Cannot see other PC on wired/wireless net

[JD]

There was a recent posting and reply that was very helpful to Mike
Parmley and, since my problem is extremely similar, I'm hoping someone
can spare a moment and help me too. Essentially
I have the same problem but with a bit of a twist - I have a wireless
cable modem/router (Linksys WCG200) and right now the "Cable" part is
not working - a known problem with COMCAST, I'm afraid. In the meantime,
I'm simply trying to get a network working. and it partly is. I have
one PC connected to the Linksys via Ethernet and the other via the
wireless route. Both PCs can see the router/modem. In fact, if I leave
off the dial-up internet connection, I can run the browser based utility
program in the Linksys from either machine. BUT, each machine can only
see itself when I look at network connections, just like Mike. I've
tried the submask settings and they don't help -- also have the router's
encryption capability turned off. The firewalls (all) are OFF. One
other possible difference is that my PCs are running XP Home edition,
which I assume doesn't matter (but the user IDs are slightly different,
if it does).

The IP addresses are:
PC 1 192.168.0.10
PC 2 192.168.0.99
Router 192.168.0.1

Subnet masks on the PCs are 255.255.255.0

Each PC can successfully ping the other!

Any help would be appreciated.

Dave

 

[bobb]

and right now the "Cable" part is
not working - a known problem with COMCAST, I'm afraid.

By "not working" do u mean machine can't get to the Internet nor talk
to the other machines and/or both?

Great for the IP addresses, but more please.

Are the DNS and Gateway entries same for working-machine and
non-working-machine?

 

[JD]

BY "not working" I mean that its totally not connected to COMCASTS
internet facility - they have scheduled a service to connect us to
their lines closer to our house than at present.

The wirelessly connected machines ipconfig reports:

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Windows IP Configuration
Host Name . . . . . . . . . . . . : MillerMaster
Primary Dns Suffix . . . . . . . :
Node Type . . . . . . . . . . . . : Hybrid
IP Routing Enabled. . . . . . . . : No
WINS Proxy Enabled. . . . . . . . : No
DNS Suffix Search List. . . . . . : MSHOME

Ethernet adapter Local Area Connection 2:
Media State . . . . . . . . . . . : Media disconnected
Description . . . . . . . . . . . : Intel(R) PRO/100 VM Network
Connection
Physical Address. . . . . . . . . : 00-0B-CD-E0-66-75

PPP adapter Earthlink GB:
Connection-specific DNS Suffix . :
Description . . . . . . . . . . . : WAN (PPP/SLIP) Interface
Physical Address. . . . . . . . . : 00-53-45-00-00-00
Dhcp Enabled. . . . . . . . . . . : No
IP Address. . . . . . . . . . . . : 165.247.87.180
Subnet Mask . . . . . . . . . . . : 255.255.255.255
Default Gateway . . . . . . . . . : 165.247.87.180
DNS Servers . . . . . . . . . . . : 207.69.188.187
207.69.188.186
NetBIOS over Tcpip. . . . . . . . : Disabled

Ethernet adapter Wireless Network Connection 2:
Connection-specific DNS Suffix . : MSHOME
Description . . . . . . . . . . . : Belkin 802.11g Wireless Card
Physical Address. . . . . . . . . : 00-11-50-63-11-5F
Dhcp Enabled. . . . . . . . . . . : Yes
Autoconfiguration Enabled . . . . : Yes
IP Address. . . . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.0.99
Subnet Mask . . . . . . . . . . . : 255.255.255.0
Default Gateway . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.0.1
DHCP Server . . . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.0.1
DNS Servers . . . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.0.1
Lease Obtained. . . . . . . . . . : Tuesday, June 28, 2005
3:56:50 PM
Lease Expires . . . . . . . . . . : Tuesday, June 28, 2005
3:57:10 PM
==========================================================
The other one, connected by ethernet is:

Windows IP Configuration
Host Name . . . . . . . . . . . . : HALL
Primary Dns Suffix . . . . . . . :
Node Type . . . . . . . . . . . . : Mixed
IP Routing Enabled. . . . . . . . : No
WINS Proxy Enabled. . . . . . . . : No
DNS Suffix Search List. . . . . . : MSHOME

Ethernet adapter Local Area Connection:
Connection-specific DNS Suffix . : MSHOME
Description . . . . . . . . . . . : Realtek RTL8139 Family PCI
Fast Ethernet NIC
Physical Address. . . . . . . . . : 00-0D-88-39-8B-60
Dhcp Enabled. . . . . . . . . . . : Yes
Autoconfiguration Enabled . . . . : Yes
IP Address. . . . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.0.10
Subnet Mask . . . . . . . . . . . : 255.255.255.0
Default Gateway . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.0.1
DHCP Server . . . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.0.1
DNS Servers . . . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.0.1
Lease Obtained. . . . . . . . . . : Tuesday, June 28, 2005
4:07:40 PM
Lease Expires . . . . . . . . . . : Tuesday, June 28, 2005
4:08:00 PM

===========================================================

Thanks for your prompt reply!

Dave

 

[bobb]

No help.

In fact, if I leave
off the dial-up internet connection, I can run the browser based utility
program in the Linksys from either machine.

OK, I don't understand this. Why do you have a dial-up Internet
connection when you have broadband? Do u mean your previous dial-up
icon on your desktop? Where is this dial-up connection comming from?
one/both of your machines or coming out from the router?

BUT, each machine can only
see itself when I look at network connections,

Don't get this either. What keystroke, mouse movement do you do to
"look at network connections" What screen at you looking at? Title of
the screen please, how did you get there.

 

[JD]

OK. Let me try this again. I currently only have a dial-up internet
connection. I've signed up to get a cable connection, but the cable
company can't properly put the internet signal on the existing wire -
so, they are going to have to do some digging and install a new line to
my house. Because I was planning to have cable service, I bought the
wireless modem/router. So, the connection on which I'm writing this is
a 56Kbit dial-up. The other machine currently has no internet access.

"Look at network connection" START-SETTINGS-NETWORK CONNECTIONS. It is
labelled "Network Connections" (this is XP/Home)

I had hoped the ipconfig outputs would show most all of that (except the
non-working cable!)

 

[bobb]

OK, I hope we are getting closer. What a tower of Babble!

You are trying to use your old dialup with your new broadband
equipment. Is this so?

Lets hope I got it straight this time otherwise correct me -

Anytime u want to run multiple machine PCs LAN with a dialup, this
means the machine which is doing the dialup (the one with the analog
modem), must serve as a router to the rest of the LAN. Your broadband
router is not doing its job at the moment. Here's a pseudo picture:

All other PC -> switch -> PC (router) w/ICS -> Analog modem

The "switch" in this case is your linksys, you are not using its
router function at the moment.

To make this work, convert one of your PC to a router is to install
Microsoft Internet Connection Sharing (ICS). Look at the help file,
it's all there.

 

[bobb]

And oh to save you some time...


All Other PC -> Linksys -> PCR -> Dialup.


U turn off DHCP on the Linksys. Let PCR gives the other PC their IPs.
ICS has a rudimentary built-in DHCP for this purpose.

You are merely using the Linksys, at this moment as a hub and nothing
more.

If u use Linksys' DHCP, then the Linksys box in fact is now telling
the other PCs, "to get to the Internet, go through me, and I will send
your request out of WAN port" and currently your WAN port is
non-functional.

I hope this clear things out somewhat for you.

 

[JD]

Thanks. I understand about which machine should do the routing.
Thanks for your help.
Dave