D
Dominic Payer
I don't know that it works on a virtual machine but can see no reason
why it shouldn't.
why it shouldn't.
K
Ken Blake, MVP
My opinion is exactly the opposite: Unlike with previous versions of
Windows, upgrades starting with Windows XP replace almost everything,
and usually work very well.
My recommendation is to at least try the upgrade, since it's much
easier than a clean installation. You can always change your mind and
reinstall cleanly if problems develop.
However, don't assume that doing an upgrade relieves you of the need
to backup your data, etc. before beginning. Before starting to
upgrade, it's always prudent to recognize that things like a sudden
power loss can occur in the middle of it and cause the loss of
everything. For that reason you should make sure you have backups and
anything else you need to reinstall if the worst happens.
J
Jack Mc Kenna
So how did I do a fresh install on a partition for Win7 with an upgradeGordon said:
version of Home Oreimun with noproblem at all? I had XP Pro on a different
partition and now I have a Dual boot system. I boted Win7 from a DVD drive
to do this. Make sure you know what you are talking about.
L
Leroy
You can't. You would need to purchase a Full Version Windows 7 license
if you have no qualifying Windows operating system installed.
if you have no qualifying Windows operating system installed.
X
xfile
I'd be very happy to see the official words about it.
In the mean time, refer to the following and please use your common sense.
Clean install with Windows 7 upgrade media? Get the facts!
http://blogs.zdnet.com/Bott/?p=1505
Quotes:
Meanwhile, an argument that should have died ages ago has reared its head
again. If you purchase a discounted upgrade edition of Windows 7, can you
use it to perform a clean installation of the operating system on a PC that
doesn't currently have Windows installed?
The answer is really simple. If you qualify for an upgrade license, then
yes, you can use any number of workarounds to install the operating system
legally. If you don't qualify for an upgrade license, then those same
workarounds might technically succeed, but your license is not valid. Will
you get away with it? Probably. But if you're running a business, you run
the risk that an employee will turn you in to the Business Software
Alliance, which could lead to an audit, civil charges, and eventually some
stiff penalties.
[...]
Finally, there's the question of what older Windows versions qualify for an
upgrade to Windows 7. The answer is on the retail upgrade box: "All editions
of Windows XP and Windows Vista qualify you to upgrade. . If you are
upgrading from Windows XP, you will need to back up your files and settings,
perform a clean install and then re-install your existing files, settings,
and programs."
"Note that it specifically says "clean install," not "custom install."
http://windows.microsoft.com/upgrade?os=win7
Upgrading from Windows XP
Upgrade your current PC
If your current PC can run Windows 7, you can upgrade it. Note that you can
use upgrade media, but you must perform a custom installation of Windows 7,
which doesn't keep any of your files, programs, or settings.
Upgrading from Windows Vista
Upgrade your current PC
This table describes which editions of Windows Vista can be upgraded to
Windows 7. If you can't upgrade to the edition of Windows 7 that you want,
you can use upgrade media and perform a custom installation. A custom
installation doesn't preserve your files, programs, or settings.
In the mean time, refer to the following and please use your common sense.
Clean install with Windows 7 upgrade media? Get the facts!
http://blogs.zdnet.com/Bott/?p=1505
Quotes:
Meanwhile, an argument that should have died ages ago has reared its head
again. If you purchase a discounted upgrade edition of Windows 7, can you
use it to perform a clean installation of the operating system on a PC that
doesn't currently have Windows installed?
The answer is really simple. If you qualify for an upgrade license, then
yes, you can use any number of workarounds to install the operating system
legally. If you don't qualify for an upgrade license, then those same
workarounds might technically succeed, but your license is not valid. Will
you get away with it? Probably. But if you're running a business, you run
the risk that an employee will turn you in to the Business Software
Alliance, which could lead to an audit, civil charges, and eventually some
stiff penalties.
[...]
Finally, there's the question of what older Windows versions qualify for an
upgrade to Windows 7. The answer is on the retail upgrade box: "All editions
of Windows XP and Windows Vista qualify you to upgrade. . If you are
upgrading from Windows XP, you will need to back up your files and settings,
perform a clean install and then re-install your existing files, settings,
and programs."
"Note that it specifically says "clean install," not "custom install."
http://windows.microsoft.com/upgrade?os=win7
Upgrading from Windows XP
Upgrade your current PC
If your current PC can run Windows 7, you can upgrade it. Note that you can
use upgrade media, but you must perform a custom installation of Windows 7,
which doesn't keep any of your files, programs, or settings.
Upgrading from Windows Vista
Upgrade your current PC
This table describes which editions of Windows Vista can be upgraded to
Windows 7. If you can't upgrade to the edition of Windows 7 that you want,
you can use upgrade media and perform a custom installation. A custom
installation doesn't preserve your files, programs, or settings.
