BCM 2003 and Vista Home Premium

[Steve]

I upgraded from XP to Vista this weekend and reinstalled my copy of MS
Office SBE 2003 with Business Contact Manager. HOwever when I went to
install the BCM it stated there is a known compatibility issue with Vista. I
should contact the manufacturer of the product. Well I can't find anything
on the MS site alluding to the compability issue and if they plan to resolve
it ( I am thinking not since they have had 4+ years to resolve it).

Does anyone know what the issue is? If they are going to fix it? I would
like to know since I would rather downgrade back to XP then to have to pay
for the upgrade to Office 2007.

Any help will be appreciated.

Steve

 

[Clinton Ford [MSFT]]

Steve,

This configuration is currently unsupported, but we're continuing work on a
service pack to address changes in Vista. If you're using Business Contact
Manager with a local database, this should work fine. Sharing databases
requires additional security configuration that may fail with a descriptive
error message.

Visit team blog at http://blogs.msdn.com/bcm
This posting is provided "AS IS" with no warranties, and confers no rights

in message ...

 

[Steve]

Clinton

I am using a local database. However the installation hangs during the
install at the very last step(s?) "Installing Services". Am I missing
something? I am not sharing the DB. However I did have the DB copied to the
same directory as in XP before I did the install. Would this be messing it
up?

Thanks
Steve

 

[Luther]

Clinton

I am using a local database. However the installation hangs during the
install at the very last step(s?) "Installing Services". Am I missing
something? I am not sharing the DB. However I did have the DB copied to the
same directory as in XP before I did the install. Would this be messing it
up?

Thanks
Steve

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Copy the database to the same folder is a good thing. v3 also uses
that folder.

I upgraded a machine with office2003/bcmv2 to a Vista beta, and the
basic BCM functionality kept working. I don't know if Vista changed in
the final release, or the setup program, which I didn't try, has
problems on Vista. Also, although sqlserver/MSDE had permission to go
anywhere on the disk on Xp, that may have changed on Vista. You may be
able to tinker with folder permissions and get it running, but your
best bet is probably to wait for the service pack Clinton mentioned.
Or upgrade to Office 2007...

 

[Steve]

I do think I may have to wait for the service pack although it willbe
interesting to see what they do

The crux of the problem seems to be That I had to do a completely clean
install because XP Pro couldn't be upgraded to Home Premium. I did the clean
install (probably best in the long run anyway) and had to reinstall Office
2003 SBE w/BCM. During the install it creates a Group BCMUsers with no
members. Apparently, Vista Home Premium has absolutely no facility to add a
user to a group. I tried loading the Local User and Groups snap-in and it is
disabled in Home Premium (although for the life of me I can;t figure out why
they would do that for Local Groups). I tried using NET.EXE to add a user to
a local group and kept receiving a system error 5.

So ... it seems I need to downgrade to XP so that I can use the BCM and hope
I find out when the service pack comes through (if ever)

 

[Luther]

I do think I may have to wait for the service pack although it willbe
interesting to see what they do

The crux of the problem seems to be That I had to do a completely clean
install because XP Pro couldn't be upgraded to Home Premium. I did the clean
install (probably best in the long run anyway) and had to reinstall Office
2003 SBE w/BCM. During the install it creates a Group BCMUsers with no
members. Apparently, Vista Home Premium has absolutely no facility to add a
user to a group. I tried loading the Local User and Groups snap-in and it is
disabled in Home Premium (although for the life of me I can;t figure out why
they would do that for Local Groups). I tried using NET.EXE to add a user to
a local group and kept receiving a system error 5.

So ... it seems I need to downgrade to XP so that I can use the BCM and hope
I find out when the service pack comes through (if ever)








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I know that with Xp, there was a note somewhere in the BCM docs that
sharing databases was only supported on Xp Pro, and not Home, although
that may have been limited to sharing the database with other
machines. Perhaps there's a similar limitation with BCM on Vista, as
the Home version is not intended for business use.

 

[Steve]

The thing is I am not trying to share the DB. I am just trying to use it on
the Laptop. I'm going to poke in the Vista groups to see if there is a way
to add a user to the BCMUsers group (which I think is hard coded in BCM) or
to grant me access to the BCM Databases

Thanks for you thoughts
Steve

I do think I may have to wait for the service pack although it willbe
interesting to see what they do

The crux of the problem seems to be That I had to do a completely clean
install because XP Pro couldn't be upgraded to Home Premium. I did the
clean
install (probably best in the long run anyway) and had to reinstall
Office
2003 SBE w/BCM. During the install it creates a Group BCMUsers with no
members. Apparently, Vista Home Premium has absolutely no facility to add
a
user to a group. I tried loading the Local User and Groups snap-in and it
is
disabled in Home Premium (although for the life of me I can;t figure out
why
they would do that for Local Groups). I tried using NET.EXE to add a user
to
a local group and kept receiving a system error 5.

So ... it seems I need to downgrade to XP so that I can use the BCM and
hope
I find out when the service pack comes through (if ever)

Clinton

I am using a local database. However the installation hangs during the
install at the very last step(s?) "Installing Services". Am I missing
something? I am not sharing the DB. However I did have the DB copied
to
the
same directory as in XP before I did the install. Would this be
messing
it
up?

Thanks
Steve

"Clinton Ford [MSFT]" <[email protected]>
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Steve,

This configuration is currently unsupported, but we're continuing
work
on
a service pack to address changes in Vista. If you're using
Business
Contact Manager with a local database, this should work fine.
Sharing
databases requires additional security configuration that may fail
with
a
descriptive error message.

Visit team blog athttp://blogs.msdn.com/bcm
This posting is provided "AS IS" with no warranties, and confers no
rights

in message ...
I upgraded from XP to Vista this weekend and reinstalled my copy of
MS
Office SBE 2003 with Business Contact Manager. HOwever when I went
to
install the BCM it stated there is a known compatibility issue with
Vista.
I should contact the manufacturer of the product. Well I can't find
anything on the MS site alluding to the compability issue and if
they
plan
to resolve it ( I am thinking not since they have had 4+ years to
resolve
it).

Does anyone know what the issue is? If they are going to fix it? I
would
like to know since I would rather downgrade back to XP then to have
to
pay for the upgrade to Office 2007.

Any help will be appreciated.

Steve- Hide quoted text -

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Copy the database to the same folder is a good thing. v3 also uses
that folder.

I upgraded a machine with office2003/bcmv2 to a Vista beta, and the
basic BCM functionality kept working. I don't know if Vista changed in
the final release, or the setup program, which I didn't try, has
problems on Vista. Also, although sqlserver/MSDE had permission to go
anywhere on the disk on Xp, that may have changed on Vista. You may be
able to tinker with folder permissions and get it running, but your
best bet is probably to wait for the service pack Clinton mentioned.
Or upgrade to Office 2007...- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

I know that with Xp, there was a note somewhere in the BCM docs that
sharing databases was only supported on Xp Pro, and not Home, although
that may have been limited to sharing the database with other
machines. Perhaps there's a similar limitation with BCM on Vista, as
the Home version is not intended for business use.