Bug? - Compress picture in PowerPoint 2007...

[Guest]

This query - or perhaps bug (or intercomatability problem) report refers to
PowerPoint 2007 and files created in earlier version of PowerPoint.
I came across a file, created, I think, in PowerPoint 2000, that was too
large for its own good (30 slides, 60 Mb!) and tried, in my version of
PowerPoint 2007, to reduce the file size to something reasonable by using the
compress picture option on the save as tools options. This did nothing and so
I started experimenting with the file in more detail but soon gave up and
went to find a computer with PowerPoint 2002 which immediately compressed the
file to less than 1/50th (1.3 Mb) of its original file.
The cause, as far as I can work out... It would appear that the original
file had all the (jpg) images inserted form Microsoft Photo Editor and these
are therefore coming up as Microsoft Photo Editor Objects in PowerPoint.
PowerPoint 2002 still allows these files to be worked with and compressed but
PowerPoint 2007 does not bring up the "picture" menu (bringing up the
"drawing tools" menu instead) and does not allow these files to be compressed
- even individually! As I do not have Photo Editor installed on my machine,
nothing happens when I select the "convert" option from "Photo Editor Photo
Object" (on the context menu for the object) (though, as an aside, I have
just checked on the machine with PowerPoint 2002 and Photo Editor and there
the convert just brings up a convert menu that does not allow me to convert
to any other format either)...
Is this not a bug or incompatibility? PowerPoint 2002 allows these images to
be compressed and therefore it would appear that this is a legitimate
operation for the format in question but it is obviously not recognised by
PowerPoint 2007... Is there any other way around this problem (apart from not
sing Photo Editor to insert the images)? I can see it may come up in future
and I cannot guarantee always having access to a machine with previous
versions of the program running on it.
Any suggestions o comments would be gratefully received.
Best wishes, Boris.

 

[Geetesh Bajaj]

PowerPoint's compression feature works on inserted pictures. And since
PowerPoint 2007 had no way of communicating wth a Photo Editor object (Photo
Editor was not installed on that system), it could do nothing about the file
size.


--
Geetesh Bajaj
Author of Cutting Edge PowerPoint for Dummies
http://www.cuttingedgeppt.com





And

 

[Guest]

Thanks Geetesh.
But as the files are really jpg files (with a container to say they are
Photo Editor Objects wrapped around them), and given that Photo Editor is a
Microsoft program issued with previous releases of Office, should not
PowerPoint have recognized the tru format of the images and allowed them to
be compressed? Indeed, I have just tried the same file on a machine with
Office XP, on which I have removed the Photo Editor program. PowerPoint XP is
happy to compress the files, and, when it does so, it is also cleaver enough
to correct the files back to being "pictures" rather than "objects"... So, it
would appear that the issue is not related to the presence or absence of
Photo Editor but purely one either of PowerPoint being a bit slow on the
uptake in recognizing the files correctly or of Microsoft being deliberately
difficult - or perhaps it is an oversight that can (should?) be fixed...
Best wishes, Boris.

 

[Echo S]

Sounds to me as if previous versions of PPT will compress OLE objects,
whereas PPT 2007 won't. To tell the truth, I didn't realize the earlier
versions would do this on their own.

 

[Guest]

Hi all

I'm fascinated by this discussion and have been off experimenting...

Compress pictures doesn't do a thing for me in 2007. Not a thing. Same file
size, everything. Pictures inserted through insert -> picture.
Compress pictures does work in 2003 (why did I not know that existed? Why?)
but not as well as cut -> eidt -> paste special -> jpeg which results in a
file size 1/4 of that using compress pictures
Cut -> Home -> Paste -> Paste -> Special -> jpeg works a treat in 2007
If compress pics works for you in 2007 in files without the OLE objects
might round-tripping work? Complete guess but might be worth a try:
http://www.pptfaq.com/FAQ00526.htm

Not a perfect solution as it's a bit of a hassle but once you get into the
swing of it it doesn't take long. Oh and the pics always come back to the
centre of the slide but you can't have everyting.

