Bill Gates Blackmailing Denmark

[The Fantom]

http://wiki.ffii.org/Navision050215En for full article.

Prelaminary translation of the article

Gates threatens Fogh [dk PM] with closing Navision

The founder of the world's largest software company Bill Gates is now
ready to close Navision in Denmark and move the almost 800 developers in
Denmarks largest software company to the USA.

This was firmly stated when he met with Prime Minister Anders Fogh
Rasmussen (V) [V = liberal party] in November 2004, as well as the
minister of economics and industry Bendt Bendtsen (K) [K = Conservatives]
and the minister of science Helge Sander (V).

The threat may become reality, if parts of the IT industry succeed in
blocking a controversial EU directive on software patents, that
Microsoft [more than anything in the world] wants to be approved, but
which time and again has been delayed thanks to their opponents very
efficient lobbying.

"If I'm to keep my development center in Denmark, then it's a
requirement that the question of rights becomes resolved. Otherwise, I
will move it to the USA where I can protect my rights" said Bill Gates
according to Microsoft Chief legal council[?] Marianne Wier, that also
took part in the meeting with Anders Fogh Rasmussen.

Bill Gates bought the Danish development department, which builds upon
the merger of the two IT companies Navision and Damgaard, for almost 12
billion DKK back in 2002.

It has not been possible to reach Prime Minister Anders Fogh Rasmussen
to have him explain in detail [lit. "deepen"] how he reacted on the
harsh message from Bill Gates.

 

[Larc]

| http://wiki.ffii.org/Navision050215En for full article.
|
| Prelaminary translation of the article
|
| Gates threatens Fogh [dk PM] with closing Navision
|
| The founder of the world's largest software company Bill Gates is now
| ready to close Navision in Denmark and move the almost 800 developers in
| Denmarks largest software company to the USA.
|
| This was firmly stated when he met with Prime Minister Anders Fogh
| Rasmussen (V) [V = liberal party] in November 2004, as well as the
| minister of economics and industry Bendt Bendtsen (K) [K = Conservatives]
| and the minister of science Helge Sander (V).
|
| The threat may become reality, if parts of the IT industry succeed in
| blocking a controversial EU directive on software patents, that
| Microsoft [more than anything in the world] wants to be approved, but
| which time and again has been delayed thanks to their opponents very
| efficient lobbying.
|
| "If I'm to keep my development center in Denmark, then it's a
| requirement that the question of rights becomes resolved. Otherwise, I
| will move it to the USA where I can protect my rights" said Bill Gates
| according to Microsoft Chief legal council[?] Marianne Wier, that also
| took part in the meeting with Anders Fogh Rasmussen.
|
| Bill Gates bought the Danish development department, which builds upon
| the merger of the two IT companies Navision and Damgaard, for almost 12
| billion DKK back in 2002.
|
| It has not been possible to reach Prime Minister Anders Fogh Rasmussen
| to have him explain in detail [lit. "deepen"] how he reacted on the
| harsh message from Bill Gates.

That's business! If Denmark screws Gates, then Denmark shouldn't be
surprised if Gates screws them.

Larc



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[JAD]

sounds like good business practice to me.....

 

[Michael Swift]

That's business! If Denmark screws Gates, then Denmark shouldn't be
surprised if Gates screws them.

He's an equal opportunity businessman, he screws everyone.

Mike

 

[Ted Campanelli]

Ted shuffled out of his cave and grunted these great (and sometimes not
so great) words of knowledge:

What I find interesting is that monopolies are not legal in this country
(US ). Where is the competition to Microsoft ? Please don't say Linux.
I am referring to an OS that will run the majority of windows programs.

Bill has the software manufacturers and hardware manufacturers doing
what he wants. If they want to sell their product IT MUST BE ABLE TO
RUN UNDER WINDOWS.

Back in "the old days" you had a choice of an os. There was PC Dos, MS
Dos, C-Dos plus a few others I don't remember. Bill managed to get rid
of all the "threats".

Where were our "illustrious" government watchdogs while this was going
on ? Where are they now ? Are they doing anything ? Nope, Bill owns them.

 

[JAD]

bill is doing what the world powers want him to..1 world -1computer -1OS-
run by the 1 government. its in your face....yet few see it.

Ted shuffled out of his cave and grunted these great (and sometimes not
so great) words of knowledge:

What I find interesting is that monopolies are not legal in this country
(US ). Where is the competition to Microsoft ? Please don't say Linux.
I am referring to an OS that will run the majority of windows programs.

Bill has the software manufacturers and hardware manufacturers doing
what he wants. If they want to sell their product IT MUST BE ABLE TO
RUN UNDER WINDOWS.

Back in "the old days" you had a choice of an os. There was PC Dos, MS
Dos, C-Dos plus a few others I don't remember. Bill managed to get rid
of all the "threats".

Where were our "illustrious" government watchdogs while this was going
on ? Where are they now ? Are they doing anything ? Nope, Bill owns

them.

 

[Ed Light]

Software patents. An old problem. Often someone wants to patent a commonly
used thing. Perhaps BG wants too much for his monopoly.

