BEST way to set up a dual-boot Win98SE/WinXP system?

[Old Geezer]

I have WinXP OEM Home Edition coming, with a new hard drive. I also have
Win98SE which I am not using. I want to set up a dual-boot system with
these.

I did this some time ago with Win98 and Win2000, installing Win98 first and
then Win2000, letting the latter take care of managing the partitioning. (I
am a little fuzzy on the details now.) Is there anything special I need to
know about (or to avoid) when setting up a Win98SE/WinXP system in this way?
I have PartitionMagic 8.0 also, by the way.

 

[Guest]

Do the 98 first and the XP second and remember that 98
will only see FAT16 and FAT32 partitions.

 

[Phil]

Nope, works basicly the same way. Create two partitons, install win98 on one
partiton first, then xp on another. XP will setup the dual boot for you.
Or
You could try to use PM8 to partition the drive leaving xp, then install
win98, then use this page to help you get it going. This way you can leave
xp on and then add win98.
http://www.dougknox.com/xp/tips/xp_repair_9x.htm

 

[kurttrail]

I have WinXP OEM Home Edition coming, with a new hard drive. I also have
Win98SE which I am not using. I want to set up a dual-boot system with
these.

I did this some time ago with Win98 and Win2000, installing Win98 first and
then Win2000, letting the latter take care of managing the partitioning. (I
am a little fuzzy on the details now.) Is there anything special I need to
know about (or to avoid) when setting up a Win98SE/WinXP system in this way?
I have PartitionMagic 8.0 also, by the way.

I'd use BootMagic [Part of PartitionMagic] handle to which OS to boot,
not XP. That way XP's boot files will be part of the same partition as
XP. If you let XP's bootloader do the choosing, then XP's boot files
end up on the 98 partition.

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[Steve Nielsen]

I have WinXP OEM Home Edition coming, with a new hard drive. I also
have

Win98SE which I am not using. I want to set up a dual-boot system with
these.

I did this some time ago with Win98 and Win2000, installing Win98

first and

then Win2000, letting the latter take care of managing the

partitioning. (I

am a little fuzzy on the details now.) Is there anything special I

need to

know about (or to avoid) when setting up a Win98SE/WinXP system in

this way?

I have PartitionMagic 8.0 also, by the way.

I'd use BootMagic [Part of PartitionMagic] handle to which OS to boot,
not XP. That way XP's boot files will be part of the same partition as
XP. If you let XP's bootloader do the choosing, then XP's boot files
end up on the 98 partition.

Pretty sure you can use GRUB to do this, and it is free:

http://www.gnu.org/software/grub/

Steve

 

[kurttrail]

I have WinXP OEM Home Edition coming, with a new hard drive. I also
have

Win98SE which I am not using. I want to set up a dual-boot system
with these.

I did this some time ago with Win98 and Win2000, installing Win98

first and

then Win2000, letting the latter take care of managing the

partitioning. (I

am a little fuzzy on the details now.) Is there anything special I

need to

know about (or to avoid) when setting up a Win98SE/WinXP system in

this way?

I have PartitionMagic 8.0 also, by the way.

I'd use BootMagic [Part of PartitionMagic] handle to which OS to
boot, not XP. That way XP's boot files will be part of the same
partition as XP. If you let XP's bootloader do the choosing, then
XP's boot files end up on the 98 partition.

Pretty sure you can use GRUB to do this, and it is free:

http://www.gnu.org/software/grub/

Steve

Yeah, but the OP said he already has PM8, and BM8 is a part of that, so
why not use the software he already has?

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[Phil]

I have WinXP OEM Home Edition coming, with a new hard drive. I also
have Win98SE which I am not using. I want to set up a dual-boot
system with these.

I did this some time ago with Win98 and Win2000, installing Win98
first and then Win2000, letting the latter take care of managing the
partitioning. (I am a little fuzzy on the details now.) Is there
anything special I need to know about (or to avoid) when setting up
a Win98SE/WinXP system in this way? I have PartitionMagic 8.0 also,
by the way.

I'd use BootMagic [Part of PartitionMagic] handle to which OS to boot,
not XP. That way XP's boot files will be part of the same partition
as XP. If you let XP's bootloader do the choosing, then XP's boot
files end up on the 98 partition.

Do you like BootMagic? Does it work well? I never tried it.

 

[Ken Blake, MVP]

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Do the 98 first and the XP second and remember that 98
will only see FAT16 and FAT32 partitions.

Not to recommend that anyone use one, but just for the sake of
accuracy and completeness, let me point out that Windows 98 will
see FAT32, FAT16, *and* FAT12 partitions.

