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John H.
I use the Taiyo Yuden white printable cds.never had a coaster yet.
get the r200 or r220 printer you wont be sorry that you did,
John.H.
get the r200 or r220 printer you wont be sorry that you did,
John.H.
C
cmashieldscapting
John said:
Thanks, John. It was my plan to buy a batch of 50 Taiyo Yudens, and,
if they seem to work fine, stick with them, if not, switch to Verbatim
for the next batch.
I might buy an R 340 if there's one at a bargain, otherwise, for the
purposes for which I actually want the printer, don't see why an R 220
wouldn't do.
Cori
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cmashieldscapting
measekite wrote
I assume "card readers" are for digital cameras, which I don't have or
plan on getting.
Same here, if the cheap so-and-sos would fix it so it wasn't so
difficult for U. S. consumers to use their machine for that.
I'm thinking if I can get a bargain on the R 340 even if it's slightly
more it would be smarter to get the higher-end machine.
Cori
I assume "card readers" are for digital cameras, which I don't have or
plan on getting.
Same here, if the cheap so-and-sos would fix it so it wasn't so
difficult for U. S. consumers to use their machine for that.
I'm thinking if I can get a bargain on the R 340 even if it's slightly
more it would be smarter to get the higher-end machine.
Cori
Z
zakezuke
Firstly you should know that measekite is the troll of
comp.periphs.printers. He has no experence above and beyond his Canon
iP4000 and some HP product. One and a while he says something useful,
but before taking anything he has to say as the truth, review his
google profie.
http://groups.google.com/groups/pro...ADEx8x8Ar5cT9MycNaTjCAv8rhlH0Pnl47z4AZhN98BFg
They are used for more than digital cameras, they are often used for
sneaker net, as in getting data from point A to point B. I use mine on
my mp760 from time to time, mostly to copy data to CD-R.
It really is just one part, and a few button presses. I am using the
same tray on my ip3000, my mp760, and my ip5200. I also have hacked
trays and i've made a few out of photo paper and raison bran boxes.
If you go r2x0/r3x0 series. well, I would normally say you can get the
r200 referb from the epson store, but it looks like they are presently
out of stock. When they are in stock the r200 they are $59, or less
than the ink it comes with by about $10.00. They however currently
have the r220 for $71.00, and the r320 for $99. At least with the
r220, it's about the same cost as ink withink a buck or two, and if
it's not to your needs you only spent as much as the ink it comes with.
While in some cases I see spending more money, with the r3x0 series,
near as i'm aware, you just get a screen and card slots for your extra
dollars, not a better printer.
While i'm not a big fan of this series, they are under warranty for a
year, failure gets you free ink, and the price is so low if it only
lasts a year it's no great loss.
C
cmashieldscapting
zakezuke said:
Are the Canons enough better than the Epsons to justify any extra
trouble and expense in modifying them to print disks?
Cori
Z
zakezuke
In terms of hard core photo quality... I lean tward epson, though I
have not had a chance to test my new ip5200 side by side with my r200.
I still need to get ink for it. The last time I saw the ip8500 vs the
epson r800, i'd have to lean tward the epson in terms of hard core
photo quality, though it's pretty much a coin toss between the two
depending on the image.
The 8 tank ip8500 is not currently in production and can only be had on
closeout for between $300ish to $400ish, in the same ball park as a new
r800 but not a referbished one.
http://www.steves-digicams.com/2005_reviews/canon_ip5200_pg4.html
"The iP5200 is another of Canon's 5-color printers that leaves me
wondering why I own and use the 8-color i9900. When I see just how good
the photo prints look when using only the three primary colors (cyan,
magenta and yellow), I don't know why I need those other ink colors, or
the added expense. With the 1-picoliter size ink droplets the prints
are virtually grainless. I can only visually see imperfections after
scanning a print at 600dpi and then zooming in really close. Holding a
4×6" print in my hand and getting it as close as possible, I can see
nothing to complain about at all. For the average to the hypercritical
user I am sure that this printer will satisfy your photo printing as
well as your everyday printing needs. The color is simply brilliant,
the prints last and you'll certainly not be waiting for this printer to
do its job." --Steves Digicams
I do consider Canon, the ip4200/ip5200 to be a more reliable product,
this is based on my past experence with the r200 vs the ip3000 and
mp760. But I do consider epson to have the better photo printer, and
for print longevity it's no contest, it's the r800. Do consider canon
if you want a good general purpose printer that also does text very
well and CDs, if you are willing to get the tray and muck with the
buttons.
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Oldus Fartus
That would depend on what it is going to cost you to convert the Canon
to be able to print discs.
With the Pixma IP3000 the print quality is marginally below that of the
Epson, but this is probably more to do with the extra colour tanks on
the Epson. Regardless of that, print quality is still excellent,
either with the genuine or after-market inks. I find the Canon
software to be better, and the disc tray is of a better quality.
The one area I believe the Canon has a lead over the Epson, is with the
better paper handling. As well as the normal top feed, there is a
magazine built into the bottom of the printer, so two different types of
paper can be loaded simultaneously. Duplex printing is supported out of
the box. (Print one side of the paper, suck it back in, and print the
other side automagically.)
