Card Recommendations for 18" LCD Panel for mostly photoshop work

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Coolasblu

Hi

I currently own:

Athlon XP 2400+
512MB PC2100 RAM
Asus A7V266-E
2x120GB Western Digital HD
ATI AIW Radeon 32MB
18" LCD at 1280x1024 DVI

Recently I have started working on large photoshop files (7 MB RAW) which
has caused some delay in screen refreshing, rather than the instant
refreshes I was used to with smaller files. I play the occasional game, but
when I do, I want it to run smoothly and use my monitors max res. which is
1280x1024.

So I assume I do not need the top end gaming cards, but what is the best
option ?

Thanks
 
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Coolasblu

Coolasblu said:
Hi

I currently own:

Athlon XP 2400+
512MB PC2100 RAM
Asus A7V266-E
2x120GB Western Digital HD
ATI AIW Radeon 32MB
18" LCD at 1280x1024 DVI

Recently I have started working on large photoshop files (7 MB RAW) which
has caused some delay in screen refreshing, rather than the instant
refreshes I was used to with smaller files. I play the occasional game, but
when I do, I want it to run smoothly and use my monitors max res. which is
1280x1024.

So I assume I do not need the top end gaming cards, but what is the best
option ?

BTW - an AIW is not necessary but VIVO might be.
 
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Coolasblu

Thanks Tod,

You have confirmed my shortlist is accurate!

Is there much difference in performance between the 9600/pro/xt?
 
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Sham B

Screen refresh is down to the speed at which your computer can work with 7MB
raw photoshop files, rather than the actual refresh rate of your graphics
card. The video card is not the bottleneck - the amount it has to draw has
not changed simply because you are editing bigger files.
What you do need is more memory (so that PhotoShop uses physical memory
rather than virtual (ie on the hard drive) memory), faster scratch disk (so
virtual memory is faster when it simply has to be used) and a faster
processor. This will give better refresh, but will not fix the problem
totally - you may be better off simply accepting the delay in refresh as a
consequence of your using large files.

If you changed one thing, it would be to increase your memory from 512Mb to
1024Mb. Memory doesn't cost much, so you might even try upping the memory
to 2 or 3Gb. Be wary that some Motherboards say they can support 3Gb, but
don't recognize anything over 1Gb, check your actual max available memory by
interrogating the physical mobo itself (via a suitable system benchmarker or
sysInfo app) rather than believing the hype.

I use PhotoShop CS and 3DMax regularly (the two biggest resource hogs going)
and both were much more responsive with the inclusion of a single 50 quid
512Mb memory stick, taking me to 1Gb. The second best upgrade was a very
fast hard drive to use as the PhotoShop scratch disk (I tend to produce
20-40Mb images, easily done for a 10 layer 300dpi color image, as you
probablywell know!). Look at buying a 30-40Mb fast hard drive (the best
ones are usually designed for use on servers - have a look at Western
Digital Raptor drives, a small one should do - 20-40Gig).

My recommendations:

1. try more memory - upgrade to 1Gb. Faster memory is more or less a con
(that's what processor cache memory is for - accessing slow memory without
performance penalties, so faster memory has less of an effect than you
think).... so PC 2700 memory will make no real difference, stick to PC2100,
just buy more of it with the money if you can
2. 40Gig server drive as dedicated Photoshop scratch disk. Don't put
anything else on this disk, don't specify a directory for Photoshop to place
the scratch file (specify the root dir, E:/ or whatever) and delete any tmp
files that PhotoShop sometimes leaves on it every month or so.

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Wayne Youngman

If you changed one thing, it would be to increase your memory from 512Mb to
1024Mb. Memory doesn't cost much, so you might even try upping the memory
to 2 or 3Gb.


Lol!
Memory doesn't cost much?????????????????
2-3GBs omg what are you saying! The memory I just bought (512MB-Dual
Channel OCZ PC3500) was the second most expensive purchase for my system:

512MB = £145 UK - £267 US

1GB = £290 UK - $534 US
2GB = £580 UK - $1,069.24

I'm not even gonna bother working out 3GB :p
 
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Tod

9600 PRO 400mhz
9600 XT 500mhz
XT cards also have a newer chip that can overclock itself.
It allows the chip to run faster if it is not too hot. (I don't know if the
feature is in use yet ?)
The XT also comes with better compression.
Upgrading to more PC2100 memory might be helpful for the stuff you work
with.
 
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Dick Sidbury

Sham said:
Yeah, but he's got PC 2100. Cheap as.. erm.... chips!

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and, in the US at least you can buy 1gb of ozc pc3500 memory for about
200 dollars.

dick
 
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Coolasblu

OK - So I have just bought a 9600XT by Asus. Am awaiting a 1Gig stick of
PC2100.

Having installed the 9600XT, it appears that the 2D perfomance is SLOWER
than my AIW Radeon. Screen refresh rates when the desktop is starting up is
noticeably slower.

I did unstall my old drivers as per instructions. I know my board only
supports 4xAGP.

Can this be possible ? Slower 2D perfomance ?
 
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Coolasblu

Coolasblu said:
OK - So I have just bought a 9600XT by Asus. Am awaiting a 1Gig stick of
PC2100.

Having installed the 9600XT, it appears that the 2D perfomance is SLOWER
than my AIW Radeon. Screen refresh rates when the desktop is starting up is
noticeably slower.

I did unstall my old drivers as per instructions. I know my board only
supports 4xAGP.

Can this be possible ? Slower 2D perfomance ?


Am using drivers on the ASUS CD = 7.95.4-031101
 
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Coolasblu

Coolasblu said:
OK - So I have just bought a 9600XT by Asus. Am awaiting a 1Gig stick of
PC2100.

Having installed the 9600XT, it appears that the 2D perfomance is SLOWER
than my AIW Radeon. Screen refresh rates when the desktop is starting up is
noticeably slower.

I did unstall my old drivers as per instructions. I know my board only
supports 4xAGP.

Can this be possible ? Slower 2D perfomance ?


ATI driver version = 6.14.10.6396
 
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