Canon iP4000 / 4200 / 5000 / 5200 USB and printing speed

[Martin Trautmann]

Hi all,

I just collected some specs and comparisons for printing speed and
wanted to share those results:


Spec: iP4000 iP5000 iP4200 iP5200

Resolution................................
black 600 600 600 600
color 1200 2400 2400 2400
(dpi)

Nozzles...................................
text-Bk: 320 320 320 512
Yellow: 256 256 256 512
Magenta: 512 512 512 1024
Cyan: 512 512 512 1024
Black: 256 256 256 512

Speed.....................................
text 2.4 2.4 2.1 2.0
color 3.5 3.5 3.0 2.5
(s/page)
photo 36 36 51 36
(s/4x6")

Speedtest.................................
text 4.3 3.8 4.1 3.2
photo A4 164 237 207 112

USB: USB USB USB2.0 USB2.0



Speedtest results are from www.druckerchannel.de. Numbers are
seconds per page (s/page),
seconds per 4x6" photo (s/4x6") and
seconds for full page A4 (slightly more than letter: 8x11.8")


The specs for iP4200 / iP5200 claim "Standard Interface: USB 2.0
Hi-Speed". However, this has no significant influence on speed. USB2.0
could be 40 times as fast as USB1.1 (High Speed: 480 Mbps, Full Speed:
12 Mbps). But USB is not the limiting factor here.

 

[measekite]

Hi all,

I just collected some specs and comparisons for printing speed and
wanted to share those results:


Spec: iP4000 iP5000 iP4200 iP5200

Resolution................................
black 600 600 600 600
color 1200 2400 2400 2400
(dpi)

Nozzles...................................
text-Bk: 320 320 320 512
Yellow: 256 256 256 512
Magenta: 512 512 512 1024
Cyan: 512 512 512 1024
Black: 256 256 256 512

Speed.....................................
text 2.4 2.4 2.1 2.0
color 3.5 3.5 3.0 2.5
(s/page)
photo 36 36 51 36
(s/4x6")

Speedtest.................................
text 4.3 3.8 4.1 3.2
photo A4 164 237 207 112

USB: USB USB USB2.0 USB2.0



Speedtest results are from www.druckerchannel.de. Numbers are
seconds per page (s/page),
seconds per 4x6" photo (s/4x6") and
seconds for full page A4 (slightly more than letter: 8x11.8")

THIS INFO IS NOT THE SAME AS CANONUSA SPEFIICATIONS.

 

[Frank]

Hi all,

I just collected some specs and comparisons for printing speed and
wanted to share those results:


Spec: iP4000 iP5000 iP4200 iP5200

Resolution................................
black 600 600 600 600
color 1200 2400 2400 2400
(dpi)

Nozzles...................................
text-Bk: 320 320 320 512
Yellow: 256 256 256 512
Magenta: 512 512 512 1024
Cyan: 512 512 512 1024
Black: 256 256 256 512

Speed.....................................
text 2.4 2.4 2.1 2.0
color 3.5 3.5 3.0 2.5
(s/page)
photo 36 36 51 36
(s/4x6")

Speedtest.................................
text 4.3 3.8 4.1 3.2
photo A4 164 237 207 112

USB: USB USB USB2.0 USB2.0



Speedtest results are from www.druckerchannel.de. Numbers are
seconds per page (s/page),
seconds per 4x6" photo (s/4x6") and
seconds for full page A4 (slightly more than letter: 8x11.8")


The specs for iP4200 / iP5200 claim "Standard Interface: USB 2.0
Hi-Speed". However, this has no significant influence on speed. USB2.0
could be 40 times as fast as USB1.1 (High Speed: 480 Mbps, Full Speed:
12 Mbps). But USB is not the limiting factor here.

Good, real user, real world info. Not like the bullshit lying numbers
put out by the oem's.
Thanks.
Frank

 

[Ron Shaw]

<snip>


THIS INFO IS NOT THE SAME AS CANONUSA SPEFIICATIONS.

Not the first time Canon has misled you, inkystink!

