Canon iP4000 Waste ink resetter.

[Tony]

Just a note, when the page opens up for the manual part one, look at the
'multipart' line, the little '1' is a link to part 2 of the manual, not
very clear I know!

Could anyone tell me please if the info for the ip4000 also applies to
the ip5000?

Many thanks

Mary

Ah - got it

Tony

 

[George E. Cawthon]

Just a note, when the page opens up for the manual part one, look at the
'multipart' line, the little '1' is a link to part 2 of the manual, not
very clear I know!

Could anyone tell me please if the info for the ip4000 also applies to
the ip5000?

Many thanks

Mary

Thanks Mary,

Don't know how one person can be so stupid.
I tried to look at it again (on my desktop) and
couldn't find a "1" still just said "corrupt
file." So I deleted everything, even the trash
can and went to the download site. Looked for a
"1," finally found it, and you can't believe how
stupid I felt. I hadn't even noticed the
"multipart" on the description of the file.

Anyway, thanks again, all is well because of your
help and I will be able to fix the problem when it
occurs (will be sometime as my printer is only 1
month old).

 

[John B]

Is there any way of getting a page count through the menu system of the ip4000?
I could not find one in the .rar manual. My old Canon BJC600 used to when doing
one of the test prints.

Thanks,

John B

 

[drc023]

Look at the 09/17/05 reply by Tony to the thread "Canon iP4000 service
manual" . The message contains the exact information needed not only on how
to reset the waste ink counter, but also how to print a status information
page. Page counts (total and broken down by paper type) are included. This
information is also in the .rar manual on pages 1-15 and 1-16 a description
of all the fields is available on pages 1-17 to 1-19.

 

[John B]

I've managed to get an EEPROM info print, but cannot now get the machine out of
service mode. Every time I send something to print, it reports it is offline!
How do I reset it to normal please? I need to do some more printing! HELP! I
have tried lots of options but without success.

John B.

 

[Matt Zukowski]

I've managed to get an EEPROM info print, but cannot now get the machine out of
service mode. Every time I send something to print, it reports it is offline!
How do I reset it to normal please? I need to do some more printing! HELP! I
have tried lots of options but without success.

John B.

Press power to exit out of service mode and resume normal operation.

 

[George E. Cawthon]

You can set almost anything electronic back to
zero (or start up) by turning it off and pulling
the plug or removing the batteries. In other
words, kill the brain for a rebirth. But you have
to pull the plug because most stuff, including
your printer, are not really off when you use the
switch to turn it off.

 

[Bob Headrick]

You can set almost anything electronic back to zero (or start up) by turning
it off and pulling the plug or removing the batteries.

Except for information stored in Non Volatile Memory (NVM). Information such
as the waste ink level would be stored in NVM and not subject to "forgetting"
in case of a power failure.

Regards,
Bob Headrick

 

[Mikey]

The waste reset is on PAGE 20, Part 4 of the service manul you downloaded.


Mike

 

[measekite]

You can set almost anything electronic back to zero (or start up) by
turning it off and pulling the plug or removing the batteries. In
other words, kill the brain for a rebirth.

NOT IF IT WRITE TO AN EPROM. WHAT DO YOU KNOW ANYWAY.

 

[George E. Cawthon]

Except for information stored in Non Volatile Memory (NVM). Information such
as the waste ink level would be stored in NVM and not subject to "forgetting"
in case of a power failure.

Regards,
Bob Headrick

True, I was simplifying a bit (maybe too much).
His problem was not getting rid of actual stored
data but getting out of a (or specifically the
position in a program). It is not likely that the
steps in a program are going to be recorded in
NVM. Kill the brain should be a first attempt and
works in most or many cases where you get into a
situation by punching buttons that you just can't
seem to get out of. But even some stuff that may
appear to be in non volatile memory requires an
energy source such as a capacitor, so removing a
battery for a period may get rid of it.

 

[zakezuke]

not if it write to an eprom. what do you know anyway

I think perhaps it might be better if you use the term NVM (non
volitile memory). When you get specific and say "e-prom" you apear
foolish. You see you can really write to an e-prom, not without
shoving it under a UV light erasing it's contents and re-writing to it.
This isn't practical, not in a printer. What you mean is an ee-prom
(double e prom) or flash-rom, and even that might not be correct as
there is also NV-ram which is basicly ram with a battery piggybacked on
it. These are handy as you can easily pop out the chip and place it
elsewhere and the values remain the same and isn't limited to a certain
number of writes. And you also have ordinary battery backed up ram
which in IBM PC clone terms is called the CMOS battery (Complex
Metal-Oxide Semiconductor) which is such an odd term to use for basicly
ram. But it was a new idea to have these values in ram. It's an
understandable mistake for those not experenced with electronics. NVM
(non volitile memory) is a good term to use when you don't happen to
know specificly what the device is using, which there is no shame in
that as I never took the time to disassemble my printer and look at the
sprnt board and evaluate what form of NVM it uses.