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MS Smiley :-\

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[A Guy Called Tyketto]

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Ted shuffled out of his cave and grunted these great (and sometimes not
so great) words of knowledge:

What I find interesting is that monopolies are not legal in this country
(US ). Where is the competition to Microsoft ? Please don't say Linux.
I am referring to an OS that will run the majority of windows programs.

You just shot yourself in the foot there. "They must run
windows programs." You want an alternative competitor to M$ that can
run M$ programs? Something proprietary to M$? That is akin to
antitrust, which M$ just got lambasted in court for both in the US and
the EU.

You want competition? Linux. Open Office. Or even WINE.

Bill has the software manufacturers and hardware manufacturers doing
what he wants. If they want to sell their product IT MUST BE ABLE TO
RUN UNDER WINDOWS.

My Opteron 140, Gigabyte K8NNXP-940, Linksys WRT54G, ForteMedia
sound card, and SATA drives all disagree with you. They are running
perfectly... under LINUX.

Back in "the old days" you had a choice of an os. There was PC Dos, MS
Dos, C-Dos plus a few others I don't remember. Bill managed to get rid
of all the "threats".

Mr. Torvalds would happily disagree with you. Do more homework.

Where were our "illustrious" government watchdogs while this was going
on ? Where are they now ? Are they doing anything ? Nope, Bill owns them.

Seeing that the EU Appelate courts through his appeal out and
made the door hit him on his way out, I don't think Gates of Borg owns
them. If anything, they are now growing tired of him. As well as the
people around, who keep getting all of these security updates because
Gates can't keep his OS and programs straight. Perfect example:

I'm running Slackware 10.1 on my linux box. My last security
update for the distribution, was Oct. 31st, 2004, for crashing of CVS,
which that ended up being a bugfix. For a real security update, it was
Oct. 25th. Those were for 2 programs: Apache, and mod_ssl. Between then
and now, M$ has had over 40 vulnerabilities in various programs used in
its OS. 2 to 40. Hmmm... Should I even get into worms, virii, and any
other trojans?

BL.
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[relic]

What I find interesting is that monopolies are not legal in this
country (US ). Where is the competition to Microsoft ?

There is no guarantee of Competition. Only that anyone _can_ start a company
or sell a product that competes. Why don't you?

 

[David Maynard]

Ted shuffled out of his cave and grunted these great (and sometimes not
so great) words of knowledge:

What I find interesting is that monopolies are not legal in this country
(US ). Where is the competition to Microsoft ? Please don't say Linux.

That's like saying there's no competition to ABC, and please don't say NBC
because they don't show the same programs.

I am referring to an OS that will run the majority of windows programs.

You mean like IBM's OS/2 touted?

Bill has the software manufacturers and hardware manufacturers doing
what he wants. If they want to sell their product IT MUST BE ABLE TO
RUN UNDER WINDOWS.

It's the buyer who 'requires' it.

Back in "the old days" you had a choice of an os. There was PC Dos, MS
Dos, C-Dos plus a few others I don't remember. Bill managed to get rid
of all the "threats".

Ole Billy Boy simply out competed them, including IBM.

Where were our "illustrious" government watchdogs while this was going
on ? Where are they now ? Are they doing anything ? Nope, Bill owns
them.

Yeah. How dare they let someone succeed?

 

[PWY]

Ted shuffled out of his cave and grunted these great (and sometimes not so
great) words of knowledge:

What I find interesting is that monopolies are not legal in this country
(US ). Where is the competition to Microsoft ? Please don't say Linux. I
am referring to an OS that will run the majority of windows programs.

Bill has the software manufacturers and hardware manufacturers doing what
he wants. If they want to sell their product IT MUST BE ABLE TO RUN UNDER
WINDOWS.

Back in "the old days" you had a choice of an os. There was PC Dos, MS
Dos, C-Dos plus a few others I don't remember. Bill managed to get rid of
all the "threats".

No he didn't. These operating systems are still around. You can switch any
time you want to.

 

[Overlord]

bill is doing what the world powers want him to..1 world -1computer -1OS-
run by the 1 government. its in your face....yet few see it.

Doh! There's my cue, and I almost missed it!

"I cannot read the fiery letters," I said. "No," he said, "but I can. The letters are Hex, of an
ancient mode, but the language is that of Microsoft, which I shall not utter here. But in common
English this is what it says"
"One OS to rule them all, One OS to find them
One OS to bring them all and in the darkness bind them."

them.

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You just shot yourself in the foot there. "They must run
windows programs." You want an alternative competitor to M$ that can
run M$ programs? Something proprietary to M$? That is akin to
antitrust, which M$ just got lambasted in court for both in the US and
the EU.

You want competition? Linux. Open Office. Or even WINE.


My Opteron 140, Gigabyte K8NNXP-940, Linksys WRT54G, ForteMedia
sound card, and SATA drives all disagree with you. They are running
perfectly... under LINUX.


Mr. Torvalds would happily disagree with you. Do more homework.


