Blue Screen at Startup

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Guest

Using Windows Vista on a new Toshiba laptop. On startup occassionally getting
error "A thread tried to release a resource it did not own" and the system
will not self-correct.

Only way to get this corrected is to startup once in SAFE MODE then when I
re-boot the problem is gone, at least temporarily.

I've run diagnostics on the PC and all is OK. Any suggestions would be
greatly appreciated - I'm getting to the point of returning the laptop, it's
only 5 days old.
 
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Alias

DJE said:
Using Windows Vista on a new Toshiba laptop. On startup occassionally getting
error "A thread tried to release a resource it did not own" and the system
will not self-correct.

Only way to get this corrected is to startup once in SAFE MODE then when I
re-boot the problem is gone, at least temporarily.

I've run diagnostics on the PC and all is OK. Any suggestions would be
greatly appreciated - I'm getting to the point of returning the laptop, it's
only 5 days old.

That's what I would do and insist on either XP or Ubuntu.
 
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Chad Harris

HI DJE--

This error, depending on the number you got with it, has many applications.
One and only one example would be a driver problem as in

http://www.osronline.com/ddkx/ddtools/bccodes_7r1j.htm#ddk_bug_check_0xc4_verifier_div_bug

http://209.85.165.104/search?q=cach...t+did+not+own+vista&hl=en&ct=clnk&cd=15&gl=us

I don't know if you've installed any new hardware devices lately. It could
be a software driver as well.

I'd try these:

I'd either use System File Checker (and if that does not helpyou), Startup
Repair (if you own a Vista DVD), which does not require a no boot situation
to help you fix many Vista components, or try Sytem Restorefrom either the
Vista DVD's Recovery link or from the F8 menu. Links that show you how to
do this are below.

***SFC as a Remedy***:

SFC or System File Checker is a bit like the spare tire in your car or a
backup battery I suppose. In Vista of course, they have changed it somewhat
and come up with a new name--Redmond stands for name it something different
twice a year and now it's part of WRP or Windows Resource Protection. It
scans protected resources including thousands of files, libraries, critical
folders, and essential registry keys, and it replaces those that are
corrupted with intact ones. It fixes a lot of problems in Windows XP, OE,
Windows Vista, Win Mail, IE6, and on Vista or if it is installed on XP, IE7.
It protects these things from changes by any source including
administrators, by keeping a spare of most of them.


How to Run SFC:

Type "cmd" into the Search box above the Start Button>and when cmd comes up
at the top of the Start menu>right click cmd and click "run as Admin" and
when the cmd prompt comes up at the cmd prompt type "sfc /scannow" no quotes
and let it run. This may fix things quite a bit. It replaces corrupt files
with intact ones, if you're not familiar with it.

If no help from SFC, you can try a restore point to before this happened or
you try the steps below if you have a Vista DVD:

***Startup Repair from the Vista DVD***

How to Use The Vista DVD to Repair Vista (Startup Repair is misnamed by the
Win RE team and it can be used to fix many Vista components even when you
can boot to Vista):

http://www.windowsvista.windowsreinstall.com/vistaultimate/repairstartup/index.htm

If you elect to run Startup repair from the Vista DVD (it can fix major
components in Vista--I've verified this many many times; it's good for more
than startup problems, and the Win RE team simply screwed up when they named
it not understanding its full functionality):

Startup Repair will look like this when you put in the Vista DVD:

http://www.vistaclues.com/wp-content/uploads/2006/12/click-repair-your-computer.png

You run the startup repair tool this way (and system restore from here is
also sometimes effective):

http://support.microsoft.com/kb/925810/en-us

How To Run Startup Repair In Vista Ultimate (Multiple Screenshots)
http://www.windowsvista.windowsreinstall.com/vistaultimate/repairstartup/index.htm

It will automatically take you to this on your screen:

http://www.vistaclues.com/wp-content/uploads/2006/12/click-repair-your-computer.png

That will allow you to go to the Vista setup that has a Repair link on
thelower left corner>click it and then you'll see a gray backgrounded list
and I want you to click Startup Repair from it and follow the directions.

