Bass and Treble sliders in Sound Settings??

G

Goat Tongue

I am about ready to explode in anger! I used to use
Windows ME for my music making! I have my studio mixer
running into my Line-IN jack and had NO problems in the
past. I just upgraded to Windows XP and now there is some
added feature that absolutly ruins my music making
process!!!

For some stupid reason there is a built-in feature that
allows you to adjust the BASS and TREBLE with a set of
sliders! This is causing my LINE-IN Jack to be OVERLY
sensitive in playback (Plays back signals WAY too loud
and clips) Recording the Line-In signal comes out well
within clipping limits visually but the sound quality is
crap an clips! THe point i'm trying to make is that there
is nothing consistant now! Any bass, treble and other
adjustments I make on my studio mixer are totally made
worthless because of this stupid feature that mutilates
ANY signal coming into my LINE-IN Jack. It is just
another variable that ruines everything.

I picture some Old Lady hooking her old record player up
to her computer and say..."Hey! I can make my old 45's
sound more rich and full if I adjust these little sliders
here!" Yet...for someone who needs to be able to record
EXACTLY what is heard....it's nothing but a roadblock.

In theory I could adjust the bass and treble sliders that
are built into Windows XP until the signal does not clip
but then the music sounds like total butt! Comes out FLAT
and still tries to clip the playback signal!
Basically...the old days...when I had Windows ME...the
sound(s) I heard from my studio mixer were exactly what
were being pumped into my Line-In jack. My MAIN volume
slider (on playback) was always up to the MAX along with
my WAV slider. My Line-In slider (on playback) was not
quite as loud. For Recording, the Line-In slider was
nearly up to the top! Not anymore!

Now when I get my levels perfect on my studio mixer and
un-mute the playback on Line-In; it is nothing but
horrible, loud clipping with the volume slider for line-
in BARELY up! (And I mean barely up!) I am not new to
music-making with computers. I've been using mine for
years and have it down to a science. The "added features"
they put into Windows XP have ruined it all it seems.

I have not found any way to disable this (Tone Control)
as they call it. If someone knows how or has any
idea...please e-mail me. This will be pathetic if I have
to un-install Windows XP and go back to Windows ME JUST
because they tried to tweak the audio features of the
O.S. I hope I'm making my point clear here.

I can give another example of what my situation is. To
help it all make sense. Think of it in terms of sound
cards. My sound card has EAX for example. Which means I
can choose from all these weird pre-sets that shape the
texture of the sounds that my computer plays back. For
example, I can make it sound like it's in a tunnel or
have different types of echos. That may sound really,
really cool but.... for music making this kind of thing
is POINTLESS and actually BAD. If you were to have one of
these settings on for playback...the music you're working
with and recording isn't actually what it will sound like
in the end! Make sense? What you hear in playback would
sound nifty..but it's not actually what's being created!
Ahhhhhhh! Sorry for ranting. I look forward to any input
from you folks! I seriously need to go outside and chill
out for awhile. After ALL of the time i've spent
upgrading..this is very frustrating. Please use my email
address to respond!

(e-mail address removed)
 
J

Jake

-----Original Message-----
I am about ready to explode in anger! I used to use
Windows ME for my music making! I have my studio mixer
running into my Line-IN jack and had NO problems in the
past. I just upgraded to Windows XP and now there is some
added feature that absolutly ruins my music making
process!!!

For some stupid reason there is a built-in feature that
allows you to adjust the BASS and TREBLE with a set of
sliders! This is causing my LINE-IN Jack to be OVERLY
sensitive in playback (Plays back signals WAY too loud
and clips) Recording the Line-In signal comes out well
within clipping limits visually but the sound quality is
crap an clips! THe point i'm trying to make is that there
is nothing consistant now! Any bass, treble and other
adjustments I make on my studio mixer are totally made
worthless because of this stupid feature that mutilates
ANY signal coming into my LINE-IN Jack. It is just
another variable that ruines everything.

I picture some Old Lady hooking her old record player up
to her computer and say..."Hey! I can make my old 45's
sound more rich and full if I adjust these little sliders
here!" Yet...for someone who needs to be able to record
EXACTLY what is heard....it's nothing but a roadblock.

In theory I could adjust the bass and treble sliders that
are built into Windows XP until the signal does not clip
but then the music sounds like total butt! Comes out FLAT
and still tries to clip the playback signal!
Basically...the old days...when I had Windows ME...the
sound(s) I heard from my studio mixer were exactly what
were being pumped into my Line-In jack. My MAIN volume
slider (on playback) was always up to the MAX along with
my WAV slider. My Line-In slider (on playback) was not
quite as loud. For Recording, the Line-In slider was
nearly up to the top! Not anymore!

Now when I get my levels perfect on my studio mixer and
un-mute the playback on Line-In; it is nothing but
horrible, loud clipping with the volume slider for line-
in BARELY up! (And I mean barely up!) I am not new to
music-making with computers. I've been using mine for
years and have it down to a science. The "added features"
they put into Windows XP have ruined it all it seems.

I have not found any way to disable this (Tone Control)
as they call it. If someone knows how or has any
idea...please e-mail me. This will be pathetic if I have
to un-install Windows XP and go back to Windows ME JUST
because they tried to tweak the audio features of the
O.S. I hope I'm making my point clear here.

I can give another example of what my situation is. To
help it all make sense. Think of it in terms of sound
cards. My sound card has EAX for example. Which means I
can choose from all these weird pre-sets that shape the
texture of the sounds that my computer plays back. For
example, I can make it sound like it's in a tunnel or
have different types of echos. That may sound really,
really cool but.... for music making this kind of thing
is POINTLESS and actually BAD. If you were to have one of
these settings on for playback...the music you're working
with and recording isn't actually what it will sound like
in the end! Make sense? What you hear in playback would
sound nifty..but it's not actually what's being created!
Ahhhhhhh! Sorry for ranting. I look forward to any input
from you folks! I seriously need to go outside and chill
out for awhile. After ALL of the time i've spent
upgrading..this is very frustrating. Please use my email
address to respond!

(e-mail address removed)
.
I hope getting this "off your chest" makes you feel
better. You're not the only one with sound problems that
XP has created. I hope the below website/program may be
of some help to you. Good luck.

mp3Trim & WavTrim
http://www.logiccell.com/~mp3trim/
 

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