Seeing that the EU Appelate courts through his appeal out and
made the door hit him on his way out, I don't think Gates of Borg owns
them. If anything, they are now growing tired of him. As well as the
people around, who keep getting all of these security updates because
Gates can't keep his OS and programs straight. Perfect example:

I'm running Slackware 10.1 on my linux box. My last security
update for the distribution, was Oct. 31st, 2004, for crashing of CVS,
which that ended up being a bugfix. For a real security update, it was
Oct. 25th. Those were for 2 programs: Apache, and mod_ssl. Between then
and now, M$ has had over 40 vulnerabilities in various programs used in
its OS. 2 to 40. Hmmm... Should I even get into worms, virii, and any
other trojans?

BL.
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"I'm running Slackware 10.1 on my linux box. My last security
update for the distribution, was Oct. 31st, 2004, for crashing of CVS,
which that ended up being a bugfix. For a real security update, it was
Oct. 25th. Those were for 2 programs: Apache, and mod_ssl. Between then
and now, M$ has had over 40 vulnerabilities in various programs used in
its OS. 2 to 40. Hmmm... Should I even get into worms, virii, and any
other trojans?"

So? The big dog gets more fleas. Whats so surprising about that? And to the
original poster...Sorry, I won't cross post this for you

 

[Nicholas Buenk]

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You just shot yourself in the foot there. "They must run
windows programs." You want an alternative competitor to M$ that can
run M$ programs? Something proprietary to M$? That is akin to
antitrust, which M$ just got lambasted in court for both in the US and
the EU.

You want competition? Linux. Open Office. Or even WINE.

Ahh yes, and get half the FPS in games, Linux is not a good alternative,
WINE doesn't work with every windows program and when it does it's often
slow.

My Opteron 140, Gigabyte K8NNXP-940, Linksys WRT54G, ForteMedia
sound card, and SATA drives all disagree with you. They are running
perfectly... under LINUX.

Not everyone can get linux to do everything they need to do.

 

[Nicholas Buenk]

There is no guarantee of Competition. Only that anyone _can_ start a
company or sell a product that competes. Why don't you?

It's very hard to develope a competing OS when so much depends on software
compatablity. Sure, you can make a great technologically advanced OS, which
won't likely do very well in the market because there will be no software to
run on it.
Patents are government inforced monopolies.

 

[David Maynard]

It's very hard to develope a competing OS when so much depends on software
compatablity. Sure, you can make a great technologically advanced OS, which
won't likely do very well in the market because there will be no software to
run on it.

Patents are government inforced monopolies.

That *is* the point of them: That he who invents it should reap the
benefit, for a period of time, of having done so.

Why in the world should I spend the time, effort, and money to invent
something if you're going to just copy it for free? YOU go waste a few
million inventing it and *I'll* do the copying.

 

[Matt]

That *is* the point of them: That he who invents it should reap the
benefit, for a period of time, of having done so.

Why in the world should I spend the time, effort, and money to invent
something if you're going to just copy it for free? YOU go waste a few
million inventing it and *I'll* do the copying.

Okay, but don't forget to patent it too---like Microsoft. Here is their
patent (#6,727,830) on the mouse double click:

http://patft.uspto.gov/netacgi/nph-...0&s1=6727830.WKU.&OS=PN/6727830&RS=PN/6727830

 

[David Maynard]

Okay, but don't forget to patent it too

Well, it *would* be rather difficult to talk about "Patents are government
inforced monopolies" if it wasn't patented, now wouldn't it?

---like Microsoft. Here is their
patent (#6,727,830) on the mouse double click:

http://patft.uspto.gov/netacgi/nph-...0&s1=6727830.WKU.&OS=PN/6727830&RS=PN/6727830

I'm not going to debate the virtues of individual patents since selectively
picking one to argue against the patent concept itself is like arguing
there should be no traffic laws because you dispute the merit of a 30 MPH
speed limit on Elm.

 

[Overlord]

Well, it *would* be rather difficult to talk about "Patents are government
inforced monopolies" if it wasn't patented, now wouldn't it?



I'm not going to debate the virtues of individual patents since selectively
picking one to argue against the patent concept itself is like arguing
there should be no traffic laws because you dispute the merit of a 30 MPH
speed limit on Elm.

I believe I will patent the concept of clicking with the left mouse button
as opposed to the right mouse button. Then if you click with that finger
you'll have to send me a nickel each time.

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[David Maynard]

I believe I will patent the concept of clicking with the left mouse button
as opposed to the right mouse button. Then if you click with that finger
you'll have to send me a nickel each time.

Good luck. But I think you'll find that getting a patent isn't quite as
easy as you seem to believe.

For one, you just told me, and on a public forum no less, which makes it
public domain. No patent.

Btw, I can't find any reference at all to a 'mouse' in the afore mentioned
patent. It's about "Time based hardware button for application launch" and,
in particular, "on a limited resource computing device" that is described
as "Small, mobile computing devices, such as personal desktop assistants
including hand-held and palm-type computers and the like." And the
"hardware button" is not a mouse key but the buttons on PDAs for launching
specific applications, as in "Therefore, as an alternative to launching
applications by using the stylus, the Palm-size PC contains a plurality of
buttons (called application buttons) that are used to launch the more
common applications installed on a Palm-size PC."