X
xfile
Hi,
Thanks for you reply.
Nothing in those pages says anything about "a valid previous copy of
Microsoft Windows
XP or Microsoft Windows Vista installed to validate the upgrade and activate
the product key".
In fact, the following is under "Installing a custom version of Windows"
(http://windows.microsoft.com/en-US/Windows7/Installing-and-reinstalling-Windows)
"Installing a custom version of Windows. Choose Custom to completely replace
your current operating system, or to install Windows on a specific drive or
partition that you select. You can also use Custom if your computer doesn't
have an operating system, or if you want to set up a multiboot system on
your computer. For more information about setting up a multiboot system, see
Install more than one operating system (multiboot)."
Note that it says - You can also use Custom if your computer doesn't have an
operating system[...]
And there is a subsection "Install more than one operating system
(multiboot)"
(http://windows.microsoft.com/en-us/windows7/Install-more-than-one-operating-system-multiboot)
for a clean install on a separate partition and it says: If your computer's
hard disk has adequate free disk space, you can install a newer version of
Windows on a separate partition and keep the earlier version of Windows on
your computer.
Did I miss something, or you?
in message
Thanks for you reply.
Nothing in those pages says anything about "a valid previous copy of
Microsoft Windows
XP or Microsoft Windows Vista installed to validate the upgrade and activate
the product key".
In fact, the following is under "Installing a custom version of Windows"
(http://windows.microsoft.com/en-US/Windows7/Installing-and-reinstalling-Windows)
"Installing a custom version of Windows. Choose Custom to completely replace
your current operating system, or to install Windows on a specific drive or
partition that you select. You can also use Custom if your computer doesn't
have an operating system, or if you want to set up a multiboot system on
your computer. For more information about setting up a multiboot system, see
Install more than one operating system (multiboot)."
Note that it says - You can also use Custom if your computer doesn't have an
operating system[...]
And there is a subsection "Install more than one operating system
(multiboot)"
(http://windows.microsoft.com/en-us/windows7/Install-more-than-one-operating-system-multiboot)
for a clean install on a separate partition and it says: If your computer's
hard disk has adequate free disk space, you can install a newer version of
Windows on a separate partition and keep the earlier version of Windows on
your computer.
Did I miss something, or you?
in message
L
Leroy
Jessica is correct. One must have a qualifying Windows operating system
installed if you plan on installing an Upgrade version of Windows 7.
The Windows 7 Upgrade DVD is designed to validate the license which
qualifies you to install and activate the Upgrade license.
installed if you plan on installing an Upgrade version of Windows 7.
The Windows 7 Upgrade DVD is designed to validate the license which
qualifies you to install and activate the Upgrade license.
X
xfile
At this point, I've not seen any official words from both of you other than
your own words which are contradicting to the official statements and real
life experience.
There is no point for me to continue this tread
your own words which are contradicting to the official statements and real
life experience.
There is no point for me to continue this tread
Leroy said:
J
John E. Carty
You can do a clean install even with the upgrade version and it will
activate afterwards with no issues:
<http://www.winsupersite.com/win7/clean_install_upgrade_media.asp>
activate afterwards with no issues:
<http://www.winsupersite.com/win7/clean_install_upgrade_media.asp>
Leroy said:
L
Leroy
Windows 7 Answers Forum:
http://social.answers.microsoft.com/Forums/en-US/category/windows7
http://social.answers.microsoft.com/Forums/en-US/category/windows7
At this point, I've not seen any official words from both of you other
than your own words which are contradicting to the official statements
and real life experience.
There is no point for me to continue this tread
Leroy said:
L
Leroy
Moving to Windows 7 FAQ:
http://windowsteamblog.com/blogs/windows7/archive/2009/09/24/moving-to-windows-7-faq.aspx
"Upgrade versions require Windows XP or Windows Vista to be running on
your computer before installing Windows 7. Full versions of Windows 7
don't require a previous version of Windows to be running on your
computer. Both upgrade and full versions contain the same features. If
you want to format your hard drive when installing Windows 7, you will
need the full version. In general, choose the full version of Windows 7
if you don't have a previous version of Windows on your PC. Choose the
upgrade version if you have Windows XP or Windows Vista on your PC."
http://windowsteamblog.com/blogs/windows7/archive/2009/09/24/moving-to-windows-7-faq.aspx
"Upgrade versions require Windows XP or Windows Vista to be running on
your computer before installing Windows 7. Full versions of Windows 7
don't require a previous version of Windows to be running on your
computer. Both upgrade and full versions contain the same features. If
you want to format your hard drive when installing Windows 7, you will
need the full version. In general, choose the full version of Windows 7
if you don't have a previous version of Windows on your PC. Choose the
upgrade version if you have Windows XP or Windows Vista on your PC."