I hope in the future when you harass someone it's helpful to actually
know the terminology so you don't appear foolish when making someone
else loook foolish. I know I can change the parameters on the fly and
it doesn't take a hour to set into NVM so there is no chance in hell
it's an E-prom.

 

[George E. Cawthon]

I think perhaps it might be better if you use the term NVM (non
volitile memory). When you get specific and say "e-prom" you apear
foolish. You see you can really write to an e-prom, not without
shoving it under a UV light erasing it's contents and re-writing to it.
This isn't practical, not in a printer. What you mean is an ee-prom
(double e prom) or flash-rom, and even that might not be correct as
there is also NV-ram which is basicly ram with a battery piggybacked on
it. These are handy as you can easily pop out the chip and place it
elsewhere and the values remain the same and isn't limited to a certain
number of writes. And you also have ordinary battery backed up ram
which in IBM PC clone terms is called the CMOS battery (Complex
Metal-Oxide Semiconductor) which is such an odd term to use for basicly
ram. But it was a new idea to have these values in ram. It's an
understandable mistake for those not experenced with electronics. NVM
(non volitile memory) is a good term to use when you don't happen to
know specificly what the device is using, which there is no shame in
that as I never took the time to disassemble my printer and look at the
sprnt board and evaluate what form of NVM it uses.

I hope in the future when you harass someone it's helpful to actually
know the terminology so you don't appear foolish when making someone
else loook foolish. I know I can change the parameters on the fly and
it doesn't take a hour to set into NVM so there is no chance in hell
it's an E-prom.

I hope you didn't mean what you said in the last
paragraph.
That is, "... so you don't appear foolish when
making someone else look foolish." I think that
he seldom makes anyone else look foolish, I
certainly don't think he made me look foolish.
But then, I don't normally read anything that he
says. In fact, I don't understand why anyone does
or responds to him.

 

[zakezuke]

I hope you didn't mean what you said in the last

paragraph.

I ment he was trying to make you apear foolish but failed. Your
statement about removing the batteries to clear the memory. Valid
enough except in cases where the battery is hidden or the printer is
using something that doesn't require a battery.

In fact, I don't understand why anyone does
or responds to him.

Perhaps because much of his information is wrong... dead wrong, and it
might be helpful to other users who don't have experence to see
someone's misconceptions corrected.

 

[ngreplies]

I for one have never seen a battery in a printer other than for a portable
printer.

 

[zakezuke]

I for one have never seen a battery in a printer other than for a portable

printer

I have to admit, I've not actually "seen" a battery in a printer. But
given the fact that the average PC still uses battery backed up bios
settings, it's clearly not impossible. I know in the old days NVRAM
was used in some printers which was basicly a ram chip backed up by a
battery which was picky backed on the chip and encased in plastic and
glued on with epoxy. Eventually after years, or decades these
batteries would fail. The reccomended solution was to buy a new NVRAM
chip which were typicaly in the $20 range the last time I looked.
Alternativly one could scrap away the epoxy and get at the wires
between the piggy back, cut them and solder on a new battery pack. In
a pinch one could if they were careful short out the battery to clear
the memory. You would only do this on systems that absolutely had to
be back online as soon as possible and you couldn't wait for a
replacement.

I don't know what canon is using. I suspect it's a EEPROM.. probally
because that's what the service manual says.

 

[measekite]

AND WHAT HAPPENED TO MATT ZOKOWSKI OTHER THAN BEING EXPOSED TO A ZOOKEY
DOOKEY. BOY YOU JUST WRITE SO MUCH SHIT. DON;T YOU EVER JERK OFF.

 

[George E. Cawthon]

Whoa! I think somebody fell off the back of the
boat and thought he was on the bow. I've never
seen a battery in a printer either. So? Nobody
said anything about a battery in a printer, if you
were referring to my statement. It was a general
electronics statement and someone should have
notice the "or."

 

[George E. Cawthon]

I have to admit, I've not actually "seen" a battery in a printer. But
given the fact that the average PC still uses battery backed up bios
settings, it's clearly not impossible. I know in the old days NVRAM
was used in some printers which was basicly a ram chip backed up by a
battery which was picky backed on the chip and encased in plastic and
glued on with epoxy. Eventually after years, or decades these
batteries would fail. The reccomended solution was to buy a new NVRAM
chip which were typicaly in the $20 range the last time I looked.
Alternativly one could scrap away the epoxy and get at the wires
between the piggy back, cut them and solder on a new battery pack. In
a pinch one could if they were careful short out the battery to clear
the memory. You would only do this on systems that absolutely had to
be back online as soon as possible and you couldn't wait for a
replacement.

I don't know what canon is using. I suspect it's a EEPROM.. probally
because that's what the service manual says.

All this about a battery in a printer? It was a
general statement about electronic gadgets which
includes computers, cameras, phones, recorders,
GPS, etc. Need I continue? It is still a valid
point. When the damn thing misbehaves and you
can't get out of a loop, turn the thing off and
pull the plug (if it has one) and pull the battery
(if it has one).