Category View Doesn't "Stick"

[Guest]

I like to view my contacts by category. My default sort in this view is by
Full Name. When I sort by another field, I lose my category groupings i.e.,
it looks like a phone list view even though I am still in category view. The
only way to get my contacts grouped by category again is to reset the
category view via View> Arrange By> Define Views> Reset.

I have tried making my own custom view grouping by category, but the problem
happens here, too.

Is there anyway to "lock" the grouping by category in the Category view so
that sorting by different fields does not affect the view?

 

[Russ Valentine [MVP-Outlook]]

I'll bet you know your Outlook version.
We don't.

 

[Guest]

Outlook 2003.
--
Christina

I'll bet you know your Outlook version.
We don't.
--
Russ Valentine
[MVP-Outlook]

I like to view my contacts by category. My default sort in this view is by
Full Name. When I sort by another field, I lose my category groupings
i.e.,
it looks like a phone list view even though I am still in category view.
The
only way to get my contacts grouped by category again is to reset the
category view via View> Arrange By> Define Views> Reset.

I have tried making my own custom view grouping by category, but the
problem
happens here, too.

Is there anyway to "lock" the grouping by category in the Category view so
that sorting by different fields does not affect the view?

 

[Russ Valentine [MVP-Outlook]]

Well no wonder.
Judy Gleeson has provided the following workaround to overcome the new way
Outlook 2003 sorts the "By Category" view:

Use the Detailed or Simple List view, show the columns you want to see
(field chooser), click the column (eg Last Name) you want to sort by, THEN
use the group by box to group by Category. That should have alphabetical as
well as the grouping.

--
Russ Valentine
[MVP-Outlook]

Outlook 2003.
--
Christina

I'll bet you know your Outlook version.
We don't.
--
Russ Valentine
[MVP-Outlook]

I like to view my contacts by category. My default sort in this view is
by
Full Name. When I sort by another field, I lose my category groupings
i.e.,
it looks like a phone list view even though I am still in category
view.
The
only way to get my contacts grouped by category again is to reset the
category view via View> Arrange By> Define Views> Reset.

I have tried making my own custom view grouping by category, but the
problem
happens here, too.

Is there anyway to "lock" the grouping by category in the Category view
so
that sorting by different fields does not affect the view?

 

[Guest]

Thanks, Russ. However, I think the solution you provided may be for use with
Tasks as it has the Simple and Detailed view options.

However, I did attempt to do something similar in the Contacts view using
one of the standard views - Phone List. I continue to have the same problem
when I sort on another field.

For whatever reason, it just doesn't want to keep the group by when sorting
on another field.
--
Christina

Well no wonder.
Judy Gleeson has provided the following workaround to overcome the new way
Outlook 2003 sorts the "By Category" view:

Use the Detailed or Simple List view, show the columns you want to see
(field chooser), click the column (eg Last Name) you want to sort by, THEN
use the group by box to group by Category. That should have alphabetical as
well as the grouping.

--
Russ Valentine
[MVP-Outlook]

Outlook 2003.
--
Christina

I'll bet you know your Outlook version.
We don't.
--
Russ Valentine
[MVP-Outlook]
I like to view my contacts by category. My default sort in this view is
by
Full Name. When I sort by another field, I lose my category groupings
i.e.,
it looks like a phone list view even though I am still in category
view.
The
only way to get my contacts grouped by category again is to reset the
category view via View> Arrange By> Define Views> Reset.

I have tried making my own custom view grouping by category, but the
problem
happens here, too.

Is there anyway to "lock" the grouping by category in the Category view
so
that sorting by different fields does not affect the view?

 

[Judy Gleeson \(MVP Outlook\)]

It works with any table View in 2003. In Contacts it works with the Phone
List View.

It would be nice if you had tried it before telling all readers that it's
not relevant. Thousands of people read each of these posts!

Judy Gleeson
MVP Outlook
Trainer and Consultant

read my articles here: www.judygleeson.com
Canberra, Australia

how to post questions: http://support.microsoft.com/?id=555375

Thanks, Russ. However, I think the solution you provided may be for use
with
Tasks as it has the Simple and Detailed view options.

However, I did attempt to do something similar in the Contacts view using
one of the standard views - Phone List. I continue to have the same
problem
when I sort on another field.

For whatever reason, it just doesn't want to keep the group by when
sorting
on another field.
--
Christina

Well no wonder.
Judy Gleeson has provided the following workaround to overcome the new
way
Outlook 2003 sorts the "By Category" view:

Use the Detailed or Simple List view, show the columns you want to see
(field chooser), click the column (eg Last Name) you want to sort by,
THEN
use the group by box to group by Category. That should have alphabetical
as
well as the grouping.

--
Russ Valentine
[MVP-Outlook]

Outlook 2003.
--
Christina


:

I'll bet you know your Outlook version.
We don't.
--
Russ Valentine
[MVP-Outlook]
I like to view my contacts by category. My default sort in this view
is
by
Full Name. When I sort by another field, I lose my category
groupings
i.e.,
it looks like a phone list view even though I am still in category
view.
The
only way to get my contacts grouped by category again is to reset
the
category view via View> Arrange By> Define Views> Reset.

