Canon Inks iP4000

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Bill

Obviously a post from someone without any first-hand knowledge.
I just did a drop of water on the two prints I have taning in the
sun... and I whiped it off with my finger. No discoloration.

Exactly.

The Canon paper with Canon OEM or even Canon-specific third party ink,
is surprisingly water resistant.
The HP
print on canon photo paper plus on the other hand did discolor,

I'm not surprised by that...the paper and ink formulations are different
and not intended to work together.

Canon paper is nanoporous, while HP paper is swellable.
 
C

colinco

I thought it was pretty clear, but apparently not since the subject line
does not currently reflect the model being discussed, nor does your
question refer to the specific situation being discussed.

On almost anything but photo paper, the Canon iP3000 model uses CMY
mixed for black.

On plain paper, the iP3000 uses either pigment black or CMY, but not
both for the same document.

With photos, the iP3000 printer will lay down black pigment ink for 80%
or darker black AS WELL AS using the CMY colours at the same time.
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You previously mentioned that the print engine from the entire i series
had this behaviour. The reason I am questioning this is because my
i865/WinXP does use BOTH dye and pigment in the same document on plain
paper as required. This contradicts your findings. Is it OS or driver
related?
 
Z

zakezuke

Obviously a post from someone without any first-hand knowledge.

Well, the gent is probally using kirkland photopaper, which I don't
happen to have anything dry and handy to test. I have to say this is
the first time i've seen a solid reason why one should buy the canon
photo paper plus.
 
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measekite

zakezuke said:
I just did a drop of water on the two prints I have taning in the
sun... and I whiped it off with my finger. No discoloration. The HP
print on canon photo paper plus on the other hand did discolor, both
been on the sill for an equal amount of time (30Jun). The epson print
I have on "epson photo paper" also discolored, but it's not been
tanning at all.

I GUESS YOU CANNOT SEE.
 
M

measekite

Bill said:
colinco wrote:




I thought it was pretty clear, but apparently not since the subject line
does not currently reflect the model being discussed, nor does your
question refer to the specific situation being discussed.

On almost anything but photo paper, the Canon iP3000 model uses CMY
mixed for black.

IT IS THE REVERSE : ON ANYTHING PUT PLAIN PAPER THE COLORS MIX THE
BLACK. THAT IS WHY THYE IP4000 (HAS AN EXTRA DYE BLACK) PRODUCES BETTER
PHOTOS
On plain paper, the iP3000 uses either pigment black or CMY, but not
both for the same document.
ONLY PIGMENT BLACK. I THINK YOU NEED TO TALK TO CANON OR READ THE
MANUAL. WITH THE MENTALITY OF SOME OF THE NG READERS AS LOW AS IT IS
YOU NEED TO BE ACCURATE.
With photos, the iP3000 printer will lay down black pigment ink for 80%
or darker black AS WELL AS using the CMY colours at the same time.
TOTALLY INCORRECT
 
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zakezuke

I guess you cannot see

I see perfectly well. You see I had two prints I used for contrast,
same paper, different ink. The light was bright sun, and the results
were painfully clear on the HP ink on Canon Photopaper Plus, and not
observable. I must conclude that the statement that canon inks on the
canon photo paper plus is reasonably water resistant. I just poured
some tapwater onto the same print and wiped with a hand towel. I did
scratch the print but the ink stayed.

I would sugest rather than being critical of my observation to observe
your self. When I'm less lazy i'll try this on the Kirkland paper.
 

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