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Ricoy-Chicago

Hope some one can help me... On my newer computer (win XP), the motherboard
went bad, i removed the HD (ATA) "hard drive X" and installed on my older
computer (Win Me). I set the jumpers for master and slave. "Win Me" computer
has an ATA HD also "hard drive y". Cables are Ok, BIOS , POST and, Win
Manager recognizes both HD BUT NOT Windows Explorer...

I made the Win XP "hard drive X' the master and I can start Windows XP but
then i have to validate windows, I can't because it is a different
computer...

All I want is my music, photos and videos stored in the "hard drive X". Is
there a way I can do it using some copying software ... maybe?
 
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philo

Ricoy-Chicago said:
Hope some one can help me... On my newer computer (win XP), the motherboard
went bad, i removed the HD (ATA) "hard drive X" and installed on my older
computer (Win Me). I set the jumpers for master and slave. "Win Me" computer
has an ATA HD also "hard drive y". Cables are Ok, BIOS , POST and, Win
Manager recognizes both HD BUT NOT Windows Explorer...

I made the Win XP "hard drive X' the master and I can start Windows XP but
then i have to validate windows, I can't because it is a different
computer...

All I want is my music, photos and videos stored in the "hard drive X". Is
there a way I can do it using some copying software ... maybe?
Click to expand...


WinME can only recognize drives that use fat/32 (file system)

XP is usually installed on an NTFS drive, so is not going to be readable

you need to attach the drive to an other machine...
one running Win2k, XP or Vista (or NT for that matter)


Note: there may be a third party utility avail to read NTFS form windows
but I have no idea if it would work

Otherwise...there is one dos utility I know of


http://www.freewarefiles.com/ntfsdos-readwrite-ntfs-from-dos_program_11100.html
 
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Pegasus \(MVP\)

Ricoy-Chicago said:
Hope some one can help me... On my newer computer (win XP), the
motherboard
went bad, i removed the HD (ATA) "hard drive X" and installed on my older
computer (Win Me). I set the jumpers for master and slave. "Win Me"
computer
has an ATA HD also "hard drive y". Cables are Ok, BIOS , POST and, Win
Manager recognizes both HD BUT NOT Windows Explorer...

I made the Win XP "hard drive X' the master and I can start Windows XP but
then i have to validate windows, I can't because it is a different
computer...

All I want is my music, photos and videos stored in the "hard drive X". Is
there a way I can do it using some copying software ... maybe?
Click to expand...

Yes, you can, by installing NTFSDOS from www.sysinternals.com
or by installing the disk in some other Win2000/XP PC.

After recovering from this disaster, think about your backup
strategy. Good computing practice says that important files
must never reside on just one single medium. Many people
ignore this rule until they suffer a major hit. A 2.5" disk in an
external USB case would be a low cost but highly effective
backup medium.
 
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Ricoy-Chicago

i have a computer W/windows Vista however it has a SATA HD. How can I connect
the ATA drive to the SATA socket in the motherboard? can I use the CD-ROM
ribbon?

I have also access to another computer with Win XP but it also has a SATA
HD...same problem as above....
 
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philo

Ricoy-Chicago said:
i have a computer W/windows Vista however it has a SATA HD. How can I connect
the ATA drive to the SATA socket in the motherboard? can I use the CD-ROM
ribbon?

I have also access to another computer with Win XP but it also has a SATA
HD...same problem as above....
Click to expand...

<snip>

As long as either of those machines somewhere has an IDE header,
that's the way to go
 
B

Bill in Co.

Just FYI: I found it in a Google search, but I don't recall where at this
point.
 
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philo

Ken Blake said:
Not literally true, of course. It has no problem with FAT16 and FAT12.
Click to expand...


Note I did not write "Fat32" .

My post said "fat/32" which of course implies fat 12/16 and 32

and easily enough understood shorthand.


OTOH: I don't know if my shorthand notation implied that WinME can recognize
NT4's 4gig Fat16...
it may have trouble reading the entire partition.

I'm sure I tested that sometime many years ago
but...<G>
 
K

Ken Blake, MVP

Note I did not write "Fat32" .

My post said "fat/32" which of course implies fat 12/16 and 32

and easily enough understood shorthand.
Click to expand...


It may imply it to you, but I certainly didn't read it that way, and
I'll bet that most others didn't either.
 
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philo

Ken Blake said:
It may imply it to you, but I certainly didn't read it that way, and
I'll bet that most others didn't either.
Click to expand...


You may be right...
I'll take a vote.

All who thought my post unclear please let me know.

Thank you!
 
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Karl Snooks

Pegasus,
Went there. NTFSDOS links there all point to SysInternals site. Get the IE
msg about not being to locate page or whatever that msg says when attempt to
reach a site fails. I'm thinking that, for one reason or the other, NTFSDOS
has been removed from the sysinternals web site.

karl snooks
 
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Bill in Co.

Philo, I think that site is for Avira's NTFS4DOS, which is NOT the same
thing as NTFSDOS.

It's been "somewhat interesting" exploring the differences, however.
 
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philo

Bill in Co. said:
Philo, I think that site is for Avira's NTFS4DOS, which is NOT the same
thing as NTFSDOS.
Click to expand...


I see that Avira has a free version and a paid version...
somehow I'd think the paid version must be better.


I don't know how they'd compare to NTFSDOS


Just a guess here, but the free version of NTFS4DOS
may be good for reading an NTFS partition and maybe for copying data off of
it...

I did try it once and confirmed that I could at least read an NTFS partition
from dos...
but that's as far as I went
 
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Bill in Co.

philo said:
I see that Avira has a free version and a paid version...
somehow I'd think the paid version must be better.

I don't know how they'd compare to NTFSDOS

Just a guess here, but the free version of NTFS4DOS
may be good for reading an NTFS partition and maybe for copying data off
of
it...
Click to expand...

But you can do that even simpler by just using "NTFSDOS", however (a totally
different program, but with read only access).

I think with NTFS4DOS Free you can also write, but I haven't checked that
yet, and I really should do that.

Plus NTFS4DOS has some other utilities, like a version of checkdisk and a
disk defragger.

But some of it is in German. And it takes notably more time, and screen
prompting, to finally boot up.
 
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philo

Bill in Co. said:
But you can do that even simpler by just using "NTFSDOS", however (a totally
different program, but with read only access).

I think with NTFS4DOS Free you can also write, but I haven't checked that
yet, and I really should do that.

Plus NTFS4DOS has some other utilities, like a version of checkdisk and a
disk defragger.

But some of it is in German. And it takes notably more time, and screen
prompting, to finally boot up.
Click to expand...


<snip>

Truth is...I don't know if I'd ever feel comfortable writing to an NTFS
partition for any dos-based utility...
especially considering that all my XP/Win2k/NT machines have several
removable drive bays...
so I can have access to any NTFS drive from an NT-based machine in just a
few minutes
 

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