasn't clear. C: is WIN 98 (2 GB) D is XP (extended) about 17 GB
NTFS, E: is data storage, about 18 or so GB (whatever is left), NTFS. I
copied all 3 partitions, set C active, resized only D (60 GB) and E (90GB)to
use the remaining space. I get the select OS screen and can get into WIN98,
but can't manage getting into XP.
Thanks
Michael
 
R

Richard Urban

Don't know why you are having problems. I have done this three times in the
last two weeks for my 2 sons and a friend of theirs. It worked each time -
as it should.

I used Ghost 9.0 in the process.

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Regards,

Richard Urban

aka Crusty (-: Old B@stard :)

If you knew as much as you think you know,
You would realize that you don't know what you thought you knew!
 

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