Blurred movies on LCD

J

JeezLouize

My Samsung 191T is clear with everything but movies, either on DVD or
on the web. It seems to be the same with Win XP drivers or nVidia drivers.
The graphics card is 128 mb GeForce 2. I have no option on refresh rate,
it's set at 60 and cannot be changed. Is the low refresh rate the cause of
the blurred movies? Are all LCDs stuck at 60 refresh or is mine a dog?
 
K

Kenny S

Some LCD monitors have a problem displaying moving pictures as well as CRTs.
How old is the model you have?
 
R

R. McCarty

Refresh rate isn't a factor in the performance of LCD Monitors.
A couple of things to do, one download the LCD Monitor adj
tool from the manufacturer's website. All LCD's need adjusting
to the video card they are used with. Second, are you using the
"Clear Type" rendering setting ?
 
J

JeezLouize

Yes, I'm using clear type. I'll go check for a Samsung Monitor adj tool.

For Kenny S - The monitor is a little less than two years old.
 
K

Kevin

Until you can get response times down to about the 0.15 ms range, you will
find that you will have issues with fast action scenes in movies and videos.
I would guess your monitor has a response time of about 0.25 ms or greater.
Very good for text and graphics, but not the best for video games or movies.

Samsung makes an LCD monitor now (the 193 I think) that has a response time
of 0.15 ms and a contrast ratio of about 800:1. It sells for about $650.00
for the 19 inch version. Check out the Samsung website and take a look at
their monitors.
 
A

Alex Nichol

JeezLouize said:
My Samsung 191T is clear with everything but movies, either on DVD or
on the web. It seems to be the same with Win XP drivers or nVidia drivers.
The graphics card is 128 mb GeForce 2. I have no option on refresh rate,
it's set at 60 and cannot be changed. Is the low refresh rate the cause of
the blurred movies? Are all LCDs stuck at 60 refresh or is mine a dog?

LCDs normally work on a 60Hz refresh rate: that suits the long refresh
time. What I guess is happening is that the player software is
switching the resolution to play at 800x600 (maybe, but likely) where
your natural resolution is 1024x768 or more. Try and see how things
look if you run the player in a window rather than full screen
 
J

JeezLouize

Thanks Kevin. It's probably an inherent problem because the LCD
scenes are always blurred, even still scenes or stopped action. It's the
same with media player or PowerDVD player, with or without full
screen, and screen resolution doesn't affect it much except that the
blurring is less noticeable at 1280x1024...I like 1024x768 better. It's
been this way since day one when I switched from the good ol' Sony
tube monitor.

Anyone have an LCD that shows movies nice and crisp?

[2.4 G Pent 4, 1 gig memory, 80 G Sata, XP Pro working well.]
 
J

JeezLouize

Alex Nichol said:
LCDs normally work on a 60Hz refresh rate: that suits the long refresh
time. What I guess is happening is that the player software is
switching the resolution to play at 800x600 (maybe, but likely) where
your natural resolution is 1024x768 or more. Try and see how things
look if you run the player in a window rather than full screen

Hi Alex, thanks. It's the same in a window or full screen, just more
obvious blurring in full screen of course.
 
V

V Green

JeezLouize said:
Thanks Kevin. It's probably an inherent problem because the LCD
scenes are always blurred, even still scenes or stopped action. It's the
same with media player or PowerDVD player, with or without full
screen, and screen resolution doesn't affect it much except that the
blurring is less noticeable at 1280x1024...I like 1024x768 better. It's
been this way since day one when I switched from the good ol' Sony
tube monitor.

Anyone have an LCD that shows movies nice and crisp?

My 191T does, just fine.

You need to use it in DVI (digital) mode, though, which your
old GeForce 2 is probably not...
[2.4 G Pent 4, 1 gig memory, 80 G Sata, XP Pro working well.]


Kevin said:
Until you can get response times down to about the 0.15 ms range, you will
find that you will have issues with fast action scenes in movies and videos.
I would guess your monitor has a response time of about 0.25 ms or greater.
Very good for text and graphics, but not the best for video games or movies.

Samsung makes an LCD monitor now (the 193 I think) that has a response time
of 0.15 ms and a contrast ratio of about 800:1. It sells for about $650.00
for the 19 inch version. Check out the Samsung website and take a look at
their monitors.

cause
of
 
G

Guest

I have a Kogi 17" running at the native 1280x1024, 60hz refresh and I do just
fine for racing games and movies. It could be that your Geforce2 is not quite
up to the task. I have an Asylum FX5200 128meg works great. My previous was a
Geforce4 440 64meg and it worked well to. Not sure what role memory is going
to play in this. Maybe someone else has a view.

JeezLouize said:
Thanks Kevin. It's probably an inherent problem because the LCD
scenes are always blurred, even still scenes or stopped action. It's the
same with media player or PowerDVD player, with or without full
screen, and screen resolution doesn't affect it much except that the
blurring is less noticeable at 1280x1024...I like 1024x768 better. It's
been this way since day one when I switched from the good ol' Sony
tube monitor.

Anyone have an LCD that shows movies nice and crisp?

[2.4 G Pent 4, 1 gig memory, 80 G Sata, XP Pro working well.]


Kevin said:
Until you can get response times down to about the 0.15 ms range, you will
find that you will have issues with fast action scenes in movies and videos.
I would guess your monitor has a response time of about 0.25 ms or greater.
Very good for text and graphics, but not the best for video games or movies.

