Can not fix boot.ini

G

Guest

Changed BIOS HD boot order - didn't help. Can't use rdisk (3) since it's not
bootable and no boot.ini.

David Candy said:
So what is your 1st to 4th disk according to your BIOS (as BIOSs can change the physical arrangement with code). The 1st will be the Boot device set in the BIOS.

Did RDisk(3) not work?
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RGold said:
Forgot to mantion that every disk contains only ONE partition.

Dave Patrick said:
Post the contents of boot.ini from your boot disk. What is the physical disk
*and* partition arrangement? In other words which disk and partition is the
system partition? and boot partition? Be aware that Microsoft defines the
boot partition for the partition where the operating system is installed,
while the system partition is the first primary active partition (where the
boot sector resides)


--

Regards,

Dave Patrick ....Please no email replies - reply in newsgroup.
Microsoft Certified Professional
Microsoft MVP [Windows]
http://www.microsoft.com/protect

:
If I use winXP boot disk to boot with same boot.ini I don't get any errors
.

So what is different when booting from HD? And why the bootcfg /rebuild
does
not work in my case?

Thanks for your help.
 
D

David Candy

RDisk(3) tells windows where the windows folder is, it is correct according to your current disk cfg (which is wrong). It may or may not stay at 3 depending on how you fix the disk cfg. So it is right. But your disk 2 needs to be disk 0 by using the BIOS or by changing the connectors.
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=================================================
RGold said:
Changed BIOS HD boot order - didn't help. Can't use rdisk (3) since it's not
bootable and no boot.ini.

David Candy said:
So what is your 1st to 4th disk according to your BIOS (as BIOSs can change the physical arrangement with code). The 1st will be the Boot device set in the BIOS.

Did RDisk(3) not work?
--
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Read David defending the concept of violence.
http://margokingston.typepad.com/harry_version_2/2005/10/entering_the_ga.html#more
=================================================
RGold said:
Forgot to mantion that every disk contains only ONE partition.

:

Post the contents of boot.ini from your boot disk. What is the physical disk
*and* partition arrangement? In other words which disk and partition is the
system partition? and boot partition? Be aware that Microsoft defines the
boot partition for the partition where the operating system is installed,
while the system partition is the first primary active partition (where the
boot sector resides)


--

Regards,

Dave Patrick ....Please no email replies - reply in newsgroup.
Microsoft Certified Professional
Microsoft MVP [Windows]
http://www.microsoft.com/protect

:
If I use winXP boot disk to boot with same boot.ini I don't get any errors
.

So what is different when booting from HD? And why the bootcfg /rebuild
does
not work in my case?

Thanks for your help.
 
P

Pegasus \(MVP\)

Unfortunately you decided not to tell us which is your active
partition, hence I have to rely on guesswork. I suspect that
drive D: is your active partition, and since boot.ini is on drive
C:, you get the well-known error message. Copy it to drive
D: and your problem will be solved.


RGold said:
In disk managment I see the following:

Disk 0: is named as (G:)
Disk1: is named as (H:)
Disk2: is named as (C:) this is my boot drive where I see boot.ini
disk3: is named as (D:) this is where Windows exists.

Thanks again!

Pegasus (MVP) said:
OK. Now which one is your active partition, C: or D:?
You can see it when you run diskmgmt.msc (via Start / Run).


RGold said:
Thanks for replay. The excet error is:

'Invalid BOOT.INI file, loading From C:\Windows'

:


I always get boot.ini error during windows start up. I tried the recovery
console fix bootcfg /rebuild but is does not help.

I suspect the issue is because I boot from C drive and windows is under D
drive.

Boot.ini is under rood in C drive and looks like this:
[boot loader]
timeout=20
default=multi(0)disk(0)rdisk(1)partition(1)\WINDOWS
[operating systems]
multi(0)disk(0)rdisk(1)partition(1)\WINDOWS="Microsoft Windows XP
Professional" /fastdetect

Thanks.


If would be helpful if you quoted the actual error you see
on the screen, verbatim!
 
