Bluetooth PAN profile on WM5 PPC with MS Bluetooth stack

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cyberco

I'm trying to get ad-hoc networking between three HTC TyTN WM5 PPC
devices, either via Bluetooth or WiFi. I figured that setting up a WiFi
ad hoc network using OpenNetCF would be the only way to go.
Unfortunately the Bluetooth PAN profile is missing (!) from the
Microsoft Bluetooth stack (which is becoming the default stack on WM5
devices). But then I read about AKU 3.0 supporting the Bluetooth PAN
profile, which is offering exactly what I need. AKU 3.0 devices use the
PAN profile for Internet Connection Sharing (it replaces the older
'modem link').

Now the question is, how do I get the AKU 3.0 on my HTC TyTN (if
possible at all)?

A related question I have is whether such is PAN consists of a
master/slave setting or of a network of more than 2 devices. The latter
is what I'm looking for.

Any help would be highly appreciated.
 
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Paul G. Tobey [eMVP]

Bluetooth is device-to-device *only*. You can't make it look like a WiFi ad
hoc network.

Forget about *how* you're trying to do this and tell us *what* you're trying
to do...

Paul T.
 
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Peter Foot [MVP]

AFAIK the PAN support in AKU 3.0 is only the host part, that is for sharing
the phone connection with another device or computer, I don't believe it
supports the other features of PAN profile such as group networking etc.

With regards getting a particular AKU update for your device, you'll need to
contact the manufacturer, only they can tell you if and when such a ROM
update would be made available.

Peter
 
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cyberco

AFAIK the PAN support in AKU 3.0 is only the host part, that is for sharing
the phone connection with another device or computer, I don't believe it
supports the other features of PAN profile such as group networking etc.

OK, thanks. But do you think an AKU 3.0 device can share its internet
connection with just one other device, or with multiple?
 
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cyberco

Bluetooth is device-to-device *only*. You can't make it look like a WiFi ad
hoc network.

OK. In first instance simple internet connection sharing (where my TyTN
shares its internet connection with multiple other devices) would be
sufficient. How can that be accomplished via either Bleutooth or WiFi?
 
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Paul G. Tobey [eMVP]

I think probably not. You could share it with a single PC and have it share
its connection with the rest, maybe, but I don't think that you can pair
several devices with the same profile on the same device at the same time
(could be wrong about that, though).

Why are you trying to do this? I'm having a hard time figuring out what
scenario would make sense for sharing a 56kbaud connection...

Paul T.
 
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cyberco

Thanks for your reply.
Why are you trying to do this? I'm having a hard time figuring out what
scenario would make sense for sharing a 56kbaud connection...

I want my other devices (which only have Bluetooth and WiFi) to use the
UMTS internet connection of my TyTN, which is considerably faster than
56kbaud.
 
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Paul G. Tobey [eMVP]

Hmmm. Well, it appears to me that it is possible to build a device based on
Windows CE to act as a NAP device and provide routing between Bluetooth
users and some other network, as you're looking for. However, although it
appears that my WM5 device is *not* built with these capabilities, I'm not
100% sure about that. The OS has to be built differently, with the right
components, for that to work. If it is built in that way, registry changes
would control the role of the phone and then the users of the profile would
have to act in a certain way to use it, also.

It seems like you might be able, since the phone can look like a modem to a
PC, to use the PC as the ICS gateway and it just happens to be using the
phone as the means to communicate with the network...

Paul T.
 

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