S
spu
Where are folks getting it (torrent sites?), is it worth the trouble ^,
and isn't it time bombed or non-registrable w/o using illegal tactics?
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Colin Barnhorst
Build 6000 is not an evaluation copy. It is Vista Gold. The real McCoy.
It is no more timebombed than any other retail or OEM copy of Windows
(Vista, XP, or any other). Those qualified to download the images are
downloading exact duplicates of what will ship in the retail boxes in
January.
It is not legally available on any torrents because Microsoft does not use
torrents. If you do not qualify for Vista Gold as an MSDN or TechNet
subscriber or did not receive an invitation from Microsoft Connect to
download the freebie or are not eligible for Vista under a volume license
agreement then you must wait until the retail sku's are available on
January 30.
It is no more timebombed than any other retail or OEM copy of Windows
(Vista, XP, or any other). Those qualified to download the images are
downloading exact duplicates of what will ship in the retail boxes in
January.
It is not legally available on any torrents because Microsoft does not use
torrents. If you do not qualify for Vista Gold as an MSDN or TechNet
subscriber or did not receive an invitation from Microsoft Connect to
download the freebie or are not eligible for Vista under a volume license
agreement then you must wait until the retail sku's are available on
January 30.
P
Piet Fourie
You can download build 6000 from Rapidshare if you have an account with
them. These copies are probably only Beta and
you will need to activate it with the Key's supplied. It is a very large
file (2.59gb) but it will give you an idea what it looks like.
Build 5744 which will run for 6 months is also on the Torrents (Try:
http://www.torrentspy.com). Eventually we will have to buy the real
Software, available end January 2007.
them. These copies are probably only Beta and
you will need to activate it with the Key's supplied. It is a very large
file (2.59gb) but it will give you an idea what it looks like.
Build 5744 which will run for 6 months is also on the Torrents (Try:
http://www.torrentspy.com). Eventually we will have to buy the real
Software, available end January 2007.
H
Hillbilly
From what I have read, that one is the leaked"RTM"
R
Richard G. Harper
I have a question for you. Would you hand your computer to the next
stranger you see on the street and let them do whatever they wanted to do to
it?
Downloading illegal software is the next best thing to handing your computer
to a stranger. Maybe even better than that, since pirated software can
contain viruses, keyloggers or backdoors that will let someone else use your
computer any time they want, steal your passwords, or just time-bomb and
wipe the system after a while.
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stranger you see on the street and let them do whatever they wanted to do to
it?
Downloading illegal software is the next best thing to handing your computer
to a stranger. Maybe even better than that, since pirated software can
contain viruses, keyloggers or backdoors that will let someone else use your
computer any time they want, steal your passwords, or just time-bomb and
wipe the system after a while.
--
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Piet Fourie
As far as I know the BETA software of WINDOWS VISTA could be downloaded
without a problem. Why do you bring ILLEGAL
into this scenario? Some testers could download the RTM from MSDN. Was that
ILLEGAL ? Let's stop being wetpants and give everyone an opportunity to have
a look at Vista.
without a problem. Why do you bring ILLEGAL
into this scenario? Some testers could download the RTM from MSDN. Was that
ILLEGAL ? Let's stop being wetpants and give everyone an opportunity to have
a look at Vista.
Richard G. Harper said:I have a question for you. Would you hand your computer to the next
stranger you see on the street and let them do whatever they wanted to do
to it?
Downloading illegal software is the next best thing to handing your
computer to a stranger. Maybe even better than that, since pirated
software can contain viruses, keyloggers or backdoors that will let
someone else use your computer any time they want, steal your passwords,
or just time-bomb and wipe the system after a while.
--
Richard G. Harper [MVP Shell/User] (e-mail address removed)
* NEW! Catch my blog ... http://msmvps.com/blogs/rgharper/
* PLEASE post all messages and replies in the newsgroups
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Where are folks getting it (torrent sites?), is it worth the trouble ^,
and isn't it time bombed or non-registrable w/o using illegal tactics?
J
Josh
correct you don't want the leaked builds as those are VL media (from what i
have heard) and will not activate with the retail key you would be able to
buy in january. You are better off waiting.
have heard) and will not activate with the retail key you would be able to
buy in january. You are better off waiting.
