Cannot send mail - Helo command rejected error

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Guest

When I try to send email in Outlook 2000, I get this message:

"The message could not be sent because one of the recipients was
rejected by the server. Server Response: '504<yourxhtr8hvc4p>:Helo
command rejected: need fully-qualified hostname'.
(Account: 'pop.kent.edu', SMTP Server: 'smtp.kent.edu', Error Number
0x800ccc79)"

I have the right smtp server for outgoing mail, and the system admin of that
server says it's not a server problem. Help please!
 
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Ben M. Schorr - MVP OneNote

vesperholly said:
When I try to send email in Outlook 2000, I get this message:

"The message could not be sent because one of the recipients was
rejected by the server. Server Response: '504<yourxhtr8hvc4p>:Helo
command rejected: need fully-qualified hostname'.
(Account: 'pop.kent.edu', SMTP Server: 'smtp.kent.edu', Error Number
0x800ccc79)"

I have the right smtp server for outgoing mail, and the system admin of
that
server says it's not a server problem. Help please!

Sounds like you may not have a complete e-mail address for one of your
recipients. i.e (e-mail address removed) or whatever. Double-check the e-mail
address(es) you sent to.


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Aloha,

-Ben-
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Microsoft OneNote FAQ:
http://home.hawaii.rr.com/schorr/computers/onenotefaq.htm

**I apologize but I am unable to respond to direct requests for assistance.
Please post questions and replies here in the newsgroup. Mahalo!
 
G

Guest

Hi, thanks but the email is 100% correct. I've checked it again and again. I
am trying to send a test mail to my account, and a test email to another
account of mine. Could this error be coming from some kind of hidden
firewall? I disabled the Windows XP one, but in a file sharing program I
have, I am behind a firewall still. I have Norton AntiVirus but I am not
aware if it has a firewall. Thanks!
 
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Jeff Stephenson [MSFT]

You're going to need to talk to your mail provider about the best way to
resolve this. What's happening is that when Outlook connects to your mail
provider's server it sends your computer name, say "mycomputer", but the
server requires that the name be a "fully qualified hostname" - something
like "mycomputer.kent.edu".

You could try just changing your computer name to something like the latter
form, but it may well be that the server will try and look up the address
for that name, not find it (or find it but with a different address) and
continue to reject your connection. If that's the case, you'll need to
talk to your provider to figure out what you need to do.
 
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Brian Tillman

Jeff Stephenson said:
You could try just changing your computer name to something like the
latter form, but it may well be that the server will try and look up
the address for that name, not find it (or find it but with a
different address) and continue to reject your connection. If that's
the case, you'll need to talk to your provider to figure out what you
need to do.

The better way is to configure the TCP/IP connection to supply the domain.
Right-click My Network Places and choose Properties. Right-click the
network interface providing the link to yoru ISP and choose Properties.
Select Internet Protocol (TCP/IP) and click Properties. Click Advanced,
then the DNS tab. At the bottom, include the ISP's domain (kent.edu, for
example, as you stated) in the "DNS suffix for this connection" box.
 
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Guest

Thanks for your help, but I really don't think it's an ISP or server problem.
Two days ago I could download mail just fine. The only thing that's changed
since then is I had to do a System Restore which wiped my settings. I had to
go back and manually take down the Norton firewall and WinXP firewall,
reinstall programs, etc. Some kind of default has been turned on, that used
to be off, that now won't let my SMTP connect but I can't figure out what it
is.

I think the key lies in HELO command and fully-qualified host name. I tried
changing it to my name, and then to my ISP's domain name (not kent.edu but
xyz.net), and STILL no go! Any more ideas?
 
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Brian Tillman

vesperholly said:
Two days ago I could download mail just fine. The only thing
that's changed since then is I had to do a System Restore which wiped
my settings. I had to go back and manually take down the Norton
firewall and WinXP firewall, reinstall programs, etc.

You're running two firewalls simultaneously? Unnecessary. Choose one and
run it. Frankly, with how many problems have been reported with Norton
products on Windows XP SP2, I'd choose the Windows firewall or one of the
(excellent) freeware firewalls before choosing Norton. I'd also make sure
the Norton antivirus was uninstalled completely and then reinstalled without
the mail scanning feature. This, too, has caused more headaches for more
people.
 
G

Guest

From what I've been able to find out, both Outlook and Outlook Express use
the NETBIOS name for the helo command. I have several users who would like to
use OE or Outlook to send mail through our server, but policy dictates that
the helo command contains the fqdn.

I've been digging around on Google for a week and haven't found anything
close to the solution. Is there a registry setting we can do that tells
Outlook and OE to use the Internet settings instead of NETBIOS?

By the way, non Microsoft email clients work fine for our other users so
it's not a configuration issue on the server side. The mail logs show that
the helo command only contains the netbios name. Here's an example:

May 12 13:59:37 www postfix/smtpd[2648]: NOQUEUE: reject: RCPT from
wsip-x.x.x.cox.net[x.x.x.x]: 504 <SP6100GORMAN>: Helo command rejected: need
fully-qualified hostname; from=<[email protected]> to=<[email protected]>
proto=ESMTP helo=<SP6100GORMAN>

The actual host name of that PC is SP6100-GORMAN so it even pulls the dash
out.

Greg
 
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Just a note to say I followed Brian Tillman's

suggestion to modify the TCP/IP connection.
Not sure why it works, but it does! My IP
says to leave this area blank.

I also noted that on the home page for this
forum there is a reference to the problem
and to use RegCure to solve it. I am using
RegCure, but did not notice this until I
logged on to write this note. I am curious
now, but will not try it now that I have things
working!

This is puzzling in that why did it pop up
after 8 months of use? And of course,
everyone points the finger at the other guy!
I talked with my ISP rep who had worked for
other ISPs who offered the solution to problems
like this. However, my ISP provides limited
support to OE, and not helping their customers
with this problem has ticked numerous people
off. The rep stated the solution was very simple
and could be provided in seconds, but he couldn't
because of policy! I am thinking about makiing
a change!

williebuilt72
 

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