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Guest
Is there anyone who cleans up the extra code that FP inserts into a web page
for a resonable fee?
Thanks,
Marie
for a resonable fee?
Thanks,
Marie
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Helpful person
It's probably better to do what I am doing. Rewrite the web page in
strict html. The learning curve for html is about the same as
FrontPage and you also end up with clean code. There is also the
additional arguement that you get away from an obsolete and somewhat
poor program.
www.richardfisher.com (not yet rewritten)
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Thomas A. Rowe
What extra code are you talking about?
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Guest
I'm not sure Mr. Rowe, I have just had a lot of people tell me that FrontPage
inserts lot of unnecessary code that causes it to be hard for the search
engine spiders and robots to crawl the page. I am just wanting to get my site
more search engine friendly.
inserts lot of unnecessary code that causes it to be hard for the search
engine spiders and robots to crawl the page. I am just wanting to get my site
more search engine friendly.
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Mark Fitzpatrick
The code FP inserts is pretty straightforward. The issues come when you use
certain features that would make it difficult simply because of the nature
of the items. For example, Hover Buttons are horrible because they are Java
Applets and not the same as a simple hyperlink. Avoiding the drawing toolbar
is also a good idea because it uses VML (Vector Markup Language) which works
in IE and may cause some odd bloat to the page that a search engine doesn't
pickup. Basically though, there isn't much that FP can insert that won't be
picked up by the search engines. If you have a specific example or a URL we
can take a look at, we can give some recommendations on whether or not
anything is needed to improve the friendliness of it.
certain features that would make it difficult simply because of the nature
of the items. For example, Hover Buttons are horrible because they are Java
Applets and not the same as a simple hyperlink. Avoiding the drawing toolbar
is also a good idea because it uses VML (Vector Markup Language) which works
in IE and may cause some odd bloat to the page that a search engine doesn't
pickup. Basically though, there isn't much that FP can insert that won't be
picked up by the search engines. If you have a specific example or a URL we
can take a look at, we can give some recommendations on whether or not
anything is needed to improve the friendliness of it.
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Guest
Thanks, Mr. Fitzpatrick, for your reply. No, I don't use anything like Kover
buttons or anything out of the oridinary. I don't know enough about FrontPage
to do more than the basics. That is the reason I was thrilled to find this
site.
The only issue that I have had is that my site doesn't show up correctly in
Foxfire, or Firefox (can't remember what it is called..senior moment).
The site is www.tiskettaskets.com
Thanks and have a great Sunday.
Marie
buttons or anything out of the oridinary. I don't know enough about FrontPage
to do more than the basics. That is the reason I was thrilled to find this
site.
The only issue that I have had is that my site doesn't show up correctly in
Foxfire, or Firefox (can't remember what it is called..senior moment).
The site is www.tiskettaskets.com
Thanks and have a great Sunday.
Marie
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Ronx
FP2000 and FP2002 insert extra code into the table tag, but none of it
will have any effect on search engines.
FP2003 allows the use of VML graphics. This adds huge amounts of code
to the page which cannot be rendered by FireFox and other non-IE
browsers - but again will have no effect on search engines.
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FrontPage Support: http://www.frontpagemvps.com/
will have any effect on search engines.
FP2003 allows the use of VML graphics. This adds huge amounts of code
to the page which cannot be rendered by FireFox and other non-IE
browsers - but again will have no effect on search engines.
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Ron Symonds - Microsoft MVP (FrontPage)
Reply only to group - emails will be deleted unread.
http://www.rxs-enterprises.org/fp
FrontPage Support: http://www.frontpagemvps.com/
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Guest
Thank you all so much for your responses. I suppose that I have been getting
some bad information. I was told that my site had a lot of extra code that FP
automatically inserts when you do not code by hand, and that it was hard for
the spiders to find their way through it.
My site is www.tiskettaskets.com and I use FP 2002.
some bad information. I was told that my site had a lot of extra code that FP
automatically inserts when you do not code by hand, and that it was hard for
the spiders to find their way through it.
My site is www.tiskettaskets.com and I use FP 2002.
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Steve Easton
I took a look at your home page and the source code.
I didn't see anything wrong that would affect search engines.
The problem with firefox is that your height and width "units" are
not specified.