 

[SleeperMan]

Hi all,

I just collected some specs and comparisons for printing speed and
wanted to share those results:


Spec: iP4000 iP5000 iP4200 iP5200

Resolution................................
black 600 600 600 600
color 1200 2400 2400 2400
(dpi)

Nozzles...................................
text-Bk: 320 320 320 512
Yellow: 256 256 256 512
Magenta: 512 512 512 1024
Cyan: 512 512 512 1024
Black: 256 256 256 512

Speed.....................................
text 2.4 2.4 2.1 2.0
color 3.5 3.5 3.0 2.5
(s/page)
photo 36 36 51 36
(s/4x6")

Speedtest.................................
text 4.3 3.8 4.1 3.2
photo A4 164 237 207 112

USB: USB USB USB2.0 USB2.0



Speedtest results are from www.druckerchannel.de. Numbers are
seconds per page (s/page),
seconds per 4x6" photo (s/4x6") and
seconds for full page A4 (slightly more than letter: 8x11.8")


The specs for iP4200 / iP5200 claim "Standard Interface: USB 2.0
Hi-Speed". However, this has no significant influence on speed. USB2.0
could be 40 times as fast as USB1.1 (High Speed: 480 Mbps, Full Speed:
12 Mbps). But USB is not the limiting factor here.

is that 2.4 seconds for one text page? i find this strong bullshit...unless
text was only one or two lines... in 2.4 seconds even blank page won't come
out...

 

[P-P. Henneken]

is that 2.4 seconds for one text page? i find this strong
bullshit...unless text was only one or two lines... in 2.4 seconds even
blank page won't come out...

That would probably be 2.4 pages per *minute*...

;-)

P-P.

 

[Martin Trautmann]

is that 2.4 seconds for one text page? i find this strong bullshit...unless
text was only one or two lines... in 2.4 seconds even blank page won't come
out...

Yes, it is. It's the fastest possible output which Canon claims.

You won't get this from pressing the print button until the page will be
ejected. Typically, it's the average time when you print dozens of
pages, e.g. as time of page 10 before 11.

The real world speed tests still show numbers that you won't believe,
too. Those tests where done with the fastest, possible print option.
Probably that's draft quality only.

There's a German standard letter which is coyrighted. Therefore the
testers use a comparalble letter with a similiar formatting and amount
of text:
http://www.druckerchannel.de/testdateien/dc_gilbert.rtf

Times for real office letters where significantly
higher. There sample letter is
http://www.druckerchannel.de/testdateien/dc_business_10seiten.doc

Yet another doc with 5% page coverage is
http://www.druckerchannel.de/testdateien/dc_leerdruck_5p.pdf
.... it's used in order to measure how many pages can be printed.


Check the other docs on http://www.druckerchannel.de/artikel.php?ID=34
- A4 foto: natural color tones
- grapic: color quality and range



Martin

 

[Martin Trautmann]

That would probably be 2.4 pages per *minute*...

No - I wrote down explicitly that those numbers are seconds per page.
The spec numbers are e.g. 29 ppm (iP4200) (which is 2.0689 seconds per
page), 25 ppm (ip4000), ...

.... check it out yourself.

 

[Stan Birch]

On 20 Jan 2006 16:25:20 GMT, Martin Trautmann <[email protected]> wrote:

No - I wrote down explicitly that those numbers are seconds per page.
The spec numbers are e.g. 29 ppm (iP4200) (which is 2.0689 seconds per
page), 25 ppm (ip4000), ...

Yeh; a couple seconds sounds about right. A page of text comes out of
my IP4200 at about the speed you might expect from a simple blank-page
form-feed.

 

[SleeperMan]

Yes, it is. It's the fastest possible output which Canon claims.

You won't get this from pressing the print button until the page will
be ejected. Typically, it's the average time when you print dozens of
pages, e.g. as time of page 10 before 11.

The real world speed tests still show numbers that you won't believe,
too. Those tests where done with the fastest, possible print option.
Probably that's draft quality only.

There's a German standard letter which is coyrighted. Therefore the
testers use a comparalble letter with a similiar formatting and amount
of text:
http://www.druckerchannel.de/testdateien/dc_gilbert.rtf

Times for real office letters where significantly
higher. There sample letter is
http://www.druckerchannel.de/testdateien/dc_business_10seiten.doc

Yet another doc with 5% page coverage is
http://www.druckerchannel.de/testdateien/dc_leerdruck_5p.pdf
... it's used in order to measure how many pages can be printed.