Lucy
--
MOS Master Instructor
www.aneasiertomorrow.com.au

If this post answered your question please let us know as others may be
interested too

Sounds to me as if previous versions of PPT will compress OLE objects,
whereas PPT 2007 won't. To tell the truth, I didn't realize the earlier
versions would do this on their own.

--
Echo [MS PPT MVP] http://www.echosvoice.com
What's new in PPT 2007? http://www.echosvoice.com/2007.htm
Fixing PowerPoint Annoyances http://www.oreilly.com/catalog/powerpointannoy/

Thanks Geetesh.
But as the files are really jpg files (with a container to say they are
Photo Editor Objects wrapped around them), and given that Photo Editor is
a
Microsoft program issued with previous releases of Office, should not
PowerPoint have recognized the tru format of the images and allowed them
to
be compressed? Indeed, I have just tried the same file on a machine with
Office XP, on which I have removed the Photo Editor program. PowerPoint XP
is
happy to compress the files, and, when it does so, it is also cleaver
enough
to correct the files back to being "pictures" rather than "objects"... So,
it
would appear that the issue is not related to the presence or absence of
Photo Editor but purely one either of PowerPoint being a bit slow on the
uptake in recognizing the files correctly or of Microsoft being
deliberately
difficult - or perhaps it is an oversight that can (should?) be fixed...
Best wishes, Boris.

 

[Geetesh Bajaj]

I do agree that's surprising -- but I guess PowerPoint 2002 can relate to
Photo Editor better since they are both part of Office XP.


--
Geetesh Bajaj
Author of Cutting Edge PowerPoint for Dummies
http://www.cuttingedgeppt.com

 

[Echo S]

Hm. Perhaps it's because the compress pictures feature is on by default in
PPT -- which means that when you save the file the first time, the pictures
are automatically compressed and so if you're checking the file size after
the first save, then sure, you won't see a change between that and
compressing and saving again.

(Unfortunately, this still doesn't explain the original poster's problem
with OLE objects and the different behavior in 2007 and 2003. Nuts.)

Compress pictures does work in 2003 (why did I not know that existed?
Why?)

<chuckle> Totally understandable; compress pictures is well hidden in 2003
and previous versions.

Round-tripping is not a bad idea, but you want to be aware that
round-tripping in PPT 2007 won't necessarily preserve everything: the "save
as html" hasn't changed since the 2002/2003 days, but PPT 2007 has changed
dramatically. (Which is probably why the pix come back in the middle of the
page. That's not too bad, but there may be worse things happening to other
slides....)

--
Echo [MS PPT MVP] http://www.echosvoice.com
What's new in PPT 2007? http://www.echosvoice.com/2007.htm
Fixing PowerPoint Annoyances http://www.oreilly.com/catalog/powerpointannoy/

Hi all

I'm fascinated by this discussion and have been off experimenting...

Compress pictures doesn't do a thing for me in 2007. Not a thing. Same
file
size, everything. Pictures inserted through insert -> picture.
Compress pictures does work in 2003 (why did I not know that existed?
Why?)
but not as well as cut -> eidt -> paste special -> jpeg which results in a
file size 1/4 of that using compress pictures
Cut -> Home -> Paste -> Paste -> Special -> jpeg works a treat in 2007
If compress pics works for you in 2007 in files without the OLE objects
might round-tripping work? Complete guess but might be worth a try:
http://www.pptfaq.com/FAQ00526.htm

Not a perfect solution as it's a bit of a hassle but once you get into the
swing of it it doesn't take long. Oh and the pics always come back to the
centre of the slide but you can't have everyting.

Lucy
--
MOS Master Instructor
www.aneasiertomorrow.com.au

If this post answered your question please let us know as others may be
interested too

Sounds to me as if previous versions of PPT will compress OLE objects,
whereas PPT 2007 won't. To tell the truth, I didn't realize the earlier
versions would do this on their own.