G

Guest

You may be right. Looks like there is an issue with the BIOS. This is a new
motherboard (Gigabyte K8U-939), when I remove the scsi controller I have no
issues. I tried to repair install Windows XP and now I get a massage that
hal.dll is missing. If there is a bootable CD-ROM in the drive then windows
will reboot with no issues. STRANGE! Removing the CD-ROM will give me hal.dll
error...

Thanks for your time and willing to help.

David Candy said:
RDisk(3) tells windows where the windows folder is, it is correct according to your current disk cfg (which is wrong). It may or may not stay at 3 depending on how you fix the disk cfg. So it is right. But your disk 2 needs to be disk 0 by using the BIOS or by changing the connectors.
--
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Read David defending the concept of violence.
http://margokingston.typepad.com/harry_version_2/2005/10/entering_the_ga.html#more
=================================================
RGold said:
Changed BIOS HD boot order - didn't help. Can't use rdisk (3) since it's not
bootable and no boot.ini.

David Candy said:
So what is your 1st to 4th disk according to your BIOS (as BIOSs can change the physical arrangement with code). The 1st will be the Boot device set in the BIOS.

Did RDisk(3) not work?
--
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Read David defending the concept of violence.
http://margokingston.typepad.com/harry_version_2/2005/10/entering_the_ga.html#more
=================================================
Forgot to mantion that every disk contains only ONE partition.

:

Post the contents of boot.ini from your boot disk. What is the physical disk
*and* partition arrangement? In other words which disk and partition is the
system partition? and boot partition? Be aware that Microsoft defines the
boot partition for the partition where the operating system is installed,
while the system partition is the first primary active partition (where the
boot sector resides)


--

Regards,

Dave Patrick ....Please no email replies - reply in newsgroup.
Microsoft Certified Professional
Microsoft MVP [Windows]
http://www.microsoft.com/protect

:
If I use winXP boot disk to boot with same boot.ini I don't get any errors
.

So what is different when booting from HD? And why the bootcfg /rebuild
does
not work in my case?

Thanks for your help.
 
D

David Candy

SCSI have their own BIOS.

--
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Read David defending the concept of violence.
http://margokingston.typepad.com/harry_version_2/2005/10/entering_the_ga.html#more
=================================================
RGold said:
You may be right. Looks like there is an issue with the BIOS. This is a new
motherboard (Gigabyte K8U-939), when I remove the scsi controller I have no
issues. I tried to repair install Windows XP and now I get a massage that
hal.dll is missing. If there is a bootable CD-ROM in the drive then windows
will reboot with no issues. STRANGE! Removing the CD-ROM will give me hal.dll
error...

Thanks for your time and willing to help.

David Candy said:
RDisk(3) tells windows where the windows folder is, it is correct according to your current disk cfg (which is wrong). It may or may not stay at 3 depending on how you fix the disk cfg. So it is right. But your disk 2 needs to be disk 0 by using the BIOS or by changing the connectors.
--
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Read David defending the concept of violence.
http://margokingston.typepad.com/harry_version_2/2005/10/entering_the_ga.html#more
=================================================
RGold said:
Changed BIOS HD boot order - didn't help. Can't use rdisk (3) since it's not
bootable and no boot.ini.

:

So what is your 1st to 4th disk according to your BIOS (as BIOSs can change the physical arrangement with code). The 1st will be the Boot device set in the BIOS.

Did RDisk(3) not work?
--
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Read David defending the concept of violence.
http://margokingston.typepad.com/harry_version_2/2005/10/entering_the_ga.html#more
=================================================
Forgot to mantion that every disk contains only ONE partition.

:

Post the contents of boot.ini from your boot disk. What is the physical disk
*and* partition arrangement? In other words which disk and partition is the
system partition? and boot partition? Be aware that Microsoft defines the
boot partition for the partition where the operating system is installed,
while the system partition is the first primary active partition (where the
boot sector resides)


--

Regards,

Dave Patrick ....Please no email replies - reply in newsgroup.
Microsoft Certified Professional
Microsoft MVP [Windows]
http://www.microsoft.com/protect

:
If I use winXP boot disk to boot with same boot.ini I don't get any errors
.