They are just <td width="740" height="114">
and need to be <td width="740px" height="114px">
Also image heights and widths are not specified correctly.
<img border="0" src="images/spacer.gif" width="150" height="10">
should be:
<img border="0" src="images/spacer.gif" width="150px" height="10px">
Also:
<body background="images/Background.jpg" topmargin="0" leftmargin="0" rightmargin="0" bottommargin="0">
needs to be
<body background="images/Background.jpg" margin-top="0" margin-left="0" margin-right="0" margin-bottom="0">
That "should" fix the problems in Firefox.
However, you really should learn to use css to apply the styles for the page.
But the above should help.
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Steve Easton
Microsoft MVP FrontPage
FP Cleaner
http://www.95isalive.com/fixes/fpclean.htm
Hit Me FP
http://www.95isalive.com/fixes/HitMeFP.htm
I didn't see anything wrong that would affect search engines.
The problem with firefox is that your height and width "units" are
not specified.
They are just <td width="740" height="114">
and need to be <td width="740px" height="114px">
Also image heights and widths are not specified correctly.
<img border="0" src="images/spacer.gif" width="150" height="10">
should be:
<img border="0" src="images/spacer.gif" width="150px" height="10px">
Also:
<body background="images/Background.jpg" topmargin="0" leftmargin="0" rightmargin="0" bottommargin="0">
needs to be
<body background="images/Background.jpg" margin-top="0" margin-left="0" margin-right="0" margin-bottom="0">
That "should" fix the problems in Firefox.
However, you really should learn to use css to apply the styles for the page.
But the above should help.
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Steve Easton
Microsoft MVP FrontPage
FP Cleaner
http://www.95isalive.com/fixes/fpclean.htm
Hit Me FP
http://www.95isalive.com/fixes/HitMeFP.htm
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Thomas A. Rowe
Steve,
For standard HTML table and images tags you do not need "px" when working with a fixed width, you
will need "%" if working with percentages.
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For standard HTML table and images tags you do not need "px" when working with a fixed width, you
will need "%" if working with percentages.
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Thomas A. Rowe
Microsoft MVP - FrontPage
http://www.Ecom-Data.com
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Steve Easton
Hi Thomas.
I opened the page in FF and ran the error console on the page.
Although i agree with you, it took forever for FF to properly display the images
and I'm assuming setting the unit will help.
Also I noticed the animated flag gif worked in FF but not in IE 7 and I'm assuming setting
the units will fix that too.
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Steve Easton
Microsoft MVP FrontPage
FP Cleaner
http://www.95isalive.com/fixes/fpclean.htm
Hit Me FP
http://www.95isalive.com/fixes/HitMeFP.htm
I opened the page in FF and ran the error console on the page.
Although i agree with you, it took forever for FF to properly display the images
and I'm assuming setting the unit will help.
Also I noticed the animated flag gif worked in FF but not in IE 7 and I'm assuming setting
the units will fix that too.
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Steve Easton
Microsoft MVP FrontPage
FP Cleaner
http://www.95isalive.com/fixes/fpclean.htm
Hit Me FP
http://www.95isalive.com/fixes/HitMeFP.htm
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Thomas A. Rowe
Steve, I had no problem with displaying the images in FF 2.0 and the animated flag works fine in IE7
for me.
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for me.
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Steve Easton
Hmm, interesting!!
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Thomas A. Rowe said:
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Thomas A. Rowe
Do you have animation enabled in IE7?
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Steve Easton
Yes, I sure do. I double checked when I noticed it was an animated gif in FF
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Microsoft MVP FrontPage
FP Cleaner
http://www.95isalive.com/fixes/fpclean.htm
Hit Me FP
http://www.95isalive.com/fixes/HitMeFP.htm
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Steve Easton
Microsoft MVP FrontPage
FP Cleaner
http://www.95isalive.com/fixes/fpclean.htm
Hit Me FP
http://www.95isalive.com/fixes/HitMeFP.htm
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ANONYMOUS
You can do this yourself by downloading a trial version of Dreamweaver.
Load the page in dreamweaver and Select commands, Clean HTML.
Dreamweaver is very good in cleaning html pages created with Word.
hth
Load the page in dreamweaver and Select commands, Clean HTML.
Dreamweaver is very good in cleaning html pages created with Word.
hth