--
Echo [MS PPT MVP] http://www.echosvoice.com
What's new in PPT 2007? http://www.echosvoice.com/2007.htm
Fixing PowerPoint Annoyances
http://www.oreilly.com/catalog/powerpointannoy/

Thanks Geetesh.
But as the files are really jpg files (with a container to say they are
Photo Editor Objects wrapped around them), and given that Photo Editor
is
a
Microsoft program issued with previous releases of Office, should not
PowerPoint have recognized the tru format of the images and allowed
them
to
be compressed? Indeed, I have just tried the same file on a machine
with
Office XP, on which I have removed the Photo Editor program. PowerPoint
XP
is
happy to compress the files, and, when it does so, it is also cleaver
enough
to correct the files back to being "pictures" rather than "objects"...
So,
it
would appear that the issue is not related to the presence or absence
of
Photo Editor but purely one either of PowerPoint being a bit slow on
the
uptake in recognizing the files correctly or of Microsoft being
deliberately
difficult - or perhaps it is an oversight that can (should?) be
fixed...
Best wishes, Boris.

:

PowerPoint's compression feature works on inserted pictures. And since
PowerPoint 2007 had no way of communicating wth a Photo Editor object
(Photo
Editor was not installed on that system), it could do nothing about
the
file
size.


--
Geetesh Bajaj
Author of Cutting Edge PowerPoint for Dummies
http://www.cuttingedgeppt.com





And

This query - or perhaps bug (or intercomatability problem) report
refers
to
PowerPoint 2007 and files created in earlier version of PowerPoint.
I came across a file, created, I think, in PowerPoint 2000, that was
too
large for its own good (30 slides, 60 Mb!) and tried, in my version
of
PowerPoint 2007, to reduce the file size to something reasonable by
using
the
compress picture option on the save as tools options. This did
nothing
and
so
I started experimenting with the file in more detail but soon gave
up
and
went to find a computer with PowerPoint 2002 which immediately
compressed
the
file to less than 1/50th (1.3 Mb) of its original file.
The cause, as far as I can work out... It would appear that the
original
file had all the (jpg) images inserted form Microsoft Photo Editor
and
these
are therefore coming up as Microsoft Photo Editor Objects in
PowerPoint.
PowerPoint 2002 still allows these files to be worked with and
compressed
but
PowerPoint 2007 does not bring up the "picture" menu (bringing up
the
"drawing tools" menu instead) and does not allow these files to be
compressed
- even individually! As I do not have Photo Editor installed on my
machine,
nothing happens when I select the "convert" option from "Photo
Editor
Photo
Object" (on the context menu for the object) (though, as an aside, I
have
just checked on the machine with PowerPoint 2002 and Photo Editor
and
there
the convert just brings up a convert menu that does not allow me to
convert
to any other format either)...
Is this not a bug or incompatibility? PowerPoint 2002 allows these
images
to
be compressed and therefore it would appear that this is a
legitimate
operation for the format in question but it is obviously not
recognised
by
PowerPoint 2007... Is there any other way around this problem (apart
from
not
sing Photo Editor to insert the images)? I can see it may come up in
future
and I cannot guarantee always having access to a machine with
previous
versions of the program running on it.
Any suggestions o comments would be gratefully received.
Best wishes, Boris.

 

[Patrick Schmid [MVP]]

