blue screen scanning registry

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santashelper

Whenever my registry is scanned either by regedit or AVG i get a blue screen
of death. The error code is:0x00000050 (address error). The parameters are:
1 0xfdfffff8, 2 0x00000000 3 0x8054aa32B5B2, 4 0x00000000. Have tried taking
out all hardware and drivers except AGP display card with same results.
Removed AGP card and driver and used a known good pci graphics card with same
results. Put in new memory and it checked good with mem86 3.4A. Still get
blue scren of death when registry is scanned. Tried runnig PC PITSTOP full
tests and still get blue screen. If I run in safe mode it runs everything
fine. Does anyone know what to do to solve this problem?
 
P

Pegasus \(MVP\)

santashelper said:
Whenever my registry is scanned either by regedit or AVG i get a blue
screen
of death. The error code is:0x00000050 (address error). The parameters
are:
1 0xfdfffff8, 2 0x00000000 3 0x8054aa32B5B2, 4 0x00000000. Have tried
taking
out all hardware and drivers except AGP display card with same results.
Removed AGP card and driver and used a known good pci graphics card with
same
results. Put in new memory and it checked good with mem86 3.4A. Still get
blue scren of death when registry is scanned. Tried runnig PC PITSTOP
full
tests and still get blue screen. If I run in safe mode it runs everything
fine. Does anyone know what to do to solve this problem?

I don't know about AVG but the native regedit.exe utility does not "scan"
the registry - it opens it for viewing or for editing. Make sure to run the
real thing by typing "c:\windows\regedit.exe" in the Run box, not some
malware look-alike program.

Since the problem does not occur in Safe Mode, you need to perform the usual
elimination process:
1. Physically disconnect your machine from the Internet.
2. Boot into Safe Mode.
3. Run msconfig.exe.
4. Disable each and every task under the Startup tab.
5. Reboot normally. If this fixes the problem then you can restore the
various startup tasks until you find the culprit.

Do not restore your Internet connection until you have re-enabled your virus
scanner and your software firewall (if you have one).
 
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santashelper

I am running the real regedit looking for an item that does not exist
(xyz123) so that it scans the whole registry. I did this because of the
bluescreen in PC PITSTOP, Spyware Doctor, and AVG.
 
D

Daave

santashelper said:
I am running the real regedit looking for an item that does not exist
(xyz123) so that it scans the whole registry. I did this because of
the
bluescreen in PC PITSTOP, Spyware Doctor, and AVG.

What exactly do you mean by "real regedit"? Do you have another
(malware) program also called regedit? What do you mean by "looking for
an item that does not exist"?
 
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Daave

Daave said:
What exactly do you mean by "real regedit"? Do you have another
(malware) program also called regedit? What do you mean by "looking
for an item that does not exist"?

Okay, I now see the context of "real." Pegasus had brought that up.

You really should follow his advice about using the process of
elimination. Here it is again:

<quote>
Since the problem does not occur in Safe Mode, you need to perform the
usual
elimination process:
1. Physically disconnect your machine from the Internet.
2. Boot into Safe Mode.
3. Run msconfig.exe.
4. Disable each and every task under the Startup tab.
5. Reboot normally. If this fixes the problem then you can restore the
various startup tasks until you find the culprit.

Do not restore your Internet connection until you have re-enabled your
virus
scanner and your software firewall (if you have one).
</quote>

My guess is that it's one of the three programs above you mentioned.
 
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santashelper

Did as you suggested with same results. Uninstalled AVG and repeated process
with diagnostic mode which automatically reset all startup items. Still
getting blue screen. Do you know of any diagnostics for an AMD atlon 1400
processor?
 
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Pegasus \(MVP\)

You now need to take this process one step further by doing this while in
Safe Mode:
1. Launch msconfig.exe.
2. Click the "Services" tab.
3. Hide all Microsoft services.
4. Untick the remaining services.
5. Reboot in Normal Mode and check again.

If this is a recent problem then performing a System Restore might help. Do
this ***after*** checking the effect of Steps 1..5 above.
 
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santashelper

Ran without system services as suggested. Still getting blue screen. Have
already tried to restore back to the earliest possible date and still got the
blue screen.
 
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Pegasus \(MVP\)

This is getting suspicious. If you had a hardware or driver problem then
your machine would crash in many different applications, not just with
regedit. Perhaps the problem is with regedit, not with your machine. If so
then a clean copy of regedit.exe would resolve the issue.

Pop in your WinXP installation CD, then open a Command Prompt and type these
commands:
expand X:\i386\regedit.ex_ c:\regedit.exe{Enter}
c:\regedit.exe{Enter}

Replace "X:" with the correct drive letter for your CD drive.
 
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santashelper

Used command line:
c:\Documents and Settigns\Owner> expand d:\i386\regedit.ex_ c:\regedit.exe

received msg.:
Microsoft (R) E\File Expansion Utility Version 5.1.2600.0
copyright (C) Microsoft Corp. 1998-1999. All rights reserved.

Can't open input file: d:\i386\regedit.ex_.

Looked at CD contents and found regedit.exe in the i386 folder .
 
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Pegasus \(MVP\)

santashelper said:
Used command line:
c:\Documents and Settigns\Owner> expand d:\i386\regedit.ex_ c:\regedit.exe

received msg.:
Microsoft (R) E\File Expansion Utility Version 5.1.2600.0
copyright (C) Microsoft Corp. 1998-1999. All rights reserved.

Can't open input file: d:\i386\regedit.ex_.

Looked at CD contents and found regedit.exe in the i386 folder .

Mhm. Well. This means that the file is not compressed on the CD and does not
need expanding. Just execute it as it is: D:\i386\regedit.exe.
 
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V Green

Couple thoughts here.

Try running regedt32 instead.

and

When doing a Registry search using a single non-multi-core
processor (which I'm pretty sure the Athlon is), Task Mgr.
shows Regedit using 100% CPU continuously for
the duration of the search. Not many apps do this
in day-to-day operations. Major stress.

That being the case, you may be overheating. Check
your CPU fan(s), etc. Also could be PSU problem.
 
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santashelper

tried what you suggested by loading regedit from the XP cd. no luck. It
does fail with any program that scans the registry. I.E. Spyware Doctor, AVG,
PC Pitstop.
 
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santashelper

Regedit32 runs the same program (regedit.exe) according to microsoft..
CPU temp and fan speed are OK. CPU Temp=102 degrees F, System Temp=77
degrees F, CPU Fam Speed=4818 rpm, System Fan=2776.
 
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santashelper

First of all I have tried everything that was suggested.
Second, what do you mean by line 35?
 
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santashelper

Have tried everything suggested and no cure. Is there any hardware
dianostics for an AMD athlon Thunderbird or perhaps bios updates for an FDI
AK76-SN mother board
 
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Daave

Need some clarification first.

Does the blue screen *only* occur if you are scanning the registry? If
so, this is surely a software issue.

Does it *ever* occur in Safe Mode? If not, one of your programs such as
PC Pitstop is probably to blame.
 
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santashelper

I have had a few random blue screens when online. All of the scans work in
safe mode. None of the scans work in normal mode. Pcpitstop.com runs test
over the internet through an activex control. Regedit has been reloaded from
the orginal Microsoft XP Home CD. AVG is a virus check program and I have
been using it for several years.
 

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