So what is different when booting from HD? And why the bootcfg /rebuild
does
not work in my case?

Thanks for your help.
 
R

Ron Sommer

I think the issue is your understanding of disk management.

You posted this:
Disk 0: is named as (G:)
Disk1: is named as (H:)
Disk2: is named as (C:) this is my boot drive where I see boot.ini
disk3: is named as (D:) this is where Windows exists.

Disk0 and disk1 must be the scsi disks.
Disk2 must be marked active.
Have you tried changing the rdisk value to 3?
If you remove the scsi drives, then rdisk(1) is correct.
--
Ron Sommer

RGold said:
You may be right. Looks like there is an issue with the BIOS. This is a
new
motherboard (Gigabyte K8U-939), when I remove the scsi controller I have
no
issues. I tried to repair install Windows XP and now I get a massage that
hal.dll is missing. If there is a bootable CD-ROM in the drive then
windows
will reboot with no issues. STRANGE! Removing the CD-ROM will give me
hal.dll
error...

Thanks for your time and willing to help.

David Candy said:
RDisk(3) tells windows where the windows folder is, it is correct
according to your current disk cfg (which is wrong). It may or may not
stay at 3 depending on how you fix the disk cfg. So it is right. But your
disk 2 needs to be disk 0 by using the BIOS or by changing the
connectors.
--
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Read David defending the concept of violence.
http://margokingston.typepad.com/harry_version_2/2005/10/entering_the_ga.html#more
=================================================
RGold said:
Changed BIOS HD boot order - didn't help. Can't use rdisk (3) since
it's not
bootable and no boot.ini.

:

So what is your 1st to 4th disk according to your BIOS (as BIOSs can
change the physical arrangement with code). The 1st will be the Boot
device set in the BIOS.

Did RDisk(3) not work?
--
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Read David defending the concept of violence.
http://margokingston.typepad.com/harry_version_2/2005/10/entering_the_ga.html#more
=================================================
Forgot to mantion that every disk contains only ONE partition.

:

Post the contents of boot.ini from your boot disk. What is the
physical disk
*and* partition arrangement? In other words which disk and
partition is the
system partition? and boot partition? Be aware that Microsoft
defines the
boot partition for the partition where the operating system is
installed,
while the system partition is the first primary active partition
(where the
boot sector resides)


--

Regards,

Dave Patrick ....Please no email replies - reply in newsgroup.
Microsoft Certified Professional
Microsoft MVP [Windows]
http://www.microsoft.com/protect

:
If I use winXP boot disk to boot with same boot.ini I don't get
any errors
.

So what is different when booting from HD? And why the bootcfg
/rebuild
does
not work in my case?

Thanks for your help.
 
G

Guest

YES! using rdisk(3) did the trick. Thanks you for opening my eyes! It was
confusing since using the boot /rebuild in repair console will change it to
rdisk(1) but I know the reason: did use F6 to install scsi drivers therefore
windows didn't "see" scsi and gave wrong number to boot.ini.

Ron, thank you very very much !

Ron Sommer said:
I think the issue is your understanding of disk management.

You posted this:
Disk 0: is named as (G:)
Disk1: is named as (H:)
Disk2: is named as (C:) this is my boot drive where I see boot.ini
disk3: is named as (D:) this is where Windows exists.

Disk0 and disk1 must be the scsi disks.
Disk2 must be marked active.
Have you tried changing the rdisk value to 3?
If you remove the scsi drives, then rdisk(1) is correct.
--
Ron Sommer

RGold said:
You may be right. Looks like there is an issue with the BIOS. This is a
new
motherboard (Gigabyte K8U-939), when I remove the scsi controller I have
no
issues. I tried to repair install Windows XP and now I get a massage that
hal.dll is missing. If there is a bootable CD-ROM in the drive then
windows
will reboot with no issues. STRANGE! Removing the CD-ROM will give me
hal.dll
error...