I don't have Photo Editor here, but I gave it a shot with Word. What I
did was insert a picture into Word 2007 and add some text, then select
all and copy it. I inserted it into PPT with Paste Special as Word
Document Object. So instead of having a Photo Editor OLE Object, I had a
Word OLE object.
I saved the file in the 2007 file format (pptx) and then closed PPT. As
the new file format is just a zip file with a different extension, I
renamed it to .zip and took a look.
Inside the zip file I found a Microsoft_Office_Word_Document1.docx file,
which is the actual Word document containing the picture and my text.
The file size was what I had expected (403 KB, roughly the size of my
jpg file).
In addition though, there was an EMF file (Enhanced Metadata File I
believe, a very bulky picture format) that contained the picture plus my
bit of Word text as well. Basically, this was an image of the Word
document. PPT needs to store that, because the Word document can only be
rendered if Word is installed. Without Word, PPT needs to still be able
to show the object, and for that purpose it needs an image of it. That
particular image file though was 8 MB.
The entire PPTX file was 4.35 MB due to the zip compression.
The same presentation saved as PPT from PPT 2007 was 4.43 MB.
The same presentation opened and then saved as from PPT 2003 was 4.39
MB.
The same Word object inserted directly into PPT 2003 and then saved,
resulted in a 4.03 MB file.
I then opened that presentation in PPT 2007 and saved it as PPTX. The
EMF file was there as well, but it only was 4 MB big.
The 4 MB EMF was 1956x1678 and with 96 DPI.
The 8 MB EMF was 1956x1678 and with 96 DPI.
Maybe 2007 uses a different compression algorithm (or none at all) for
EMF files?

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Hm. Perhaps it's because the compress pictures feature is on by default in
PPT -- which means that when you save the file the first time, the pictures
are automatically compressed and so if you're checking the file size after
the first save, then sure, you won't see a change between that and
compressing and saving again.

(Unfortunately, this still doesn't explain the original poster's problem
with OLE objects and the different behavior in 2007 and 2003. Nuts.)

Compress pictures does work in 2003 (why did I not know that existed?
Why?)

<chuckle> Totally understandable; compress pictures is well hidden in 2003
and previous versions.

Round-tripping is not a bad idea, but you want to be aware that
round-tripping in PPT 2007 won't necessarily preserve everything: the "save
as html" hasn't changed since the 2002/2003 days, but PPT 2007 has changed
dramatically. (Which is probably why the pix come back in the middle of the
page. That's not too bad, but there may be worse things happening to other
slides....)

--
Echo [MS PPT MVP] http://www.echosvoice.com
What's new in PPT 2007? http://www.echosvoice.com/2007.htm
Fixing PowerPoint Annoyances http://www.oreilly.com/catalog/powerpointannoy/

Hi all

I'm fascinated by this discussion and have been off experimenting...

Compress pictures doesn't do a thing for me in 2007. Not a thing. Same
file
size, everything. Pictures inserted through insert -> picture.
Compress pictures does work in 2003 (why did I not know that existed?
Why?)
but not as well as cut -> eidt -> paste special -> jpeg which results in a
file size 1/4 of that using compress pictures
Cut -> Home -> Paste -> Paste -> Special -> jpeg works a treat in 2007
If compress pics works for you in 2007 in files without the OLE objects
might round-tripping work? Complete guess but might be worth a try:
http://www.pptfaq.com/FAQ00526.htm

Not a perfect solution as it's a bit of a hassle but once you get into the
swing of it it doesn't take long. Oh and the pics always come back to the
centre of the slide but you can't have everyting.

Lucy
--
MOS Master Instructor
www.aneasiertomorrow.com.au

If this post answered your question please let us know as others may be
interested too

Sounds to me as if previous versions of PPT will compress OLE objects,
whereas PPT 2007 won't. To tell the truth, I didn't realize the earlier
versions would do this on their own.

--
Echo [MS PPT MVP] http://www.echosvoice.com
What's new in PPT 2007? http://www.echosvoice.com/2007.htm
Fixing PowerPoint Annoyances
http://www.oreilly.com/catalog/powerpointannoy/


Thanks Geetesh.
But as the files are really jpg files (with a container to say they are
Photo Editor Objects wrapped around them), and given that Photo Editor
is
a
Microsoft program issued with previous releases of Office, should not
PowerPoint have recognized the tru format of the images and allowed
them
to
be compressed? Indeed, I have just tried the same file on a machine
with
Office XP, on which I have removed the Photo Editor program. PowerPoint
XP
is
happy to compress the files, and, when it does so, it is also cleaver
enough
to correct the files back to being "pictures" rather than "objects"...
So,
it
would appear that the issue is not related to the presence or absence
of
Photo Editor but purely one either of PowerPoint being a bit slow on
the
uptake in recognizing the files correctly or of Microsoft being
deliberately
difficult - or perhaps it is an oversight that can (should?) be
fixed...
Best wishes, Boris.