At this point, I've not seen any official words from both of you other
than your own words which are contradicting to the official statements
and real life experience.
There is no point for me to continue this tread
Leroy said:
X
xfile
Good.
Now we see a disorganized company with contradictory statements.
But yours is from a team blog and those I posted are from the company's
statements.
Someone needs to clean their mess.
Now we see a disorganized company with contradictory statements.
But yours is from a team blog and those I posted are from the company's
statements.
Someone needs to clean their mess.
Leroy said:Moving to Windows 7 FAQ:
http://windowsteamblog.com/blogs/windows7/archive/2009/09/24/moving-to-windows-7-faq.aspx
"Upgrade versions require Windows XP or Windows Vista to be running on
your computer before installing Windows 7. Full versions of Windows 7
don't require a previous version of Windows to be running on your
computer. Both upgrade and full versions contain the same features. If you
want to format your hard drive when installing Windows 7, you will need
the full version. In general, choose the full version of Windows 7 if you
don't have a previous version of Windows on your PC. Choose the upgrade
version if you have Windows XP or Windows Vista on your PC."
At this point, I've not seen any official words from both of you other
than your own words which are contradicting to the official statements
and real life experience.
There is no point for me to continue this tread
Leroy said:
N
Natéag
It was definitely possible to install Vista using the upgrade DVD.
Is Windows 7 different in that respect ?.
That is not clear from the postings in this group.
Is Windows 7 different in that respect ?.
That is not clear from the postings in this group.
xfile said:Good.
Now we see a disorganized company with contradictory statements.
But yours is from a team blog and those I posted are from the company's
statements.
Someone needs to clean their mess.
Leroy said:Moving to Windows 7 FAQ:
http://windowsteamblog.com/blogs/windows7/archive/2009/09/24/moving-to-windows-7-faq.aspx
"Upgrade versions require Windows XP or Windows Vista to be running on
your computer before installing Windows 7. Full versions of Windows 7
don't require a previous version of Windows to be running on your
computer. Both upgrade and full versions contain the same features. If
you want to format your hard drive when installing Windows 7, you will
need the full version. In general, choose the full version of Windows 7
if you don't have a previous version of Windows on your PC. Choose the
upgrade version if you have Windows XP or Windows Vista on your PC."
At this point, I've not seen any official words from both of you other
than your own words which are contradicting to the official statements
and real life experience.
There is no point for me to continue this tread
Jessica is correct. One must have a qualifying Windows operating
system installed if you plan on installing an Upgrade version of
Windows 7.
The Windows 7 Upgrade DVD is designed to validate the license which
qualifies you to install and activate the Upgrade license.
xfile wrote:
Hi,
Thanks for you reply.
You can perform a clean install from a Windows 7 upgrade version
however you will have to have a valid previous copy of Microsoft
Windows
XP or Microsoft Windows Vista installed to validate the upgrade and
activate the product key.
Nothing in those pages says anything about "a valid previous copy of
Microsoft Windows
XP or Microsoft Windows Vista installed to validate the upgrade and
activate the product key".
In fact, the following is under "Installing a custom version of
Windows"
(http://windows.microsoft.com/en-US/Windows7/Installing-and-reinstalling-Windows)
"Installing a custom version of Windows. Choose Custom to completely
replace your current operating system, or to install Windows on a
specific drive or partition that you select. You can also use Custom
if your computer doesn't have an operating system, or if you want to
set up a multiboot system on your computer. For more information about
setting up a multiboot system, see Install more than one operating
system (multiboot)."
Note that it says - You can also use Custom if your computer doesn't
have an operating system[...]
And there is a subsection "Install more than one operating system
(multiboot)"
(http://windows.microsoft.com/en-us/windows7/Install-more-than-one-operating-system-multiboot)
for a clean install on a separate partition and it says: If your
computer's hard disk has adequate free disk space, you can install a
newer version of Windows on a separate partition and keep the earlier
version of Windows on your computer.
Did I miss something, or you?
in message
Xfile,
You can perform a clean install from a Windows 7 upgrade version
however you will have to have a valid previous copy of Microsoft
Windows
XP or Microsoft Windows Vista installed to validate the upgrade and
activate the product key. Please note that when migrating from
Windows
XP to Windows 7 you will not have an "in place upgrade" option. You
will
however have the option to select "custom" install when prompted. The
Windows 7 install process will then copy all of your data in "My
Documents" over to a Windows.old folder within Windows 7 itself. All
applications and documents stored in other locations will have to be
reinstalled / transferred manually.
For more information on the Windows 7 Upgrade, please go here:
http://bit.ly/3DvynK
For additional assistance with the migration of Windows XP to Windows
7, please go here: http://tinyurl.com/mhbep4
Jessica
Microsoft Windows Client Team
X
xfile
Hi,
My own experience along with many others' including those posted statements
all confirmed that it is possible, and legally, to perform a clean install
on a new partition.