S
Slugsie
The BETA versions of Vista were available to download by people who had
registered with Microsoft. If you hadn't registered, then you weren't
allowed to have it.
However, it's academic as build 6000 is *NOT BETA*. It is final. Finished.
Done.
As such, the only way to *LEGALLY* get it is to have an MSDN/TECHNET
account, have some form of software assurance deal with MS, or be an
invited/approved TechBeta tester.
registered with Microsoft. If you hadn't registered, then you weren't
allowed to have it.
However, it's academic as build 6000 is *NOT BETA*. It is final. Finished.
Done.
As such, the only way to *LEGALLY* get it is to have an MSDN/TECHNET
account, have some form of software assurance deal with MS, or be an
invited/approved TechBeta tester.
R
Robert wilkens
Even if it is the 'real thing', and even if there were no restrictions, no
it's not worth the trouble.
-Rob
it's not worth the trouble.
-Rob
C
Colin Barnhorst
Because 6000 is not beta.
Piet Fourie said:As far as I know the BETA software of WINDOWS VISTA could be downloaded
without a problem. Why do you bring ILLEGAL
into this scenario? Some testers could download the RTM from MSDN. Was
that ILLEGAL ? Let's stop being wetpants and give everyone an opportunity
to have a look at Vista.
Richard G. Harper said:I have a question for you. Would you hand your computer to the next
stranger you see on the street and let them do whatever they wanted to do
to it?
Downloading illegal software is the next best thing to handing your
computer to a stranger. Maybe even better than that, since pirated
software can contain viruses, keyloggers or backdoors that will let
someone else use your computer any time they want, steal your passwords,
or just time-bomb and wipe the system after a while.
--
Richard G. Harper [MVP Shell/User] (e-mail address removed)
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Where are folks getting it (torrent sites?), is it worth the trouble ^,
and isn't it time bombed or non-registrable w/o using illegal tactics?
J
Jim Fraas
Does this mean there will be NO time limited trial version available?
I had assumed there would be something like that.
I am not asking for ity FREE I think those in the CCP program should be able
to check out the RTM version.
I had assumed there would be something like that.
I am not asking for ity FREE I think those in the CCP program should be able
to check out the RTM version.
C
Colin Barnhorst
All beta and RC versions have been marked as evaluation copies in the text
in the lower right of the desktop. Build 6000 is not such an evaluation
copy nor does it have any expiration date. I have not heard anything about
trial versions of Vista as there were for XP Pro x64.
in the lower right of the desktop. Build 6000 is not such an evaluation
copy nor does it have any expiration date. I have not heard anything about
trial versions of Vista as there were for XP Pro x64.
R
Richard G. Harper
Everybody had their opportunity - but not "Build 6000" as it never was a
beta version.
And it doesn't matter WHAT version it is - any version that comes from an
unknown source could well be full of nasty surprises. If you must have a
copy get it from Microsoft. If it's not available from Microsoft then steer
clear!
--
Richard G. Harper [MVP Shell/User] (e-mail address removed)
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beta version.
And it doesn't matter WHAT version it is - any version that comes from an
unknown source could well be full of nasty surprises. If you must have a
copy get it from Microsoft. If it's not available from Microsoft then steer
clear!
--
Richard G. Harper [MVP Shell/User] (e-mail address removed)
* NEW! Catch my blog ... http://msmvps.com/blogs/rgharper/
* PLEASE post all messages and replies in the newsgroups
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G
Gregg Hommel
Colin.....
Build 6000 does not have an expiration date, however, if installed without
an activation code, you can only use it for 30 days until it becomes a
"limited" version. It must be activated within that 30 days to continue
working and to be legal.
in the lower right of the desktop. Build 6000 is not such an evaluation
copy nor does it have any expiration date. I have not heard anything
about
Build 6000 does not have an expiration date, however, if installed without
an activation code, you can only use it for 30 days until it becomes a
"limited" version. It must be activated within that 30 days to continue
working and to be legal.
C
Colin Barnhorst
You mistake the intent. XP has only one edition on the cd and you have to
enter the product key before installing. So the only issue with XP is how
long you have to activate. It is 30 days. The activation grace period is
not new to Vista.
With Vista you get all the editions on the same dvd. You can choose not to
enter any product key and still install and use the product for 30 days.
This is what is so different about Vista.