:

PowerPoint's compression feature works on inserted pictures. And since
PowerPoint 2007 had no way of communicating wth a Photo Editor object
(Photo
Editor was not installed on that system), it could do nothing about
the
file
size.


--
Geetesh Bajaj
Author of Cutting Edge PowerPoint for Dummies
http://www.cuttingedgeppt.com





And

This query - or perhaps bug (or intercomatability problem) report
refers
to
PowerPoint 2007 and files created in earlier version of PowerPoint.
I came across a file, created, I think, in PowerPoint 2000, that was
too
large for its own good (30 slides, 60 Mb!) and tried, in my version
of
PowerPoint 2007, to reduce the file size to something reasonable by
using
the
compress picture option on the save as tools options. This did
nothing
and
so
I started experimenting with the file in more detail but soon gave
up
and
went to find a computer with PowerPoint 2002 which immediately
compressed
the
file to less than 1/50th (1.3 Mb) of its original file.
The cause, as far as I can work out... It would appear that the
original
file had all the (jpg) images inserted form Microsoft Photo Editor
and
these
are therefore coming up as Microsoft Photo Editor Objects in
PowerPoint.
PowerPoint 2002 still allows these files to be worked with and
compressed
but
PowerPoint 2007 does not bring up the "picture" menu (bringing up
the
"drawing tools" menu instead) and does not allow these files to be
compressed
- even individually! As I do not have Photo Editor installed on my
machine,
nothing happens when I select the "convert" option from "Photo
Editor
Photo
Object" (on the context menu for the object) (though, as an aside, I
have
just checked on the machine with PowerPoint 2002 and Photo Editor
and
there
the convert just brings up a convert menu that does not allow me to
convert
to any other format either)...
Is this not a bug or incompatibility? PowerPoint 2002 allows these
images
to
be compressed and therefore it would appear that this is a
legitimate
operation for the format in question but it is obviously not
recognised
by
PowerPoint 2007... Is there any other way around this problem (apart
from
not
sing Photo Editor to insert the images)? I can see it may come up in
future
and I cannot guarantee always having access to a machine with
previous
versions of the program running on it.
Any suggestions o comments would be gratefully received.
Best wishes, Boris.

 

[Guest]

Hi Echo,
Just to add to all the discussion - the file I was working on was not mine
and had been created in PowerPoint 2000 (not sure if this had the "compress
pictures" option). When I went back to a machine with PowerPoint XP, and
compressed the pictures to screen resolution, the file size reduced
dramatically (down to perhaps 1/50th). On my version of PowerPoint 2007,
compress pictures was on by default (I have now switched it off) but was set
to compress to 200 dpi... I tend to work on my pictures for optimum
resolution outside of PowerPoint but this can be time consuming and tedious.
It would be a great shame if PowerPoint 2007 were not to have this function
or if it does not work well...
As for the PowerPoint file storing the image imported from Word twice...
well, that does sound like total overkill! Surly it should be able to
interpret the word document to be the image as the original jpg and the text
as text....
My guess is the feature is not yet quite up to spec and perhaps there will
be an improvement at some later stage. Oh yes, I also noticed that the
fidelity in animations and text size /position is not that great when
converting from PowerPoint 2007 to earlier versions... It is OK if you play
the ppt or pps file on a computer with PowerPoint 2007 but, if you go to a
machine that does not have this version, or if you use the PowerPoint viewer
on a machine that does not have this version, text alignments may well be
lost, as are some animation sequences and some animation orders... And I was
not selecting animation types not supported in earlier versions so this, too,
is a bit disappointing (I am thinking of presentations I make to give in
third party locations where they may not have PowerPoint 2007 and my
presentation saved as a pps or ppt - or even pptx with the compatibility pack
to allow opening it on PowerPoint XP - going totally to pot! I guess
Microsoft would suggest having both versions of PowerPoint installed but that
would not be a solution for me!).
Thanks to all those who have commented and given suggestions.
Best wises, Boris