 

[kurttrail]

I have WinXP OEM Home Edition coming, with a new hard drive. I also
have Win98SE which I am not using. I want to set up a dual-boot
system with these.

I did this some time ago with Win98 and Win2000, installing Win98
first and then Win2000, letting the latter take care of managing the
partitioning. (I am a little fuzzy on the details now.) Is there
anything special I need to know about (or to avoid) when setting up
a Win98SE/WinXP system in this way? I have PartitionMagic 8.0 also,
by the way.

I'd use BootMagic [Part of PartitionMagic] handle to which OS to
boot, not XP. That way XP's boot files will be part of the same
partition as XP. If you let XP's bootloader do the choosing, then
XP's boot files end up on the 98 partition.

Do you like BootMagic? Does it work well? I never tried it.

Yes to both questions. I use it so that which ever OS I image, that
image can be restored without any boot manager being neccessary it it is
restored to the boot partition.

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[Phil]

I have WinXP OEM Home Edition coming, with a new hard drive. I also
have Win98SE which I am not using. I want to set up a dual-boot
system with these.

I did this some time ago with Win98 and Win2000, installing Win98
first and then Win2000, letting the latter take care of managing
the partitioning. (I am a little fuzzy on the details now.) Is
there anything special I need to know about (or to avoid) when
setting up a Win98SE/WinXP system in this way? I have
PartitionMagic 8.0 also, by the way.

I'd use BootMagic [Part of PartitionMagic] handle to which OS to
boot, not XP. That way XP's boot files will be part of the same
partition as XP. If you let XP's bootloader do the choosing, then
XP's boot files end up on the 98 partition.

Do you like BootMagic? Does it work well? I never tried it.

Yes to both questions. I use it so that which ever OS I image, that
image can be restored without any boot manager being neccessary it it
is restored to the boot partition.

Cool, thanks for the info.

 

[Steve Nielsen]

Steve Nielsen wrote:

kurttrail wrote:

I have WinXP OEM Home Edition coming, with a new hard drive. I also

have


Win98SE which I am not using. I want to set up a dual-boot system
with these.

I did this some time ago with Win98 and Win2000, installing Win98

first and


then Win2000, letting the latter take care of managing the

partitioning. (I


am a little fuzzy on the details now.) Is there anything special I

need to


know about (or to avoid) when setting up a Win98SE/WinXP system in

this way?


I have PartitionMagic 8.0 also, by the way.


I'd use BootMagic [Part of PartitionMagic] handle to which OS to
boot, not XP. That way XP's boot files will be part of the same
partition as XP. If you let XP's bootloader do the choosing, then
XP's boot files end up on the 98 partition.

Pretty sure you can use GRUB to do this, and it is free:

http://www.gnu.org/software/grub/

Steve

Yeah, but the OP said he already has PM8, and BM8 is a part of that, so
why not use the software he already has?

My Duh... sorry.

"Engage brain, read, comprehend..."

Now, where have I read that before?

Steve

 

[I'm Dan]

I'd use BootMagic [Part of PartitionMagic] handle to which OS to boot,
not XP. That way XP's boot files will be part of the same partition
as XP. If you let XP's bootloader do the choosing, then XP's boot
files end up on the 98 partition.

Do you like BootMagic? Does it work well? I never tried it.

I agree with kurttrail that the BEST way (since OP emphasized that) is to
avoid XP's boot loader and use a third-party boot manager.

BootMagic is convenient in that it comes as part of PM, and is an adequate
but not great boot manager. I haven't used the most recent version, but I
think it still requires a FAT partition to install into (though OP will have
his 98 partition if he wants to use that). It also installs from Windows,
but I prefer that my boot manager not tinker with any of my Windows
partitions. It can selectively hide *primary* partitions, but cannot
selectively hide some logical partitions while leaving others visible (you
can only hide the entire extended partition, not specific logical partitions
within it). It also can boot only primary partitions, not any OS's in
logical partitions, which limits the number of OS's you can multiboot.

BM should be adequate for the majority of dualboot scenarios, but there are
better options if you need more versatility. XOSL, for example, is not only
free, it doesn't touch your OS partitions, it can selectively hide logical
partitions (so you can have different data partitions visible to different
OS's), and it can even *boot* logical partitions -- I'm multibooting six
OS's, with three Windows OS's completely self-contained on logical
partitions.