Check the other docs on http://www.druckerchannel.de/artikel.php?ID=34
- A4 foto: natural color tones
- grapic: color quality and range



Martin

True. Canon claims this speed. I bet it's calculated as top posts say...max
20 ppm means from blank page (means 2 secs) forward. Just time travel time
of one blank sheet through printer...it's appr. 2,4 seconds.
Don't get me wrong...Canon IS among fastest printers available...it can
print highest quality photo amazingly fast, but as sure as hell can't print
a whole text page in a couple of seconds.

 

[Yianni]

In which resolution/quality speedtest is it printed? I suppose in "Normal"
quality, am I right?
Secondly, does anyone know the "original" 5% test page's dimensions? Is it a
A4, 8.5x11 inches, or something else?

 

[Martin Trautmann]

In which resolution/quality speedtest is it printed? I suppose in "Normal"
quality, am I right?

fastest speed should be 'draft' (on Mac: Quality: Detailed Setting:
Print Quality: Fast, no grayscale)

Secondly, does anyone know the "original" 5% test page's dimensions? Is it a
A4, 8.5x11 inches, or something else?

I guess, it's A4 in Europe and Letter in USA. However, I've never seen a
difference in capacity of printed pages for different countries.

 

[zakezuke]

I guess, it's A4 in Europe and Letter in USA. However, I've never seen a

difference in capacity of printed pages for different countries.

It's safe to assume A4... as it is druckerchannel. The sizes are so
similar that i'm sure the difference is so slight. 210 mm × 297 mm =
a4 where letter is 215.9x 279.4.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/A4_paper_size

Anyhow the Canon tests for speed are based on either the 1,500
character pattern, plain paper / standard mode and the ISO JIS-SCID No.
5 (big wheel bike and misc stuff). the 1,500 character pattern I would
assume is courier 10cpi, that old style dot matrix font that might
still be in the printer's firmware.

 

[Yianni]

Has anyone the ISO JIS-SCID No.5 and the ISO 5% test pages?

It's safe to assume A4... as it is druckerchannel. The sizes are
so similar that i'm sure the difference is so slight. 210 mm ×
297 mm = a4 where letter is 215.9x 279.4.

I asked because the previous given page with 5% coverage, when it assumed A4
or 8.5x11, has a real coverage about 4.8%.

 

[P-P. Henneken]

No - I wrote down explicitly that those numbers are seconds per page.
The spec numbers are e.g. 29 ppm (iP4200) (which is 2.0689 seconds per
page), 25 ppm (ip4000), ...

... check it out yourself.

I do HAVE the Canon IP4000 but it sure can't output at that rate. That is:
with any (reasonable) form of printed text on it. That is utterly
impossible. This in my opinion is a b.s. type of test. If anybody can print
a real-world paper in 2.4 seconds on an IP4000 please let me know. The
printer IS fast, much much faster than my previous Epson but these numbers
are bogus (that is: I expect the manufacturer to come up with something like
this, not a test site).

P-P.

 

[Martin Trautmann]

I do HAVE the Canon IP4000 but it sure can't output at that rate.

You may try the speed test yourself, too. However, you doubted that the
specs claim 2.4 seconds per page. You might check those specs on one of
Canon's spec sites.

Real speedtests where named, too. I guess that you don't accept 4.3
either - since this is not the way you print (draft quality).

That is:
with any (reasonable) form of printed text on it. That is utterly
impossible. This in my opinion is a b.s. type of test. If anybody can print
a real-world paper in 2.4 seconds on an IP4000 please let me know. The
printer IS fast, much much faster than my previous Epson but these numbers
are bogus (that is: I expect the manufacturer to come up with something like
this, not a test site).

Personally, I would not risk to bet against those numbers. A very basic
driver, a very simple document, using built-in fonts and lowest quality,
the printer may be almost as fast as form feeding empty pages. Keep in
mind that this is the time between two pages, not the time from 'print'
button until the first page is ejected.

- Martin