Burn VB2008 on a CD?

A

Academia

I have a computer at home with a (slow) dialup connection and a computer at
school with a fast connection.

I want to go there (it is not close) and down load Vb2008 express, burn it
into a CD, bring it home and install it on my home computer.

Someone told me it can't be done.

Is there a way of doing that?


Thanks
 
H

Herfried K. Wagner [MVP]

Academia said:
I have a computer at home with a (slow) dialup connection and a computer at
school with a fast connection.

I want to go there (it is not close) and down load Vb2008 express, burn it
into a CD, bring it home and install it on my home computer.

You can download the offline installer here:

<URL:http://www.microsoft.com/express/download/>

However, AFAIS this is a 894 MB ISO file including all of the Express
editions which doesn't fit on a CD. You'll have to burn it onto a DVD.
 
K

kimiraikkonen

I have a computer at home with a (slow) dialup connection and a computer at
school with a fast connection.

I want to go there (it is not close) and down load Vb2008 express, burn it
into a CD, bring it home and install it on my home computer.

Someone told me it can't be done.

Is there a way of doing that?

Thanks

Well, by default my guess is that all the express editions use a
special installer which is small but this installer needs to download
all the required data from the Microsoft server in order to proceed
and complete the full installation. That part would be the problem.
(web install) I was thinking in that way but finally it seems that MS
have put a DVD ISO image on that link:

http://www.microsoft.com/express/download/

Scroll down through the bottom, download the image with a fast
connection, then burn this ISO image on a blank DVD, then you'll be
able to install that DVD on your home computer i suppose.

Hope this helps.
 
A

Academia

Thanks I'll burn a dvd.
I can't figure out getting the Express software for nothing.
Must be something missing.
Why would I buy VS2008?
What is in vs2008 that is not in the Express collection you showed me?

Thanks
 
A

Academia

kimiraikkonen said:
Well, by default my guess is that all the express editions use a
special installer which is small but this installer needs to download
all the required data from the Microsoft server in order to proceed
and complete the full installation. That part would be the problem.
(web install) I was thinking in that way but finally it seems that MS
have put a DVD ISO image on that link:

http://www.microsoft.com/express/download/

Scroll down through the bottom, download the image with a fast
connection, then burn this ISO image on a blank DVD, then you'll be
able to install that DVD on your home computer i suppose.

Hope this helps.

Thanks I'll burn a DVD.
I can't figure out getting the Express software for nothing.
Must be something missing.
Why would I buy VS2008?
What is in vs2008 that is not in the Express collection you showed me?

Thanks
 
D

Dick Grier

Hi,

There are a number of differences between Visual Studio SKUs.
http://msdn2.microsoft.com/en-us/vs2008/products/bb894689.aspx
http://msdn2.microsoft.com/en-us/vs2008/products/bb894671.aspx
etc.

It the Express Edition does all that you need, then you are encouraged to
use it. I do some Compact Framework development, so I have to use (at
minimum) the Standard Edition.

Dick

--
Richard Grier, MVP
Hard & Software
Author of Visual Basic Programmer's Guide to Serial Communications, Fourth
Edition,
ISBN 1-890422-28-2 (391 pages, includes CD-ROM). July 2004, Revised March
2006.
See www.hardandsoftware.net for details and contact information.
 
F

Family Tree Mike

At least these two things about express:

1. Support for multiple language solutions is missing, so one solution
cannot contain a project written in VB and another in C#.
2. Setup and Deployment projects are not included.

Hope this helps.
 
K

kimiraikkonen

At least these two things about express:

1. Support for multiple language solutions is missing, so one solution
cannot contain a project written in VB and another in C#.
2. Setup and Deployment projects are not included.

Hope this helps.

Is there any absence of .NET's namespaces and classes in express
edition when compared to paid editions?
(I think it's very import due to functionality of applications)
 
F

Family Tree Mike

I have not run into any issues as to a difference in the framework with the
express version.

You did remind me of one issue. I have 64 bit at home. There was no tool
or option for changing the configuration away from "Any CPU". This was
important because frequently I work on an extension to an application which
is 32 bit. I need to build my dll as 32 bit. There is a workarround for
this by editing XML, but it is a difference.
 
F

Family Tree Mike

I'm not sure why I answered your question in response to my post. Long day I
guess. (See the paralel post to yours).

I have not run into any issues as to a difference in the framework with the
express version.

You did remind me of one issue. I have 64 bit at home. There was no tool
or option for changing the configuration away from "Any CPU". This was
important because frequently I work on an extension to an application which
is 32 bit. I need to build my dll as 32 bit. There is a workarround for
this by editing XML, but it is a difference.
 
K

kimiraikkonen

I'm not sure why I answered your question in response to my post. Long day I
guess. (See the paralel post to yours).

I have not run into any issues as to a difference in the framework with the
express version.

You did remind me of one issue. I have 64 bit at home. There was no tool
or option for changing the configuration away from "Any CPU". This was
important because frequently I work on an extension to an application which
is 32 bit. I need to build my dll as 32 bit. There is a workarround for
this by editing XML, but it is a difference.

Mike,
No problem :) I just wondered if there are small but important class
absences of .NET in express edition. I looked at a comparison table
about various editions of VS, didn't found particular info related to
this, only saw differences about platforms like service / framework
etc.

Are all the classes available in express within the same framework
version?
 
F

Family Tree Mike

Mike,
No problem :) I just wondered if there are small but important class
absences of .NET in express edition. I looked at a comparison table
about various editions of VS, didn't found particular info related to
this, only saw differences about platforms like service / framework
etc.

Are all the classes available in express within the same framework
version?

To the best of my knowledge, the framework and it's classes are identical to
the full Visual Studio.
 
H

Herfried K. Wagner [MVP]

kimiraikkonen said:
Is there any absence of .NET's namespaces and classes in express
edition when compared to paid editions?
(I think it's very import due to functionality of applications)

The .NET Framework is the same. However, Express editions are lacking some
project templates, designers, and custom libraries such as Crystal Reports,
which are only included in some of the "bigger" versions of VS.
 
R

rowe_newsgroups

The .NET Framework is the same.

Exactly.

In reality all you need to write a .NET application is a text editor
(such as Notepad) and vbc.exe which ships with the framework.
Visual Studio, any edition, is NOT required like it was with VB
classic. The IDE just gives us tools to make writing the programs
easier, and obviously the higher version you buy, the more tools you
get.

Thanks,

Seth Rowe [MVP]
 

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