I have tried making my own custom view grouping by category, but the
problem
happens here, too.

Is there anyway to "lock" the grouping by category in the Category
view
so
that sorting by different fields does not affect the view?

 

[Guest]

Judy:
You may have misunderstood my message as I did not indicate that Russ's
response was not relevant. However, I did indicate that the solution provided
did not work for me.

Using the Phone List table in Contacts, I can select any field to group by
e.g., Company or Job Title, and then sort on any field in the list and not
lose the group by settings except for when I group by Category.

This problem is not unique to my Outlook settings as others in my firm are
experiencing the same problem.

The only solution that I have been able to come up with is to group by a
field that has no content i.e, Callback, and then sub group by Category.


--
Christina

It works with any table View in 2003. In Contacts it works with the Phone
List View.

It would be nice if you had tried it before telling all readers that it's
not relevant. Thousands of people read each of these posts!

Judy Gleeson
MVP Outlook
Trainer and Consultant

read my articles here: www.judygleeson.com
Canberra, Australia

how to post questions: http://support.microsoft.com/?id=555375

Thanks, Russ. However, I think the solution you provided may be for use
with
Tasks as it has the Simple and Detailed view options.

However, I did attempt to do something similar in the Contacts view using
one of the standard views - Phone List. I continue to have the same
problem
when I sort on another field.

For whatever reason, it just doesn't want to keep the group by when
sorting
on another field.
--
Christina

Well no wonder.
Judy Gleeson has provided the following workaround to overcome the new
way
Outlook 2003 sorts the "By Category" view:

Use the Detailed or Simple List view, show the columns you want to see
(field chooser), click the column (eg Last Name) you want to sort by,
THEN
use the group by box to group by Category. That should have alphabetical
as
well as the grouping.

--
Russ Valentine
[MVP-Outlook]
Outlook 2003.
--
Christina


:

I'll bet you know your Outlook version.
We don't.
--
Russ Valentine
[MVP-Outlook]
I like to view my contacts by category. My default sort in this view
is
by
Full Name. When I sort by another field, I lose my category
groupings
i.e.,
it looks like a phone list view even though I am still in category
view.
The
only way to get my contacts grouped by category again is to reset
the
category view via View> Arrange By> Define Views> Reset.

I have tried making my own custom view grouping by category, but the
problem
happens here, too.

Is there anyway to "lock" the grouping by category in the Category
view
so
that sorting by different fields does not affect the view?

 

[Judy Gleeson \(MVP Outlook\)]

I repeat one more time and and then I will go away.

My solution works. Sort first, then Group By Category.

Judy Gleeson
MVP Outlook
Trainer and Consultant

read my articles here: www.judygleeson.com
Canberra, Australia

how to post questions: http://support.microsoft.com/?id=555375

Judy:
You may have misunderstood my message as I did not indicate that Russ's
response was not relevant. However, I did indicate that the solution
provided
did not work for me.

Using the Phone List table in Contacts, I can select any field to group by
e.g., Company or Job Title, and then sort on any field in the list and not
lose the group by settings except for when I group by Category.

This problem is not unique to my Outlook settings as others in my firm are
experiencing the same problem.

The only solution that I have been able to come up with is to group by a
field that has no content i.e, Callback, and then sub group by Category.


--
Christina

It works with any table View in 2003. In Contacts it works with the
Phone
List View.

It would be nice if you had tried it before telling all readers that it's
not relevant. Thousands of people read each of these posts!

Judy Gleeson
MVP Outlook
Trainer and Consultant

read my articles here: www.judygleeson.com
Canberra, Australia

how to post questions: http://support.microsoft.com/?id=555375

Thanks, Russ. However, I think the solution you provided may be for use
with
Tasks as it has the Simple and Detailed view options.

However, I did attempt to do something similar in the Contacts view
using
one of the standard views - Phone List. I continue to have the same
problem
when I sort on another field.

For whatever reason, it just doesn't want to keep the group by when
sorting
on another field.
--
Christina


:

Well no wonder.
Judy Gleeson has provided the following workaround to overcome the new
way
Outlook 2003 sorts the "By Category" view:

Use the Detailed or Simple List view, show the columns you want to see
(field chooser), click the column (eg Last Name) you want to sort by,
THEN
use the group by box to group by Category. That should have
alphabetical
as
well as the grouping.

--
Russ Valentine
[MVP-Outlook]
Outlook 2003.
--
Christina


:

I'll bet you know your Outlook version.
We don't.
--
Russ Valentine
[MVP-Outlook]
I like to view my contacts by category. My default sort in this
view
is
by
Full Name. When I sort by another field, I lose my category
groupings
i.e.,
it looks like a phone list view even though I am still in
category
view.
The
only way to get my contacts grouped by category again is to reset
the
category view via View> Arrange By> Define Views> Reset.

I have tried making my own custom view grouping by category, but
the
problem
happens here, too.

Is there anyway to "lock" the grouping by category in the
Category
view
so
that sorting by different fields does not affect the view?