Hm. Perhaps it's because the compress pictures feature is on by default in
PPT -- which means that when you save the file the first time, the pictures
are automatically compressed and so if you're checking the file size after
the first save, then sure, you won't see a change between that and
compressing and saving again.

(Unfortunately, this still doesn't explain the original poster's problem
with OLE objects and the different behavior in 2007 and 2003. Nuts.)

Compress pictures does work in 2003 (why did I not know that existed?
Why?)

<chuckle> Totally understandable; compress pictures is well hidden in 2003
and previous versions.

Round-tripping is not a bad idea, but you want to be aware that
round-tripping in PPT 2007 won't necessarily preserve everything: the "save
as html" hasn't changed since the 2002/2003 days, but PPT 2007 has changed
dramatically. (Which is probably why the pix come back in the middle of the
page. That's not too bad, but there may be worse things happening to other
slides....)

--
Echo [MS PPT MVP] http://www.echosvoice.com
What's new in PPT 2007? http://www.echosvoice.com/2007.htm
Fixing PowerPoint Annoyances http://www.oreilly.com/catalog/powerpointannoy/

Hi all

I'm fascinated by this discussion and have been off experimenting...

Compress pictures doesn't do a thing for me in 2007. Not a thing. Same
file
size, everything. Pictures inserted through insert -> picture.
Compress pictures does work in 2003 (why did I not know that existed?
Why?)
but not as well as cut -> eidt -> paste special -> jpeg which results in a
file size 1/4 of that using compress pictures
Cut -> Home -> Paste -> Paste -> Special -> jpeg works a treat in 2007
If compress pics works for you in 2007 in files without the OLE objects
might round-tripping work? Complete guess but might be worth a try:
http://www.pptfaq.com/FAQ00526.htm

Not a perfect solution as it's a bit of a hassle but once you get into the
swing of it it doesn't take long. Oh and the pics always come back to the
centre of the slide but you can't have everyting.

Lucy
--
MOS Master Instructor
www.aneasiertomorrow.com.au

If this post answered your question please let us know as others may be
interested too

Sounds to me as if previous versions of PPT will compress OLE objects,
whereas PPT 2007 won't. To tell the truth, I didn't realize the earlier
versions would do this on their own.

--
Echo [MS PPT MVP] http://www.echosvoice.com
What's new in PPT 2007? http://www.echosvoice.com/2007.htm
Fixing PowerPoint Annoyances
http://www.oreilly.com/catalog/powerpointannoy/


Thanks Geetesh.
But as the files are really jpg files (with a container to say they are
Photo Editor Objects wrapped around them), and given that Photo Editor
is
a
Microsoft program issued with previous releases of Office, should not
PowerPoint have recognized the tru format of the images and allowed
them
to
be compressed? Indeed, I have just tried the same file on a machine
with
Office XP, on which I have removed the Photo Editor program. PowerPoint
XP
is
happy to compress the files, and, when it does so, it is also cleaver
enough
to correct the files back to being "pictures" rather than "objects"...
So,
it
would appear that the issue is not related to the presence or absence
of
Photo Editor but purely one either of PowerPoint being a bit slow on
the
uptake in recognizing the files correctly or of Microsoft being
deliberately
difficult - or perhaps it is an oversight that can (should?) be
fixed...
Best wishes, Boris.

:

PowerPoint's compression feature works on inserted pictures. And since
PowerPoint 2007 had no way of communicating wth a Photo Editor object
(Photo
Editor was not installed on that system), it could do nothing about
the
file
size.


