Tom,
Did you know that if you make up your own statistics, that 80% of the people you quote them to will believe you 20% of the time?
| I see. Therefore, the "etched in stone" reply you made is also meaningless,
| since Ron gave a statistic of 50%. So, why is it "etched in stone"?
|
| I would like to see both of you cite, since you challenge.
|
| Where do you get your statistics, Murray? ;-)
| --
| ===
| Tom "Pepper" Willett
| Microsoft MVP - FrontPage
| ---
| About FrontPage 2003:
|
http://office.microsoft.com/home/office.aspx?assetid=FX01085802
| FrontPage 2003 Product Information:
|
http://www.microsoft.com/office/frontpage/prodinfo/default.mspx
| Understanding FrontPage:
|
http://msdn.microsoft.com/office/understanding/frontpage/
| ===
| | | Of course it's a meaningless statistic....
| |
| | --
| | Murray
| |
| | | | > According to the latest stats at
www.echoecho.com
| | >
| | > 48% use 1024 x 768
| | > 39% use 800 x 600
| | >
| | > That's a drastic change from the past. I would suggest it's because out
| | > of
| | > the box computers are now set at the higher screen resolutions.
| | >
| | > --
| | > ===
| | > Tom "Pepper" Willett
| | > Microsoft MVP - FrontPage
| | > ---
| | > About FrontPage 2003:
| | >
http://office.microsoft.com/home/office.aspx?assetid=FX01085802
| | > FrontPage 2003 Product Information:
| | >
http://www.microsoft.com/office/frontpage/prodinfo/default.mspx
| | > Understanding FrontPage:
| | >
http://msdn.microsoft.com/office/understanding/frontpage/
| | > ===
| | > | | > | Regard this post as etched in stone. It's good advice through and
| | > | through....
| | > |
| | > | --
| | > | Murray
| | > |
| | > | | | > | > The following are personal opinions, others may not agree and they
| | > won't
| | > | > be wrong.
| | > | >
| | > | > Also bear in mind that my web sites are personal, not business, and
| | > are
| | > | > built to look good in the latest browsers, and be functional in
| older
| | > | > models.
| | > | >
| | > | > Design for 800x600 browser - nearly half the PC users use a screen
| | > | > resolution of 800x600, and many others use their browsers in
| windows,
| | > | > smaller than full screen. In FP2003 set up the design window at
| | > 760x425.
| | > | > Fit the width of the page into that and it will suit 99% of users
| and
| | > | > browsers.
| | > | >
| | > | > Set the Authoring settings (Tools->Page Options - Authoring tab):
| | > | >
| | > | > Browsers: set to Custom
| | > | > Schema Version: Internet Explorer 5.0
| | > | > Tick all the boxes except: VML graphics, ActiveX controls, PNG
| | > graphics,
| | > | > Java applets. Java may not be available on Windows XP or in IE6,
| PNG
| | > | > images will not be visible in some browsers, and ActiveX is IE only
| | > and
| | > | > often blocked.
| | > | >
| | > | > Generator and ProgID tags is your choice, makes no difference to the
| | > page.
| | > | >
| | > | >
| | > | > Using Layers: Used properly, layers are fine and are compatible
| with
| | > all
| | > | > browsers (except Opera 4, but who uses Opera 4?). If you use
| layers,
| | > do
| | > | > not set the height. Do not place a layer inside a table cell, and
| | > watch
| | > | > for trouble if you nest them (avoid nesting). Also beware of users
| | > who
| | > | > change font sizes - this is a cause of problems with layers if you
| are
| | > not
| | > | > prepared for it.
| | > | >
| | > | > Using tables for layout is nearly always safe. The layout on your
| | > page
| | > | > can be built using tables.
| | > | >
| | > | > --
| | > | > Ron Symonds (Microsoft MVP - FrontPage)
| | > | > Reply only to group - emails will be deleted unread.
| | > | >
| | > | >
| | > message
| | > | > | | > | >>I can't say that the news is good but your help is most appreciated.