The gray screen after you click the first link in the above pic will look
like this:

http://www.windowsreinstall.com/winvista/images/repair/staruprepair/Image17.gif

Click Startup Repair, the link at the top and after it scans>click OK and
let it try to repair Vista. It will tell you if it does, and if it
doesn't, try System Restore from the Recovery Link on the DVD. If these
don't work booting into Safe Mode by tapping the F8 key and using System
Restore from one of the safe modes besides VGA may work. That means you
have the option to try 4 different safe modes to get to system restore, (one
from the Recovery link on the DVD) and sometimes one will work when the
others won't.

You could also try a Repair Install with Vista which is done exactly the
same way as in XP:

***Repair Install Steps*** (can be used for Vista) MVP Doug Knox
http://www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/using/helpandsupport/learnmore/tips/doug92.mspx


***Using the F8 Environment***

***Taking Full Advantage of the F8 Options (Windows Advanced Options Menu)
by starting the PC and tapping F8 once per second when the firmware screen
with the pc manufacturer's name shows a few seconds after restarting***:

The F8 options in Vista are the same as XP, and the link for Safe Mode Boot
options is labled XP by MSFT but they are the same for Vista (they haven't
updated to add Vista to the title as they have with several MSKBs that apply
to both).

Again, pressing F8 repeatedly when you seem the firmware screen may be is a
generic way to launch Windows RE on some OEM Vista computers.

You could also:

Think: I have 4 different ways to get back my XP at F8 and try 'em in order.
1) Safe Mode 2) Safe Mode with Cmd to Sys Restore which is simply a cmd
prompt in safe mode 3) Safe Mode with Neworking 4) LKG or Last Known Good
Configuration


Try to F8 to the Windows Adv Options Menu>try 3 safe modes there (I don't
use WGA) and Last Known Good>then I go to Win RE in Vista. That gives you a
choice of Safe Mode, Safe Mode with Networking,and Safe Mode with Command
Prompt.

These methods are outlined in

A description of the Safe Mode Boot options in Windows XP/and Vista
http://support.microsoft.com/kb/315222/

Frequently Asked Questions Regarding System Restore from MSFT:

http://www.microsoft.com/technet/prodtechnol/winxppro/plan/faqsrwxp.mspx


System Restore can be run from the Win RE recovery environment from the same
link as Startup Repair, and sometimes it will work from one F8 safe mode
location or from the Win Recovery Environment when it won't work from other
locations.


How to start the System Restore tool at a command prompt in Windows XP

http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;en-us;304449

Good luck,

CH
 
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Guest

Chad,
Thanks for the info. I ran SFC and received the following message:

"Windows resource protection found corrupt files but was unable to
fix some of them. Details are included in CBS.log"

The day after I got this laptop I had to run STARTUP REPAIR and it wanted
to repair from previous version (which looses lots of installs). I ended up
having to re-image the PC, 9 hours later I've rebuilt it and 3 days later
I'm having the same problem.

Any ideas. Also I can't locate CBS.log
 
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Alun Harford

DJE said:
Using Windows Vista on a new Toshiba laptop. On startup occassionally getting
error "A thread tried to release a resource it did not own" and the system
will not self-correct.

Only way to get this corrected is to startup once in SAFE MODE then when I
re-boot the problem is gone, at least temporarily.

I've run diagnostics on the PC and all is OK. Any suggestions would be
greatly appreciated - I'm getting to the point of returning the laptop, it's
only 5 days old.

Almost certainly a driver problem. Maybe Toshiba have updated drivers
avaliable to fix the problem. If not, I'd return the laptop - until they
right decent drivers for it, it's no good.

Alun Harford
 
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Ed M.

DJE said:
Chad,
Thanks for the info. I ran SFC and received the following message:

"Windows resource protection found corrupt files but was unable to
fix some of them. Details are included in CBS.log"

The day after I got this laptop I had to run STARTUP REPAIR and it wanted
to repair from previous version (which looses lots of installs). I ended
up
having to re-image the PC, 9 hours later I've rebuilt it and 3 days later
I'm having the same problem.

Any ideas. Also I can't locate CBS.log
Those types of errors can be indicative of a hardware failure. My first
inclination would be a HDD failing, but it could be other things as well
like memory. I would take it back right away and get the issue resolved.

Ed
 

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