If you install Vista without entering a pk you get a list of editions and
you can select whether to install Home, Home Premium, Business, or Ultimate.
When you do activate you must enter the correct pk for the edition you are
running or you have to reinstall and change editions.
enter the product key before installing. So the only issue with XP is how
long you have to activate. It is 30 days. The activation grace period is
not new to Vista.
With Vista you get all the editions on the same dvd. You can choose not to
enter any product key and still install and use the product for 30 days.
This is what is so different about Vista.
If you install Vista without entering a pk you get a list of editions and
you can select whether to install Home, Home Premium, Business, or Ultimate.
When you do activate you must enter the correct pk for the edition you are
running or you have to reinstall and change editions.
C
Chad Harris
Vista Business will be available at Comp USA in a week along with Office
2007 Small Business. Upgrades to these also will be available.
www.msnbc.msn.com/id/15703616/
If you are in the small country as some of these blokes are called the
USA--the one whose moron executive branch arrogantly presides over the
killing of children and family not their own day after day without lifting a
finger to stop it, it will be in stores with the esoteric name Comp USA a
week from today in the form Vista Buisiness which I have learned the
americans pronounce biz ness.
There will also be editions of Office 2007 Small Bizness in Comp USA on
November 30 for those of you who want to have the satisfaction of taking
home that shiny Vista or Office package right away who haven't been given
the freebies by MSFT or taken them by other means.
Microsoft to sell Vista early at CompUSA
Deal will allow retailer to see operating system, Office, two months early
The Associated Press
Updated: 5:21 p.m. ET Nov 13, 2006
DALLAS - Microsoft Corp. will sell licenses for its new Windows Vista
operating system and Office 2007 productivity suite through CompUSA stores
Nov. 30, two months before the products go on sale at other retailers.
The world's largest software company said Monday that customers will be able
to buy licensing agreements to run Windows Vista Business and Microsoft
Office Small Business 2007 on five or more personal computers.
(MSNBC.com is a joint venture of Microsoft and NBC Universal News.)
The move will put small businesses on the same footing as larger rivals, who
also will be able to buy the new operating system and business software
ahead of the general release scheduled for Jan. 30.
The companies declined to discuss financial terms of their agreement. A
Microsoft executive said the Redmond, Wash.-based company expects to sell
Vista licensing agreements through other retailers next year.
This is the first time Microsoft has allowed small business customers to buy
licenses for new operating system before the general public, said Cindy
Bates, general manager of small business sales at the software company.
"Over 50 percent of our small business customers shop (for software) in
retail stores," Bates said. "Last time, if you walked into store you were
only able to buy the boxed product, which is more expensive and less easy to
manage."
Once inside a CompUSA store, small-business customers will need to speak to
a sales representative to buy a license agreement. That interaction will
give the store and Microsoft a chance to sell the customer other products,
such as the software company's support program.
Bates said licensing several PCs would be at least 10 percent cheaper than
if a small business owner simply bought boxes containing discs with Vista
and the office software. The suggested retail price for a boxed copy of
Windows Vista Business is $299, or $199 for an upgrade from a previous
version. The small-business edition of Office 2007 in a box carries a
suggested price of $449 ($279 for an upgrade).
Bill Maddox, an executive vice president at Dallas-based CompUSA, said the
launch of Windows XP was "huge" for privately held CompUSA, "and we expect
this to be the same."
Bates declined to discuss negotiations between Microsoft and CompUSA, but
said at least two other retailers were aware of the agreement before it was
announced Monday.
"They were aware of the opportunity, and I think they will pay a lot of
attention to this," she said, adding that it was "not really a bidding
situation."
2007 Small Business. Upgrades to these also will be available.
www.msnbc.msn.com/id/15703616/
If you are in the small country as some of these blokes are called the
USA--the one whose moron executive branch arrogantly presides over the
killing of children and family not their own day after day without lifting a
finger to stop it, it will be in stores with the esoteric name Comp USA a
week from today in the form Vista Buisiness which I have learned the
americans pronounce biz ness.
There will also be editions of Office 2007 Small Bizness in Comp USA on
November 30 for those of you who want to have the satisfaction of taking
home that shiny Vista or Office package right away who haven't been given
the freebies by MSFT or taken them by other means.