| I
| | > | >> understand what you are telling me but quite honestly, I'm almost
| | > afraid
| | > | >> to
| | > | >> try again! How do you think I should set my authoring
| properties/page
| | > | >> size?
| | > | >> Should I stay away from layers?
| | > | >>
| | > | >> "Ronx" wrote:
| | > | >>
| | > | >>> I would start again, using tables to position elements, and lose
| the
| | > | >>> Word
| | > | >>> Art and Text Boxes.
| | > | >>>
| | > | >>> For a web page, you need a completely different mind set to
| | > designing
| | > a
| | > | >>> printed page. A web page has no dimensions - it's as wide as the
| | > | >>> browser
| | > | >>> (and sometimes wider), and as long as needed to get to the end.
| | > | >>>
| | > | >>> Also, see my other post.
| | > | >>>
| | > | >>> --
| | > | >>> Ron Symonds (Microsoft MVP - FrontPage)
| | > | >>> Reply only to group - emails will be deleted unread.
| | > | >>>
| | > | >>>
| | > message
| | > | >>> | | > | >>> >I did use absolute positioning and most of the content is placed
| in
| | > | >>> >layers.
| | > | >>> > With lots of experience in page layout software and none in web
| | > | >>> > development,
| | > | >>> > I apparantly created the site with the wrong frame of mind. I
| | > reviewed
| | > | >>> > some
| | > | >>> > of the on-line training that I took initially and still fail to
| | > see
| | > | >>> > where
| | > | >>> > this obviously important step is clearly noted. So while I am
| busy
| | > | >>> > kicking
| | > | >>> > myself, could you tell me what you would do at this point?
| | > | >>> > "Ronx" wrote:
| | > | >>> >
| | > | >>> >> Changing settings in FrontPage now is like shutting the
| | > proverbial
| | > | >>> >> stable
| | > | >>> >> door.... The settings in FP prevent components being used,
| they
| | > do
| | > | >>> >> not
| | > | >>> >> change anything that has already been done.
| | > | >>> >>
| | > | >>> >> From your very brief description of the problems I _guess_ that
| | > you
| | > | >>> >> have
| | > | >>> >> used absolute positioning. Used carefully AP will not cause a
| | > | >>> >> problem in
| | > | >>> >> modern browsers (including NN4). Used carelessly, the
| | > overlapping
| | > | >>> >> text
| | > | >>> >> and
| | > | >>> >> graphics layers will be prevalent if the browser window is not
| at
| | > the
| | > | >>> >> design
| | > | >>> >> size.
| | > | >>> >>
| | > | >>> >> A URL will enable a better answer.
| | > | >>> >>
| | > | >>> >> --
| | > | >>> >> Ron Symonds (Microsoft MVP - FrontPage)
| | > | >>> >> Reply only to group - emails will be deleted unread.
| | > | >>> >>
| | > | >>> >>
| in
| | > | >>> >> message
| | > | >>> >> | | > | >>> >> >I created a website in FP 2003 without understanding that I
| | > needed
| | > | >>> >> >to
| | > | >>> >> >choose
| | > | >>> >> > the correct authoring properties for consistent viewing in
| | > | >>> >> > different
| | > | >>> >> > browsers. After publishing the site, I asked several people
| to
| | > | >>> >> > visit
| | > | >>> >> > and
| | > | >>> >> > provide input. One person viewed the site in IE 5.0 (IE
| version
| | > 6
| | > | >>> >> > is on
| | > | >>> >> > the
| | > | >>> >> > local drive) and noted several problems with the layering of
| | > text
| | > | >>> >> > and
| | > | >>> >> > graphics. The site was also viewed in Netscape 4.7 where it
| was
| | > | >>> >> > completely
| | > | >>> >> > unusable. Can I simply change those settings or do I have a
| | > major
| | > | >>> >> > problem?
| | > | >>> >> > If
| | > | >>> >> > I can just change the settings, can I use the remote site or
| do
| | > I
| | > | >>> >> > need
| | > | >>> >> > to
| | > | >>> >> > make the change on the local and re-publish? Thanks.
| | > | >>> >>
| | > | >>> >>
| | > | >>> >>
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