V
Voinin
Oldus said:
How would you modify the printer to print discs? I have the IP3000 and
if it's possible, I'd like to know. Looking at Canon's site, I don't
see anything, but I may not be looking in the right place.
Z
zakezuke
Voinin said:
Try http://www.canon-europe.com/ http://www.canon.com.au/ or
http://www.canon.com.hk
Rather than quote the details, i'll just link you to this site.
http://pixma.allhyper.com/
You know that door that says "canon" on it, that one that opens to
nothing, that's for the CD tray. $20 to $30 on e-bay, a few button
presses, software download, cd printing on the pixmas. I am an ip3000
user i've printed 536 cds on it using a combo of a hacked epson tray,
canon's offical tray type B, as well as a few cardboard jobbies I made
most recently for those too lazy to order from e-bay.
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cmashieldscapting
zakezuke said:
I'd have to be sure it was worth the extra bother. In what ways are
the Canons more reliable? Thanks.
Cori
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Oldus Fartus
M
measekite
he does not really know. i like canon better than epson and the canon
uses less ink and does less cleaning cycles if any when using oem ink.
but my friend has an epson r300 and it seems that the rxx series epsons
(even though they are ink guzzlers) has been very reliable. my hp has
also been very reliable.
of course reliability comes at a price. the price of using only oem ink.
M
measekite
the ip4000 photo quality is more than maginally better than the epson
and the business print quality is much better. that has to do with the
extra black for photo quality.
if printing of discs is that important then you can buy an rpson
r200/r2xx on sale for a few bucks more than a set of carts and just
dedicate it to that use.
and the business print quality is much better. that has to do with the
extra black for photo quality.
if printing of discs is that important then you can buy an rpson
r200/r2xx on sale for a few bucks more than a set of carts and just
dedicate it to that use.
Z
zakezuke
My offical CD count is on the ip3000 536, full color, there and abouts
of 4oz of ink. I'm still printing. My printer required manual deep
cleaning once. This is using MIS aftermarket ink.
The Epson r200, granted I was using aftermarket ink, was one sloppy
beast. Ink would get on the rollers, and ink would collect on the
waste station wiper and slop ink everywhere, eventualy to what I
believe to be an aligment sensor which caused the printer to stop
printing.
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Roger
I have a 320 which has worked well on "printable" CDs and DVDs. Not
worth a darn on regular CDs and DVDs.
Quality of the printing is good, drys to safe handeling in about 10
minutes.
Only drawback I can see is the ink is *expensive*. It's miserly on ink
but a set of 6 of those little cartridges will run between $80 and $90
USD unless you find them on sale.
Roger Halstead (K8RI & ARRL life member)
(N833R, S# CD-2 Worlds oldest Debonair)
www.rogerhalstead.com
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Mark²
Roger said:
I wouldn't expect any printer to fare well on non-printable discs though...
There is a reason why discs are made with special printable surfaces.
Mine is immediately dry enough to handle...right out of the printer...which
is important, since my printer is a part of a robotic printing/burning
system, and the next disc is quickly placed on the previously printed disc.
A very slick system. I can set it up and leave... When I return, there are
100 full, edge-to-edge DVDs...all burned and beautifully printed.
The 480i uses a simple black and a tri-color cartridge made by HP.
It isn't cheap per cartridge, but you can print a TON between cartidge
swaps.
-I've actually been quite amazed at the numbers, including full coverage
graphics.
-Mark²
J
John H.
Mark² said:I wouldn't expect any printer to fare well on non-printable discs though...
There is a reason why discs are made with special printable surfaces.
Mine is immediately dry enough to handle...right out of the printer...which
is important, since my printer is a part of a robotic printing/burning
system, and the next disc is quickly placed on the previously printed disc.
A very slick system. I can set it up and leave... When I return, there are
100 full, edge-to-edge DVDs...all burned and beautifully printed.
The 480i uses a simple black and a tri-color cartridge made by HP.
It isn't cheap per cartridge, but you can print a TON between cartidge
swaps.
-I've actually been quite amazed at the numbers, including full coverage
graphics.
-Mark²
the 480i is a little expensive at $ 1149.00 on sale
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Mark²
John said:
That is a bit steep... I likely wouldn't pay that, though as a part of the
Rimage 2000i, it is a great system.
He said he wanted to know the best inkjet CD/DVD printer...
-So there ya go.
The "best" is rarely cheap.
M
measekite
Lookat the Rxx series Epson using Epson ink. I know someone who printed
over a 1,000 CD's with it and it is still going. He did have some
trouble with the tray but that is a known problem.
over a 1,000 CD's with it and it is still going. He did have some
trouble with the tray but that is a known problem.
M
Mark²
measekite said:
I already own the 2000i (which has the 480i built into it), so I'm not in
the market.
-But depending on coverage, I can get between 400 and 1400 discs from one
set of cartridges on the Rimage...so your numbers on the Epson--while
excellent--aren't unheard of.