--
Geetesh Bajaj
Author of Cutting Edge PowerPoint for Dummies
http://www.cuttingedgeppt.com





And

This query - or perhaps bug (or intercomatability problem) report
refers
to
PowerPoint 2007 and files created in earlier version of PowerPoint.
I came across a file, created, I think, in PowerPoint 2000, that was
too
large for its own good (30 slides, 60 Mb!) and tried, in my version
of
PowerPoint 2007, to reduce the file size to something reasonable by
using
the
compress picture option on the save as tools options. This did
nothing
and
so
I started experimenting with the file in more detail but soon gave
up
and
went to find a computer with PowerPoint 2002 which immediately
compressed
the
file to less than 1/50th (1.3 Mb) of its original file.
The cause, as far as I can work out... It would appear that the
original
file had all the (jpg) images inserted form Microsoft Photo Editor
and
these
are therefore coming up as Microsoft Photo Editor Objects in
PowerPoint.
PowerPoint 2002 still allows these files to be worked with and
compressed
but
PowerPoint 2007 does not bring up the "picture" menu (bringing up
the
"drawing tools" menu instead) and does not allow these files to be
compressed
- even individually! As I do not have Photo Editor installed on my
machine,
nothing happens when I select the "convert" option from "Photo
Editor
Photo
Object" (on the context menu for the object) (though, as an aside, I
have
just checked on the machine with PowerPoint 2002 and Photo Editor
and
there
the convert just brings up a convert menu that does not allow me to
convert
to any other format either)...
Is this not a bug or incompatibility? PowerPoint 2002 allows these
images
to
be compressed and therefore it would appear that this is a
legitimate
operation for the format in question but it is obviously not
recognised
by
PowerPoint 2007... Is there any other way around this problem (apart
from
not
sing Photo Editor to insert the images)? I can see it may come up in
future
and I cannot guarantee always having access to a machine with
previous
versions of the program running on it.
Any suggestions o comments would be gratefully received.
Best wishes, Boris.

 

[Patrick Schmid [MVP]]

As for the PowerPoint file storing the image imported from Word
twice...

well, that does sound like total overkill! Surly it should be able to
interpret the word document to be the image as the original jpg and the text
as text....

No, not if you insert it as OLE object. In that case, it can't. OLE
stands for Object Linking & Embedding and it means that an entire object
is inserted from another program as is. That's the whole premise of that
technology.
The default paste from Word into PPT by the way is in HTML, which it
then breaks apart as you suggest. I didn't use the default one though,
because I wanted to test the OLE case.

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[Guest]

Thanks for the clarrification, Patrick. Makes perfect sense really... but it
would be nice if the "compress pictures" option were more robust anyway.

As for the PowerPoint file storing the image imported from Word twice...
well, that does sound like total overkill! Surly it should be able to
interpret the word document to be the image as the original jpg and the text
as text....

No, not if you insert it as OLE object. In that case, it can't. OLE
stands for Object Linking & Embedding and it means that an entire object
is inserted from another program as is. That's the whole premise of that
technology.
The default paste from Word into PPT by the way is in HTML, which it
then breaks apart as you suggest. I didn't use the default one though,
because I wanted to test the OLE case.

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[Steve Rindsberg]

Thanks Geetesh.
But as the files are really jpg files (with a container to say they are
Photo Editor Objects wrapped around them), and given that Photo Editor is a
Microsoft program issued with previous releases of Office, should not
PowerPoint have recognized the tru format of the images and allowed them to
be compressed?

So you'd wish, but this is one of the dangers of using any of the ever-changing
collection of graphics/drawing program-like appendages that ship with various
versions of Office. They're liable to go away in the next version, leaving you,
to put it in carpentorial terms, screwed.

A couple things you might try:

Select each of the images and ungroup it. That should dispose of the ole data
and connection to Photo Editor and leave just an image that PPT can compress.

Or select each image, copy it, then use Paste Special, As PNG to paste in a copy
as an image. Delete the original. At that point, you shouldn't need to compress
the image, but you can try that as well if you like.