Microsoft to sell Vista early at CompUSA
Deal will allow retailer to see operating system, Office, two months early
The Associated Press
Updated: 5:21 p.m. ET Nov 13, 2006
DALLAS - Microsoft Corp. will sell licenses for its new Windows Vista
operating system and Office 2007 productivity suite through CompUSA stores
Nov. 30, two months before the products go on sale at other retailers.
The world's largest software company said Monday that customers will be able
to buy licensing agreements to run Windows Vista Business and Microsoft
Office Small Business 2007 on five or more personal computers.
(MSNBC.com is a joint venture of Microsoft and NBC Universal News.)
The move will put small businesses on the same footing as larger rivals, who
also will be able to buy the new operating system and business software
ahead of the general release scheduled for Jan. 30.
The companies declined to discuss financial terms of their agreement. A
Microsoft executive said the Redmond, Wash.-based company expects to sell
Vista licensing agreements through other retailers next year.
This is the first time Microsoft has allowed small business customers to buy
licenses for new operating system before the general public, said Cindy
Bates, general manager of small business sales at the software company.
"Over 50 percent of our small business customers shop (for software) in
retail stores," Bates said. "Last time, if you walked into store you were
only able to buy the boxed product, which is more expensive and less easy to
manage."
Once inside a CompUSA store, small-business customers will need to speak to
a sales representative to buy a license agreement. That interaction will
give the store and Microsoft a chance to sell the customer other products,
such as the software company's support program.
Bates said licensing several PCs would be at least 10 percent cheaper than
if a small business owner simply bought boxes containing discs with Vista
and the office software. The suggested retail price for a boxed copy of
Windows Vista Business is $299, or $199 for an upgrade from a previous
version. The small-business edition of Office 2007 in a box carries a
suggested price of $449 ($279 for an upgrade).
Bill Maddox, an executive vice president at Dallas-based CompUSA, said the
launch of Windows XP was "huge" for privately held CompUSA, "and we expect
this to be the same."
Bates declined to discuss negotiations between Microsoft and CompUSA, but
said at least two other retailers were aware of the agreement before it was
announced Monday.
"They were aware of the opportunity, and I think they will pay a lot of
attention to this," she said, adding that it was "not really a bidding
situation."
C
Chad Harris
People do that to me everyday when I have time, and the computer gets a lot
better faster. What I want to do to it is make whatever doesn't work work.
If this premise you have is so, that downloading illegal software is the
next best thing to handing computer to stranger why is it that your country
the US is a systemic nation of theves with parents stealing as well as their
children in a movement that has been vibrant for years.
In your country the US when keystorkes were monitored briefly of the federal
judges in your country, the AOC determined that 6% of the judges chambers
had people in them who were common theives stealing downloads, many of them
falling under the classification of pornography which your Supreme Court
defined ridiculously as something you would know if you saw.
The ironic specter is that the same judges whose chambers and children and
wives steal, and who also steal via P2P, preside over cases where the RIAA
has hauled in about 30,000-35,000 and obtained judgements against the
largest P2P downloaders of music for $3500.
Currently in your country these stolen downloads are tracked by a company
called Big Champaign like that stuff people sometimes drink, and you are
raising a generation of common petty thieves--the MSFT MVPs and executives
of the future who will bring their theiving ways into the enterprises of
America.
There also is a staggering exponential increase in the activity of these
theves growing up in America for papers that are due in high schools and
colleges and grad schools throughout that country.
The practice extends to other countries as well.
Market research firm Big Champaign reports that the amount of traffic on P2P
networks doubled between Setpember 2003 (when the lawsuits began) and June
2005
www.futureofmusicbook.com/music_publishing/index.html
CH
better faster. What I want to do to it is make whatever doesn't work work.
If this premise you have is so, that downloading illegal software is the
next best thing to handing computer to stranger why is it that your country
the US is a systemic nation of theves with parents stealing as well as their
children in a movement that has been vibrant for years.
In your country the US when keystorkes were monitored briefly of the federal
judges in your country, the AOC determined that 6% of the judges chambers
had people in them who were common theives stealing downloads, many of them
falling under the classification of pornography which your Supreme Court
defined ridiculously as something you would know if you saw.
The ironic specter is that the same judges whose chambers and children and
wives steal, and who also steal via P2P, preside over cases where the RIAA
has hauled in about 30,000-35,000 and obtained judgements against the
largest P2P downloaders of music for $3500.
