Beware of VISTA if you have any multimedia aspirations with your computer

[Rich]

http://www.cs.auckland.ac.nz/~pgut001/pubs/vista_cost.html

 

[Venom]

http://www.cs.auckland.ac.nz/~pgut001/pubs/vista_cost.html

Given that Vista also includes Palladium it would be some special sort of
idiot who would want to install Vista.

 

[jimmy hoffa]

Given that Vista also includes Palladium it would be some special sort of
idiot who would want to install Vista.

I'd imagine I'll end up with a dedicated box for vista with almost
nothing on the hard disk. Just a bare install and whatever software
you need to do business. Zero ID or data. No network.

Thanks Billy, you're so charitable to us all.

The other boxes will be win2000, linux, and a mac.

 

[Venom]

I'd imagine I'll end up with a dedicated box for vista with almost
nothing on the hard disk. Just a bare install and whatever software
you need to do business. Zero ID or data. No network.

Thanks Billy, you're so charitable to us all.

The other boxes will be win2000, linux, and a mac.

This is the way most folk are starting to think. I will run XPee till it
drops but by then I should be comfortable with Linux.

 

[Rich]

This is the way most folk are starting to think. I will run XPee till it
drops but by then I should be comfortable with Linux.

I bought a Mac for home this past weekend. I've been using Vista on my work
PC since November, and I've just given up on Microsoft. My home Athlon
3200+ XP machine will be used for this and that, until I can fully transfer
over. I'm finding moving things like e-mail to be a complete PITA - I
actually had to use Eudora to convert my Outlook Express e-mail, then clean
it using a Eudora Mailbox utility on the Mac side, then finally installing
Eudora for Mac and THEN FINALLY importing it to mail.app. I told my wife
that once we go Mac, we'll never go back, because it was such a PITA. From
what I've seen so far, I doubt I'll regret it.

The Mac just SCREAMS, btw. 20" iMac, Core 2 Duo.. coming back to work this
morning to my Vista box was a *painful* experience.

 

[SteveSch]

transfer over. I'm finding moving things like e-mail to be a complete
PITA - I actually had to use Eudora to convert my Outlook Express
e-mail, then clean it using a Eudora Mailbox utility on the Mac side,
then finally installing Eudora for Mac and THEN FINALLY importing it to
mail.app. I told my wife that once we go Mac, we'll never go back,
because it was such a PITA. From what I've seen so far, I doubt I'll
regret it.

Hi,

I run Kmail on Linux. It has a very nice conversion script that worked
great from pmail. Maybe they have one for the Mac. Even if it won't
convert exactly to your program it may convert to the proper format for
your machine to read. I had about 30,000 emails to transfer and I really
appreciated the script.

Steve

 

[Rich]

I run Kmail on Linux. It has a very nice conversion script that worked
great from pmail. Maybe they have one for the Mac. Even if it won't
convert exactly to your program it may convert to the proper format for
your machine to read. I had about 30,000 emails to transfer and I really
appreciated the script.

Steve

Actually, after doing my wife's mail, I found a program called "Mailbox
Cleaner for Eudora". You still have to import your OE mail from Eudora on
the Windows box, but once the Outlook Express.fol folder is on the Mac, you
just dump it into the mailbox cleaner and they will show up in Mail.app
after doing a rebuild on every folder within Mail. MUCH easier.

 

[Carlo Razzeto]

http://www.cs.auckland.ac.nz/~pgut001/pubs/vista_cost.html

Yet more posts about MS's DRM... I use Vista.. And I can tell you right now
just about everything people are saying about Paladium is over blown... It
only turns on if you happen to be accessing copy protected content. If your
content, whatever format it may come in, does not include copy protection
then it will be presented to the user as if Vist had no speacial DRM code
embedded in it. It's that simple.

Carlo

 

[Benjamin Gawert]

* Carlo Razzeto:

Yet more posts about MS's DRM... I use Vista.. And I can tell you right
now just about everything people are saying about Paladium is over
blown... It only turns on if you happen to be accessing copy protected
content. If your content, whatever format it may come in, does not
include copy protection then it will be presented to the user as if Vist
had no speacial DRM code embedded in it. It's that simple.

I use Vista since November last year, and I can confirm that. There is
no crippeling of audio files or any other such thing, non-DRM-protected
content plays just fine as it does in Windowsxp. Yes, Vista does have
DRM, but that doesn't mean it changes how your non-protected mutimedia
files playback. It just means that Vista can also playback DRM-protected
content which won't be possible with Windowsxp. If DRM-protected content
is good or bad is another story, though.

It's interesting that people still buy into every BS they read on some
website. Everyone with at least some basic IT knowledge should realize
that this article written by this nobody from NZ is just plain crap and
that he has absolutely no clue what he is talking about. Still, there
are dozens of people that buy that shit completely unreflected.

Benjamin

 

[Venom]

* Carlo Razzeto:


I use Vista since November last year, and I can confirm that. There is
no crippeling of audio files or any other such thing, non-DRM-protected
content plays just fine as it does in Windowsxp. Yes, Vista does have
DRM, but that doesn't mean it changes how your non-protected mutimedia
files playback. It just means that Vista can also playback DRM-protected
content which won't be possible with Windowsxp. If DRM-protected content
is good or bad is another story, though.

It's interesting that people still buy into every BS they read on some
website. Everyone with at least some basic IT knowledge should realize
that this article written by this nobody from NZ is just plain crap and
that he has absolutely no clue what he is talking about. Still, there
are dozens of people that buy that shit completely unreflected.

Benjamin

I love it. Palladium has nothing to do with DRM. Palladium belongs to
Microsoft. The only reason people know so little about Palladium is it takes
a lot of reading to understand what Bill Gates wants to do. This causes a
big problem out there in computerland because most of the users can't read
all that well. Never mind. It's your loss.

 

[Ron]

I love it. Palladium has nothing to do with DRM. Palladium belongs to
Microsoft. The only reason people know so little about Palladium is it takes
a lot of reading to understand what Bill Gates wants to do. This causes a
big problem out there in computerland because most of the users can't read
all that well. Never mind. It's your loss.

Palladium does have a DRM component. It's just a part of the overall
initiative, though.

 

[nobody]

* Carlo Razzeto:


I use Vista since November last year, and I can confirm that. There is
no crippeling of audio files or any other such thing, non-DRM-protected
content plays just fine as it does in Windowsxp. Yes, Vista does have
DRM, but that doesn't mean it changes how your non-protected mutimedia
files playback. It just means that Vista can also playback DRM-protected
content which won't be possible with Windowsxp. If DRM-protected content
is good or bad is another story, though.

It's interesting that people still buy into every BS they read on some
website. Everyone with at least some basic IT knowledge should realize
that this article written by this nobody from NZ is just plain crap and
that he has absolutely no clue what he is talking about. Still, there
are dozens of people that buy that shit completely unreflected.

Benjamin

Yes, and there's no end to yadayada marketing these days.

 

[gg]

Palladium is "secure trusted computing", a way to protect user identity and
information, preventing or making difficult unauthorized snooping.

I guess the crooks for malware, phishers and those who bent on ripping off
others info /work( including ripping music, move...) .