Can't See PC's in Workgroup

[Guest]

Two XP SP2 machines, one is wired, one is wireless. I can see the wireless
PC from the wired, but when trying to look the other way I get an error
telling me the workgroup is not available or I don't have permission to view.
I'm completely stumped. Disable firewalls on both machines. Can ping both
ways. HELP!!

 

[Carey Holzman]

www.careyholzman.com/net1.htm

Carey

 

[Tom Brown]

Carey,

I have the same problem, one wired, one wireless, and I can't see the other
machine. I do have internet access from both machines. I did all the steps
listed in your net1.htm link but still have no success.

On each machine, I can only see the machine I am on. I can also ping the
other machine. Also, on my wireless laptop, the wireless router is hooked
to the wired cable coming from my wired router. So, I guess the laptop is
going through two routers. Is that a problem?

Also, in carrying out the steps on your web page, you said to delete
anything except Client, File Sharing, and TCP/IP. I deleted one called Qos
Packet Scheduling. Is that going to cause me any problem?

Thanks,

Tom

 

[Carey Holzman]

You don't need QoS. The web-site instructs you to do things that are not
harmful, and that's why those directions specify the configuration as such.

What operating system are you running on each PC?

You have two routers? Why? What are the makes and models?

What is the exact error message you get and when do you get it?

Carey

 

[Guest]

Check this out...
I added a machine running 98. It's wired to the router and I can see it
from my wireless XP connection, but I still can not see the other wired XP
machine. So, to sum things up...
XP (wired) can see: 98 and XP wireless
98 machine can see: XP wired and XP wireless
XP (wireless) can see: 98 only

 

[Chuck]

Check this out...
I added a machine running 98. It's wired to the router and I can see it
from my wireless XP connection, but I still can not see the other wired XP
machine. So, to sum things up...
XP (wired) can see: 98 and XP wireless
98 machine can see: XP wired and XP wireless
XP (wireless) can see: 98 only

Can you ping each computer (by ip address) from each other computer? If you
have IP connectivity (ping / internet service OK), but "can't see" other
computers (Network Neighborhood) consistently, you have a browser (not Internet
Explorer here) problem. Particularly if you have Windows 9x/ME and NT/2K/XP on
the same LAN - the Win9x/ME and WinNT/2K/XP browsers don't work well together.

Make sure the browser service is running on the WinXP computers. Control Panel
- Administrative Tools - Services. Verify that the Computer Browser, and the
TCP/IP NetBIOS Helper, services both show with Status = Started. Disable the
browser on the Win98 computer:
http://cms.simons-rock.edu/faq_by_subtopic/node138.html

After checking / disabling / enabling as above, power all computers off to reset
the browser settings on each. Then power the Windows XP computers on, and
finally the Windows 98 computer on.

The Microsoft Browstat program will show us what browsers (I'm not talking about
Internet Explorer here) you have in your domain / workgroup, at any time.
http://support.microsoft.com/?id=188305

You can download Browstat from either:
<http://www.dynawell.com/reskit/microsoft/win2000/browstat.zip>
<http://rescomp.stanford.edu/staff/manual/rcc/tools/browstat.zip>

Browstat is very small (40K), and needs no install. Just unzip the downloaded
file, copy browstat.exe to any folder in the Path, and run it from a command
window, by "browstat status". Make sure all computers give the same result.

For more information about the browser subsystem (very intricate), see:
http://support.microsoft.com/?id=188001
http://support.microsoft.com/?id=188305
<http://www.microsoft.com/technet/prodtechnol/winntas/deploy/prodspecs/ntbrowse.mspx>

 

[Guest]

Hey Chuck I got one for ya...
I have a W XP/Home, W2K Pro and W98 connected on a 8 port ethernet switch.
The W2K and W98 can see and access each other and the WXP on the same
WorkGroup but the WXP cant see or access the others. Did a ping test on all
three and got the same result: can ping W2K and W98 IP's but not WXP. WXP
cant even Local Ping. What's up with that ? Thanks in advance.
By the way I'm borrowing this guy's comment to reply (almost similar issue).

 

[Chuck]

Hey Chuck I got one for ya...
I have a W XP/Home, W2K Pro and W98 connected on a 8 port ethernet switch.
The W2K and W98 can see and access each other and the WXP on the same
WorkGroup but the WXP cant see or access the others. Did a ping test on all
three and got the same result: can ping W2K and W98 IP's but not WXP. WXP
cant even Local Ping. What's up with that ? Thanks in advance.
By the way I'm borrowing this guy's comment to reply (almost similar issue).

You're having connectivity issues. Not the same.

It is to everybody's benefit - yours, the OP's, and the helpers here - that you
start a new thread (please give it a descriptive title), and describe your
problem in detail.