Samsung makes an LCD monitor now (the 193 I think) that has a response time
of 0.15 ms and a contrast ratio of about 800:1. It sells for about $650.00
for the 19 inch version. Check out the Samsung website and take a look at
their monitors.
 
J

JeezLouize

I'm using the digital mode, and my graphics card is a MSI FX5600
VTDR128...I don't know where I picked up that GeForce2 idea.
Must be a senior moment.

V Green said:
JeezLouize said:
Thanks Kevin. It's probably an inherent problem because the LCD
scenes are always blurred, even still scenes or stopped action. It's the
same with media player or PowerDVD player, with or without full
screen, and screen resolution doesn't affect it much except that the
blurring is less noticeable at 1280x1024...I like 1024x768 better. It's
been this way since day one when I switched from the good ol' Sony
tube monitor.

Anyone have an LCD that shows movies nice and crisp?

My 191T does, just fine.

You need to use it in DVI (digital) mode, though, which your
old GeForce 2 is probably not...
[2.4 G Pent 4, 1 gig memory, 80 G Sata, XP Pro working well.]


Kevin said:
Until you can get response times down to about the 0.15 ms range, you will
find that you will have issues with fast action scenes in movies and videos.
I would guess your monitor has a response time of about 0.25 ms or greater.
Very good for text and graphics, but not the best for video games or movies.

Samsung makes an LCD monitor now (the 193 I think) that has a response time
of 0.15 ms and a contrast ratio of about 800:1. It sells for about $650.00
for the 19 inch version. Check out the Samsung website and take a look at
their monitors.

My Samsung 191T is clear with everything but movies, either on DVD or
on the web. It seems to be the same with Win XP drivers or nVidia
drivers.
The graphics card is 128 mb GeForce 2. I have no option on refresh rate,
it's set at 60 and cannot be changed. Is the low refresh rate the cause
of
the blurred movies? Are all LCDs stuck at 60 refresh or is mine a dog?
 
L

Les Herrman

Thanks Kevin. It's probably an inherent problem because the LCD
scenes are always blurred, even still scenes or stopped action. It's the
same with media player or PowerDVD player, with or without full
screen, and screen resolution doesn't affect it much except that the
blurring is less noticeable at 1280x1024...I like 1024x768 better. It's
been this way since day one when I switched from the good ol' Sony
tube monitor.

Anyone have an LCD that shows movies nice and crisp?

My CTX does just fine. But one thing you will find with an LCD
monitor (as you have already noticed) You will get the best
performance in the monitor's native (default) mode. In your case I
would imagine that would be the 1280 X 1024 mode. Switching to
another resolution usually will compromise the quality of the display.

Also as was mentioned earlier, the better the response time of the
monitor the better the quality when viewing videos or doing gaming.
[2.4 G Pent 4, 1 gig memory, 80 G Sata, XP Pro working well.]


Kevin said:
Until you can get response times down to about the 0.15 ms range, you will
find that you will have issues with fast action scenes in movies and videos.
I would guess your monitor has a response time of about 0.25 ms or greater.
Very good for text and graphics, but not the best for video games or movies.

Samsung makes an LCD monitor now (the 193 I think) that has a response time
of 0.15 ms and a contrast ratio of about 800:1. It sells for about $650.00
for the 19 inch version. Check out the Samsung website and take a look at
their monitors.
 
F

Fleabus

Thanks Kevin. It's probably an inherent problem because the LCD
scenes are always blurred, even still scenes or stopped action. It's the
same with media player or PowerDVD player, with or without full
screen, and screen resolution doesn't affect it much except that the
blurring is less noticeable at 1280x1024...I like 1024x768 better. It's
been this way since day one when I switched from the good ol' Sony
tube monitor.

Anyone have an LCD that shows movies nice and crisp?

[2.4 G Pent 4, 1 gig memory, 80 G Sata, XP Pro working well.]


Kevin said:
Until you can get response times down to about the 0.15 ms range, you will
find that you will have issues with fast action scenes in movies and videos.
I would guess your monitor has a response time of about 0.25 ms or greater.
Very good for text and graphics, but not the best for video games or movies.

Samsung makes an LCD monitor now (the 193 I think) that has a response time
of 0.15 ms and a contrast ratio of about 800:1. It sells for about $650.00
for the 19 inch version. Check out the Samsung website and take a look at
their monitors.

Hi JeezLouize:

Movies, games and all else are nice and crisp on my LCD (clear type
enabled).

ATI Radeon 9800 XT 256MB AGP retail (Cat 4.12w/CCC)
DV-I: Monitor #1 Samsung SyncMaster 213T Black 21.3" TFT
1600x1200 32bit 60Hz (native)
VGA: Monitor #2 ViewSonic P225f 22" Aperture Grille CRT
1600x1200 32bit 85Hz

WinXP HE SP2 slipstream full/clean
P4 2.8b\533MHz FSB retail
1GB OCZ PC1066 RIMMs
Promise Ultra133 TX2 PCI controller card
2x 80GB Maxtor D740x 7200RPM ATA-133 HDDs [UDMA6]
etc
DirectX 9.0c
Windows Media Player v10
PowerDVD v5
etc

LCDs are supposed to run at 60Hz.
Maybe its your video card. Swap in a different one to see if the
blurriness goes away.
Latest video drivers?

Happy trails,

Fleabus ..............

Please remove the X from my address to e-mail me.
 

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