Thanks for your time and willing to help.

David Candy said:
RDisk(3) tells windows where the windows folder is, it is correct
according to your current disk cfg (which is wrong). It may or may not
stay at 3 depending on how you fix the disk cfg. So it is right. But your
disk 2 needs to be disk 0 by using the BIOS or by changing the
connectors.
--
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Read David defending the concept of violence.
http://margokingston.typepad.com/harry_version_2/2005/10/entering_the_ga.html#more
=================================================
Changed BIOS HD boot order - didn't help. Can't use rdisk (3) since
it's not
bootable and no boot.ini.

:

So what is your 1st to 4th disk according to your BIOS (as BIOSs can
change the physical arrangement with code). The 1st will be the Boot
device set in the BIOS.

Did RDisk(3) not work?
--
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Read David defending the concept of violence.
http://margokingston.typepad.com/harry_version_2/2005/10/entering_the_ga.html#more
=================================================
Forgot to mantion that every disk contains only ONE partition.

:

Post the contents of boot.ini from your boot disk. What is the
physical disk
*and* partition arrangement? In other words which disk and
partition is the
system partition? and boot partition? Be aware that Microsoft
defines the
boot partition for the partition where the operating system is
installed,
while the system partition is the first primary active partition
(where the
boot sector resides)


--

Regards,

Dave Patrick ....Please no email replies - reply in newsgroup.
Microsoft Certified Professional
Microsoft MVP [Windows]
http://www.microsoft.com/protect

:
If I use winXP boot disk to boot with same boot.ini I don't get
any errors
.

So what is different when booting from HD? And why the bootcfg
/rebuild
does
not work in my case?

Thanks for your help.
 
G

Guest

David,

You were right I needed to be rdisk(3)

Again, thank you for taking the time to help.


David Candy said:
SCSI have their own BIOS.

--
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Read David defending the concept of violence.
http://margokingston.typepad.com/harry_version_2/2005/10/entering_the_ga.html#more
=================================================
RGold said:
You may be right. Looks like there is an issue with the BIOS. This is a new
motherboard (Gigabyte K8U-939), when I remove the scsi controller I have no
issues. I tried to repair install Windows XP and now I get a massage that
hal.dll is missing. If there is a bootable CD-ROM in the drive then windows
will reboot with no issues. STRANGE! Removing the CD-ROM will give me hal.dll
error...

Thanks for your time and willing to help.

David Candy said:
RDisk(3) tells windows where the windows folder is, it is correct according to your current disk cfg (which is wrong). It may or may not stay at 3 depending on how you fix the disk cfg. So it is right. But your disk 2 needs to be disk 0 by using the BIOS or by changing the connectors.
--
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Read David defending the concept of violence.
http://margokingston.typepad.com/harry_version_2/2005/10/entering_the_ga.html#more
=================================================
Changed BIOS HD boot order - didn't help. Can't use rdisk (3) since it's not
bootable and no boot.ini.

:

So what is your 1st to 4th disk according to your BIOS (as BIOSs can change the physical arrangement with code). The 1st will be the Boot device set in the BIOS.

Did RDisk(3) not work?
--
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Read David defending the concept of violence.
http://margokingston.typepad.com/harry_version_2/2005/10/entering_the_ga.html#more
=================================================
Forgot to mantion that every disk contains only ONE partition.

:

Post the contents of boot.ini from your boot disk. What is the physical disk
*and* partition arrangement? In other words which disk and partition is the
system partition? and boot partition? Be aware that Microsoft defines the
boot partition for the partition where the operating system is installed,
while the system partition is the first primary active partition (where the
boot sector resides)


--

Regards,

Dave Patrick ....Please no email replies - reply in newsgroup.
Microsoft Certified Professional
Microsoft MVP [Windows]
http://www.microsoft.com/protect

:
If I use winXP boot disk to boot with same boot.ini I don't get any errors
.

So what is different when booting from HD? And why the bootcfg /rebuild
does
not work in my case?

Thanks for your help.
 

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