can't install exchange - trouble extending schema

[Neil Jarman]

Hi,

I am trying to install Exch 2000 on a W2000AS which was upgraded from
NT4server. The NT4 did not run exchange 5.5, but it had been on the system
elsewhere and is now lost.

Everytime I run Exch setup I get messages about can;t extend the scema.
Error is
0xC1037AE6

I have read all article on the error and have tried to perform the
complicated fixes suggested by MS.

I have come a cropper on the bit where LDIFDE says an attempt to add an
object ... name isalready in use

I have identified the troublesome item as being the secretary and need to
edit the inetorgperson.ldf file to remove all object-creation sections
except this one.

I don't kknow what parts of the file I should remove and what parts to leave
in.

please advise.

Many thanks,

NEIL

 

[jeff miller]

Neil,
Did you try this first?
http://www.msexchange.org/tutorials...efore_Installing__The_path_less_traveled.html

 

[Ace Fekay [MVP]]

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Hi,

I am trying to install Exch 2000 on a W2000AS which was upgraded from
NT4server. The NT4 did not run exchange 5.5, but it had been on the
system elsewhere and is now lost.

Everytime I run Exch setup I get messages about can;t extend the
scema. Error is
0xC1037AE6

I have read all article on the error and have tried to perform the
complicated fixes suggested by MS.

I have come a cropper on the bit where LDIFDE says an attempt to add
an object ... name isalready in use

I have identified the troublesome item as being the secretary and
need to edit the inetorgperson.ldf file to remove all object-creation
sections except this one.

I don't kknow what parts of the file I should remove and what parts
to leave in.

please advise.

Many thanks,

NEIL

Curious, when you upgraded NT4 to Win2000, did you properly name your new
Active Directory domain as "domain.com" or "domain.corp", etc, along those
lines or did you just name it "DOMAIN" from the old domain name?

Did you also set the DNS suffix of the new domain you are upgrading to in
NT4's TCP/IP properties, DNS tab prior to the upgrade?

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[Neil Jarman]

Not first, but after I got the error, I found th KB article about
forestprep - that's what I did next, and that lead me onthe my question.

NEIL

 

[Neil Jarman]

Curious, when you upgraded NT4 to Win2000, did you properly name your new
Active Directory domain as "domain.com" or "domain.corp", etc, along those
lines or did you just name it "DOMAIN" from the old domain name?

Did you also set the DNS suffix of the new domain you are upgrading to in
NT4's TCP/IP properties, DNS tab prior to the upgrade?

I follwed instructions from Server 2000 Administrators Companion (MS PRESS).

I have given the new system a new domain name, xyz.co.uk, and kept the
pre-2000 domain names as it was (which is NOT xyz)

My hand was forced here, because we are running a large software system and
the suppiers of this software inststed that I kept the same domain name.

In your opinion, can I get this fixed so that I can install exchange? I'm
under a lot of pressure here from above!

NEIL

 

[Neil Jarman]

Did you also set the DNS suffix of the new domain you are upgrading to in
NT4's TCP/IP properties, DNS tab prior to the upgrade?

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NO.

I saw no recommendation to do this.

NEIL

 

[Ace Fekay [MVP]]

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NO.

I saw no recommendation to do this.

NEIL

That actually gets translated to the Primary DNS Suffix on a DC. The
Netlogon service uses that name to register into DNS under that zone name.
If its blank or doesn't match the AD domain name, the condition would be
called a 'disjointed namespace'. There's a script you can use to fix that.
Can you post an ipconfig /all? That will show you what the Primary DNS
Suffix is.

Ace

 

[Ace Fekay [MVP]]

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I follwed instructions from Server 2000 Administrators Companion (MS
PRESS).

I have given the new system a new domain name, xyz.co.uk, and kept the
pre-2000 domain names as it was (which is NOT xyz)

My hand was forced here, because we are running a large software
system and the suppiers of this software inststed that I kept the
same domain name.

In your opinion, can I get this fixed so that I can install exchange?
I'm under a lot of pressure here from above!

NEIL

It's ok to keep the original NetBIOS domain name. Yes it will be different,
and maybe confusing, but not relevant with Exchange here. My feeling is that
its DNS and the necessary records don't exist. Do the SRV records exist
under the zone? Are you only using your internal DNS for all your AD
machines (meaning you cannot use an ISP's DNS address other than configured
as a forwarder). I know the books don't usually stipulate that explicitly,
and just imply it, or they just don't stress it.

Ace

 

[Enkidu]

I have given the new system a new domain name, xyz.co.uk, and kept the
pre-2000 domain names as it was (which is NOT xyz)

My hand was forced here, because we are running a large software system and
the suppiers of this software inststed that I kept the same domain name.

I don't know what the exact problem with the Domain Name was. How can
a supplier of a software system insist that you use a particular
Domain Name? No matter, you could, possibly, in your situation have
used *two* DNS Domain Name. You couldn't of course use two AD Domain
Names. But if the problem is only external access, via the Internet,
then two Domain Names would not be a problem. Depending on the exact
setup you have.