But I am not the company's representative so I can't give you an
authoritative answer.
I do sense that they might be facing a litigation war if they can't come up
a coherent statement soon enough.
Hope this helps and good luck.
My own experience along with many others' including those posted statements
all confirmed that it is possible, and legally, to perform a clean install
on a new partition.
But I am not the company's representative so I can't give you an
authoritative answer.
I do sense that they might be facing a litigation war if they can't come up
a coherent statement soon enough.
Hope this helps and good luck.
Natéag said:It was definitely possible to install Vista using the upgrade DVD.
Is Windows 7 different in that respect ?.
That is not clear from the postings in this group.
xfile said:Good.
Now we see a disorganized company with contradictory statements.
But yours is from a team blog and those I posted are from the company's
statements.
Someone needs to clean their mess.
Leroy said:Moving to Windows 7 FAQ:
http://windowsteamblog.com/blogs/windows7/archive/2009/09/24/moving-to-windows-7-faq.aspx
"Upgrade versions require Windows XP or Windows Vista to be running on
your computer before installing Windows 7. Full versions of Windows 7
don't require a previous version of Windows to be running on your
computer. Both upgrade and full versions contain the same features. If
you want to format your hard drive when installing Windows 7, you will
need the full version. In general, choose the full version of Windows 7
if you don't have a previous version of Windows on your PC. Choose the
upgrade version if you have Windows XP or Windows Vista on your PC."
xfile wrote:
At this point, I've not seen any official words from both of you other
than your own words which are contradicting to the official statements
and real life experience.
There is no point for me to continue this tread
Jessica is correct. One must have a qualifying Windows operating
system installed if you plan on installing an Upgrade version of
Windows 7.
The Windows 7 Upgrade DVD is designed to validate the license which
qualifies you to install and activate the Upgrade license.
xfile wrote:
Hi,
Thanks for you reply.
You can perform a clean install from a Windows 7 upgrade version
however you will have to have a valid previous copy of Microsoft
Windows
XP or Microsoft Windows Vista installed to validate the upgrade and
activate the product key.
Nothing in those pages says anything about "a valid previous copy of
Microsoft Windows
XP or Microsoft Windows Vista installed to validate the upgrade and
activate the product key".
In fact, the following is under "Installing a custom version of
Windows"
(http://windows.microsoft.com/en-US/Windows7/Installing-and-reinstalling-Windows)
"Installing a custom version of Windows. Choose Custom to completely
replace your current operating system, or to install Windows on a
specific drive or partition that you select. You can also use Custom
if your computer doesn't have an operating system, or if you want to
set up a multiboot system on your computer. For more information
about setting up a multiboot system, see Install more than one
operating system (multiboot)."
Note that it says - You can also use Custom if your computer doesn't
have an operating system[...]
And there is a subsection "Install more than one operating system
(multiboot)"
(http://windows.microsoft.com/en-us/windows7/Install-more-than-one-operating-system-multiboot)
for a clean install on a separate partition and it says: If your
computer's hard disk has adequate free disk space, you can install a
newer version of Windows on a separate partition and keep the earlier
version of Windows on your computer.
Did I miss something, or you?
in message
Xfile,
You can perform a clean install from a Windows 7 upgrade version
however you will have to have a valid previous copy of Microsoft
Windows
XP or Microsoft Windows Vista installed to validate the upgrade and
activate the product key. Please note that when migrating from
Windows
XP to Windows 7 you will not have an "in place upgrade" option. You
will
however have the option to select "custom" install when prompted.
The
Windows 7 install process will then copy all of your data in "My
Documents" over to a Windows.old folder within Windows 7 itself. All
applications and documents stored in other locations will have to be
reinstalled / transferred manually.
For more information on the Windows 7 Upgrade, please go here:
http://bit.ly/3DvynK
For additional assistance with the migration of Windows XP to
Windows
7, please go here: http://tinyurl.com/mhbep4
Jessica
Microsoft Windows Client Team
C
Camper
Get a life.xfile said:
X
xfile
Very impressive.
Do you happen to know that a new church has been built by your master and
most of your friends have moved to there for worship?
Maybe Gordon and Leroy forgot to tell you.
Now this is a true peer-to-peer newsgroup, so you may want to join your
comrades over there
Do you happen to know that a new church has been built by your master and
most of your friends have moved to there for worship?
Maybe Gordon and Leroy forgot to tell you.
Now this is a true peer-to-peer newsgroup, so you may want to join your
comrades over there
B
Bill Yanaire
xfile said:
I hope they have a PORN section.
They are both IDIOTS.
Now this is a true peer-to-peer newsgroup, so you may want to join your
comrades over there
Maybe they could go to alt.sheepfuckers.org