Currently in your country these stolen downloads are tracked by a company
called Big Champaign like that stuff people sometimes drink, and you are
raising a generation of common petty thieves--the MSFT MVPs and executives
of the future who will bring their theiving ways into the enterprises of
America.
There also is a staggering exponential increase in the activity of these
theves growing up in America for papers that are due in high schools and
colleges and grad schools throughout that country.
The practice extends to other countries as well.
Market research firm Big Champaign reports that the amount of traffic on P2P
networks doubled between Setpember 2003 (when the lawsuits began) and June
2005
www.futureofmusicbook.com/music_publishing/index.html
CH
Richard G. Harper said:I have a question for you. Would you hand your computer to the next
stranger you see on the street and let them do whatever they wanted to do
to it?
Downloading illegal software is the next best thing to handing your
computer to a stranger. Maybe even better than that, since pirated
software can contain viruses, keyloggers or backdoors that will let
someone else use your computer any time they want, steal your passwords,
or just time-bomb and wipe the system after a while.
--
Richard G. Harper [MVP Shell/User] (e-mail address removed)
* NEW! Catch my blog ... http://msmvps.com/blogs/rgharper/
* PLEASE post all messages and replies in the newsgroups
* The Website - http://rgharper.mvps.org/
* HELP us help YOU ... http://www.dts-l.org/goodpost.htm
Where are folks getting it (torrent sites?), is it worth the trouble ^,
and isn't it time bombed or non-registrable w/o using illegal tactics?
C
Chad Harris
It occurs to me Mr. Harper, that in your nation of thieves, although I am
not condoning illegal behavior, that the reality is they choose to be
theives and continue this practice and it is rising as a pandemic
exponentially every year. Peopl think that it's perfectly okay if done
from the context of cybercomfort rather than to bash in a store window and
brandish a gun and empty the cash register, that perhaps if these "nasty
surprises" are around it might be prudent to scan the downloads, update all
hotfixes, have a NAT firewall and a competent software firewall, perhaps the
MMC snap-in for the Vista firewall, and update antivirus definitions
regularly to get into that 1% zone Gartner says don't get malicious ware if
they take the above mentioned precautions.
www.timesonline.typepad.com/technology/2006/04/high_and_rising.html
www.ifpi.org/content/section_news/20051115.html
CH
not condoning illegal behavior, that the reality is they choose to be
theives and continue this practice and it is rising as a pandemic
exponentially every year. Peopl think that it's perfectly okay if done
from the context of cybercomfort rather than to bash in a store window and
brandish a gun and empty the cash register, that perhaps if these "nasty
surprises" are around it might be prudent to scan the downloads, update all
hotfixes, have a NAT firewall and a competent software firewall, perhaps the
MMC snap-in for the Vista firewall, and update antivirus definitions
regularly to get into that 1% zone Gartner says don't get malicious ware if
they take the above mentioned precautions.
www.timesonline.typepad.com/technology/2006/04/high_and_rising.html
www.ifpi.org/content/section_news/20051115.html
CH
Richard G. Harper said:Everybody had their opportunity - but not "Build 6000" as it never was a
beta version.
And it doesn't matter WHAT version it is - any version that comes from an
unknown source could well be full of nasty surprises. If you must have a
copy get it from Microsoft. If it's not available from Microsoft then
steer clear!
--
Richard G. Harper [MVP Shell/User] (e-mail address removed)
* NEW! Catch my blog ... http://msmvps.com/blogs/rgharper/
* PLEASE post all messages and replies in the newsgroups
* The Website - http://rgharper.mvps.org/
* HELP us help YOU ... http://www.dts-l.org/goodpost.htm
Piet Fourie said:As far as I know the BETA software of WINDOWS VISTA could be downloaded
without a problem. Why do you bring ILLEGAL
into this scenario? Some testers could download the RTM from MSDN. Was
that ILLEGAL ? Let's stop being wetpants and give everyone an opportunity
to have a look at Vista.
N
Nina DiBoy
Kristan said:Windows Vista RTM (Build 6000) is currently available legally to TechNet
and MSDN subscribers as well as select technical beta testers and
companies with Software Assurance agreements.
Where is the law that says it is not legally available to anyone else?
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