Cheers,

Cliff

 

[Ace Fekay [MVP]]

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I don't know what the exact problem with the Domain Name was. How can
a supplier of a software system insist that you use a particular
Domain Name? No matter, you could, possibly, in your situation have
used *two* DNS Domain Name. You couldn't of course use two AD Domain
Names. But if the problem is only external access, via the Internet,
then two Domain Names would not be a problem. Depending on the exact
setup you have.

Cheers,

Cliff

Maybe to avoid a resinstall of their app possibly?

Ace

 

[Neil Jarman]

Windows 2000 IP Configuration

Host Name . . . . . . . . . . . . : lgtsrv6
Primary DNS Suffix . . . . . . . : lgt.co.uk
Node Type . . . . . . . . . . . . : Broadcast
IP Routing Enabled. . . . . . . . : No
WINS Proxy Enabled. . . . . . . . : No
DNS Suffix Search List. . . . . . : lgt.co.uk

Ethernet adapter Local Area Connection:

Connection-specific DNS Suffix . :
Description . . . . . . . . . . . : Intel(R) PRO/100 S Desktop Adapter
Physical Address. . . . . . . . . : 00-02-B3-AB-96-63
DHCP Enabled. . . . . . . . . . . : No
IP Address. . . . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.11.161
Subnet Mask . . . . . . . . . . . : 255.255.255.192
Default Gateway . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.11.166
DNS Servers . . . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.11.161

Hi,

Where do I go now? Getting some heavy pressure from above, and need to say
what will be happening next.

I appreciate your interest, and hope that you will be able to come up with a
solution!

Best wishes,

NEIL


"Ace Fekay [MVP]"

 

[Ace Fekay [MVP]]

In

Windows 2000 IP Configuration

Host Name . . . . . . . . . . . . : lgtsrv6
Primary DNS Suffix . . . . . . . : lgt.co.uk
Node Type . . . . . . . . . . . . : Broadcast
IP Routing Enabled. . . . . . . . : No
WINS Proxy Enabled. . . . . . . . : No
DNS Suffix Search List. . . . . . : lgt.co.uk

Ethernet adapter Local Area Connection:

Connection-specific DNS Suffix . :
Description . . . . . . . . . . . : Intel(R) PRO/100 S Desktop Adapter
Physical Address. . . . . . . . . : 00-02-B3-AB-96-63
DHCP Enabled. . . . . . . . . . . : No
IP Address. . . . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.11.161
Subnet Mask . . . . . . . . . . . : 255.255.255.192
Default Gateway . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.11.166
DNS Servers . . . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.11.161

Hi,

Where do I go now? Getting some heavy pressure from above, and need
to say what will be happening next.

I appreciate your interest, and hope that you will be able to come up
with a solution!

Best wishes,

NEIL

Thanks for posting that Neil.

It seems as long as lgt.co.uk is your AD name, and the zone exists on
192.168.11.161 with updates set to allow and the zone has the necessary SRV
records, then that part should be ok. I just wanted to make sure your config
was ok.

As for the Inetorgperson attribute, did you download the kit from Microsoft
site to add it? Also, see if these help. One of them has your specific
error:

Forestprep Switch Produces Error 0XC1037AE6:
http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;en-us;328661

307998 - Changing the Naming Attribute of the InetOrgPerson Class:
http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;en-us;307998

311555 - How to Hide or Display the InetOrgPerson Object Class in Active
Directory Users and Computers:
http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;en-us;311555

326310 - How To Manage the Active Directory Schema in Windows Server 2003
Enterprise Edition:
http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;en-us;326310

822591 - InetOrgPerson Object Support in Exchange 2003:
http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;en-us;822591

forestprep Command Causes Mangled Attributes in Windows 2000 Forests That
Contain Exchange 2000 Servers:
http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;en-us;314649




Ace

 

[Neil Jarman]

Ace:

Yes I got the kit. The problem is this:

I have come a cropper on the bit where LDIFDE says an attempt to add an
object ... name isalready in use

I have identified the troublesome item as being the secretary and need to
edit the inetorgperson.ldf file to remove all object-creation sections
except this one.

I don't kknow what parts of the file I should remove and what parts to leave
in.


I can't actually understand this part and need help with editing the ldf
file.

Many THanks,

NEIL

 

[Ace Fekay [MVP]]

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Ace:

Yes I got the kit. The problem is this:

I have come a cropper on the bit where LDIFDE says an attempt to add
an object ... name isalready in use

I have identified the troublesome item as being the secretary and
need to edit the inetorgperson.ldf file to remove all object-creation
sections except this one.

I don't kknow what parts of the file I should remove and what parts
to leave in.


I can't actually understand this part and need help with editing the
ldf file.

Many THanks,

NEIL

I understand your question, but I do not have an exact answer. I found those
links hoping they would help you understand what you're trying to change in
regards to the secretary attribute. The one link I provided has the same
exact error you posted in your original post. I thought that would
especially help you out as well. If you are just trying to alter the LDF
file in order to import the changes, then see this link below, but you would
need to know the specific attribute you want to modify.

237677 - Using LDIFDE to Import and Export Directory Objects to Active
Directory:
http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?kbid=237677



Ace