 

[Al Smith]

BootMagic is convenient in that it comes as part of PM, and is an adequate

but not great boot manager. I haven't used the most recent version, but I
think it still requires a FAT partition to install into (though OP will have
his 98 partition if he wants to use that). It also installs from Windows,
but I prefer that my boot manager not tinker with any of my Windows
partitions. It can selectively hide *primary* partitions, but cannot
selectively hide some logical partitions while leaving others visible (you
can only hide the entire extended partition, not specific logical partitions
within it). It also can boot only primary partitions, not any OS's in
logical partitions, which limits the number of OS's you can multiboot.

I wouldn't recommend Boot Magic. The only time I tried using it,
to handle dual boot for Mandrake and Windows98, it screwed up so
badly, I could not boot into either, and had to do a reformat.

 

[Bruce Chambers]

Greetings --

The simplest way I've found to dual boot between Win9x and WinXP
would be to partition your drive(s) roughly as follows:

C: Primary FAT32 Win9x/Legacy Apps
D: Extended NTFS WinXP/Modern Apps

Adjust the partition sizes according to your actual hard drive(s)
size and the amount of space you'd like to allocate to each OS and its
applications.

Create the partitions using Win9x's FDISK so you can enable large
disk support (FAT32). (No need for 3rd party partitioning
utilities/boot managers and their frequent complications.)

Install Win9x first, being sure to select "C:\Windows" (or
D:\Windows, if you prefer) when asked for the default Windows
directory. When you subsequently install WinXP, be sure to specify
"D:\Winnt" (or "D:\Windows," "C:\Winnt" as referred/applicable) when
asked for the default Windows directory, to place it in the other
partition. The WinXP installation routine will automatically set up a
Multi-boot menu for you. The default settings for this menu can be
readily edited from within WinXP. NOTE: If you elect to place Win98
on the "D:" drive, you'll _have_ to leave the "C:" drive as FAT32.

This method can be adapted to using 2 physical hard drives by
placing the boot partition (C:, which still must be FAT32) and either
of the operating systems on the Primary Master hard drive, and the
second operating system on the second hard drive.

It is also possible to have a 3rd partition for shared
applications, but it would be necessary for such a partition to be
formatted in the common file format (FAT32). The applications would
also have to be installed into each OS (to ensure proper system file
placement and registry updates), one at a time, but the bulk of the
program files could be located on this common partition. I do not,
however, actually recommend doing this as, if you were to uninstall
such an application from one OS, you may not be able to gracefully
uninstall it from the second OS, having already deleted crucial
installation data during the first uninstall action.

Just about everything you need to know (URLs may wrap):

http://support.microsoft.com/support/kb/articles/Q217/2/10.ASP

http://www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/pro/using/howto/gettingstarted/multiboot.asp


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[Old Geezer]

Thanks very much, all!

Greetings --

The simplest way I've found to dual boot between Win9x and WinXP
would be to partition your drive(s) roughly as follows:

C: Primary FAT32 Win9x/Legacy Apps
D: Extended NTFS WinXP/Modern Apps

Adjust the partition sizes according to your actual hard drive(s)
size and the amount of space you'd like to allocate to each OS and its
applications.

Create the partitions using Win9x's FDISK so you can enable large
disk support (FAT32). (No need for 3rd party partitioning
utilities/boot managers and their frequent complications.)

Install Win9x first, being sure to select "C:\Windows" (or
D:\Windows, if you prefer) when asked for the default Windows
directory. When you subsequently install WinXP, be sure to specify
"D:\Winnt" (or "D:\Windows," "C:\Winnt" as referred/applicable) when
asked for the default Windows directory, to place it in the other
partition. The WinXP installation routine will automatically set up a
Multi-boot menu for you. The default settings for this menu can be
readily edited from within WinXP. NOTE: If you elect to place Win98
on the "D:" drive, you'll _have_ to leave the "C:" drive as FAT32.

This method can be adapted to using 2 physical hard drives by
placing the boot partition (C:, which still must be FAT32) and either
of the operating systems on the Primary Master hard drive, and the
second operating system on the second hard drive.

It is also possible to have a 3rd partition for shared
applications, but it would be necessary for such a partition to be
formatted in the common file format (FAT32). The applications would
also have to be installed into each OS (to ensure proper system file
placement and registry updates), one at a time, but the bulk of the
program files could be located on this common partition. I do not,
however, actually recommend doing this as, if you were to uninstall
such an application from one OS, you may not be able to gracefully
uninstall it from the second OS, having already deleted crucial
installation data during the first uninstall action.

Just about everything you need to know (URLs may wrap):

http://support.microsoft.com/support/kb/articles/Q217/2/10.ASP

http://www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/pro/using/howto/gettingstarted/multiboot.asp


Bruce Chambers
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