Can I merge a page in MSFP?

R

Rocko

When I work with a photo editing software and make web pages and other
graphics, there is a way to merge the whole page when I am satisified it is
right.

My MSFP webpages are easily disturbed because all the objects are floating
and not stable. This also affects what happens when I minimize the page. The
page minimizes but the objects stay where they are. In other words I need to
"nail down" my objects so they won't move. This is called "merging" in my
other software.

Can this be done with MSFP 2003?
 
T

Trevor Lawrence

Rocko,
I assume that the objects which remain stationary are the images. As you
noted, it is not a matter of nailing down these objects. They appear to be
already fixed. It seems that what you want is for the text and object to
move together. If so, I would suggest putting each image and its associated
text into its own cell of a table, e.g.
<table>
<tr><!-- Row 1 -->
<td>
<img src = "images/img1.jpg" .........>
Some text for img1
</td>
<td>
<img src = "images/img2.jpg" .........>
Some text for img2
</td>
</tr>

<tr><!-- Row 2 -->
<td>
<img src = "images/img3.jpg" .........>
Some text for img3
</td>
<td>
<img src = "images/img4.jpg" .........>
Some text for img4
</td>
</tr>
</table>

This is just an example with img1 and img2 in row1 and img3 and img4 in row
2 of the table The actual arrangement can be whatever you want
up to you

If you were to post the web address, we here may be better able to comment
 
R

Rocko

I guess the best way to put it is to say I need for everything to be merged
into the background which is a texture fill. What you suggested is not an
option as the website is completely finished and I'm so worn out from doing
it (as an amateur) I don't plan to do it again any time soon.

Thanks
 
T

Trevor Lawrence

I might think some more later but my first thought was that if you want a
background image, create it in an image editor as (say) "mybg.jpg" and then
use it as a background

The CSS is
body { background-image: url(mybg.jpg); }
 
R

Ronx

Make it a fixed width page, for example:

<body>
<div style="width:760px; position: relative; margin: 0 auto;">
All the page content goes here
</div>
</body>

This fixes the page width at 760px - just right for a browser opened at
800px wide. If the browser is closed narrower than 800px there will be a
horizontal scrollbar. If the browser is wider than 800px, the page margins
increase in width.

However, if the user increases the text size (there is NOTHING you can do
about that) the text will resize and move around the page. It sounds as
though you are using absolute positioning for the images - this is almost
always a bad mistake- the images are fixed and will NOT move with the text.
If you don't want to change the absolute positioning, then you are stuck
with what you have. One thing you cannot do is merge the page contents with
the background, unless you make the entire page into a single image -
"Yechhh" describes that option.

Again, as Trevor stated, seeing the page will enable us to give pertinent
advice without guessing at what you have on the page.
--
Ron Symonds
Microsoft MVP (Expression)
http://www.rxs-enterprises.org/fp

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R

Rocko

"Absolute positioning" seems to be the only way I can get my images & objects
to go where I want them to. What's the other option for that? I will make
practice page and try some of your tips. Here is my website:
http://www.thefeatherranch.com. As you can see, it is just a cutsy little
personal website but it's the 3rd one I 've done and I learn a little bit
more every time I do one. Thank you. ~R
 
R

Ronx

Use tables to layout the page.

I found that I could use your existing tables, and simply delete the
absolute positioning references to get a layout close to yours. Some
changes in the order of components had to be made.
See http://www.rxs-enterprises.org/tests/pages/page_one.htm


Read http://www.rxs-enterprises.org/tests/vml-graphics to see why you should
not use text boxes.

--
Ron Symonds
Microsoft MVP (Expression)
http://www.rxs-enterprises.org/fp

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R

Rocko

Thank you. I'm going to try a practice page but how do you move objects and
images without absolute positioning? Thanks for the link, too. Please send
anymore links you think might be helpful to me. What happened to good old
instruction manuals? ~R
 
R

Rocko

I tried CSS when I got the Expression software, and it really didn't sink in
so I went back to MSFP2003. Or maybe I just didn't have the patience to
learn it! I'll check out the link you sent. I like that link to the HTML
tut you sent. I'll definitely check that one out. They also have this MSFP
class that would probably do me good at
http://visual-arts-academy.com/jc-fp.html but they're not free.

I also ran across this while browsing around:
http://www.developingwebs.net/frontpage/fixedbackground.php This looks like
the answer I was looking for. Will this work?

Thank you. ~R
 
R

Ronx

No.

That fixes the background image, so it looks as if the text and images move
over the background as you scroll. You will still have the same layout
problems.

--
Ron Symonds
Microsoft MVP (Expression)
http://www.rxs-enterprises.org/fp

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