Backup 101

K

Ken Blake

In
JustMe said:
Buy a 2nd hard drive if you have the room, they're dirt cheap
and a
great place to put backups of your files


I don't agree.

I don't recommend backup to a second non-removable hard drive
because it leaves you susceptible to simultaneous loss of the
original and backup to many of the most common dangers: severe
power glitches, nearby lightning strikes, virus attacks, even
theft of the computer. On the other hand, backup to a second
*removable* hard drive is fine.

In my view, secure backup needs to be on removable media, and not
kept in the computer. For really secure backup (needed, for
example, if the life of your business depends on your data) you
should have multiple generations of backup, and at least one of
those generations should be stored off-site.

My computer isn't used for business, but my personal backup
scheme uses two identical removable hard drives, which fit into a
sleeve installed in the computer. I alternate between the two,
and use Drive Image to make a complete copy of the primary drive.
 
H

Harry Ohrn

Colin my post was not directed at the OP. It was directed at you. You stated
that Home has the same backup program that Pro does. The Backup program that
ships with Home doesn't do an ASR. That makes it significantly more limited
in it's function than the one that ships with Pro. In any event both
versions of the program are on the edge of being useless. Neither will burn
to CD without packet writing software nor will they span disks or even split
files. I'd suggest a decent third party alternative and forget frustrating
people with the false hope that NTBackup will even marginally meet their
needs.

--

Harry Ohrn MS-MVP [Shell/User]
www.webtree.ca/windowsxp


Colin Barnhorst said:
No, it is not. I'm not sure what the connection is to the OP.

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Colin Barnhorst [MVP Windows - Virtual Machine]
(Reply to the group only unless otherwise requested)
Harry Ohrn said:
The NTBackup program that ships with Home is not able to do ASR.

--

Harry Ohrn MS-MVP [Shell/User]
www.webtree.ca/windowsxp


Colin Barnhorst said:
XP Home has the same backup program Pro does. It is just not installed
during setup. It is on the Home cd.

--
Colin Barnhorst [MVP Windows - Virtual Machine]
(Reply to the group only unless otherwise requested)
XP Home edition does not have a backup feature. XP Pro does. You can
buy a third party app like Symantac's Ghost drive. Backing up personal
files
such as documents, photos, etc. to a CD or an external USB drive is
also
good.
XP Home does have a Restore feature but that is only for system files.

:

Hello XPers

How do you backup your files? Other than just copying everything
onto
a
CD?
I'm looking to backup several gigabytes worth of data in case my hard
drive
crashes. Using XP Home.

Can these new USB drives be used for backups?

Robert
 
C

Colin Barnhorst

But Harry, ASR was never an issue in this thread. Why bring it up?
Backup.exe will use any hard drives attached. I don't understand why you
are talking about ASR in a thread about Backup.exe on XP Home. Of course I
know ASR is a feature only of Pro.

--
Colin Barnhorst [MVP Windows - Virtual Machine]
(Reply to the group only unless otherwise requested)
Harry Ohrn said:
Colin my post was not directed at the OP. It was directed at you. You
stated
that Home has the same backup program that Pro does. The Backup program
that
ships with Home doesn't do an ASR. That makes it significantly more
limited
in it's function than the one that ships with Pro. In any event both
versions of the program are on the edge of being useless. Neither will
burn
to CD without packet writing software nor will they span disks or even
split
files. I'd suggest a decent third party alternative and forget frustrating
people with the false hope that NTBackup will even marginally meet their
needs.

--

Harry Ohrn MS-MVP [Shell/User]
www.webtree.ca/windowsxp


Colin Barnhorst said:
No, it is not. I'm not sure what the connection is to the OP.

--
Colin Barnhorst [MVP Windows - Virtual Machine]
(Reply to the group only unless otherwise requested)
Harry Ohrn said:
The NTBackup program that ships with Home is not able to do ASR.

--

Harry Ohrn MS-MVP [Shell/User]
www.webtree.ca/windowsxp


XP Home has the same backup program Pro does. It is just not
installed
during setup. It is on the Home cd.

--
Colin Barnhorst [MVP Windows - Virtual Machine]
(Reply to the group only unless otherwise requested)
XP Home edition does not have a backup feature. XP Pro does. You can
buy a third party app like Symantac's Ghost drive. Backing up personal
files
such as documents, photos, etc. to a CD or an external USB drive is
also
good.
XP Home does have a Restore feature but that is only for system files.

:

Hello XPers

How do you backup your files? Other than just copying everything onto
a
CD?
I'm looking to backup several gigabytes worth of data in case my hard
drive
crashes. Using XP Home.

Can these new USB drives be used for backups?

Robert
 
C

Colin Barnhorst

I agree. Backups should be to devices and media that can be stored away
from the computer if need be.
 
H

Harry Ohrn

Colin you informed the OP that the backup program that ships with Home is
the same as the one that ships with Pro. You were incorrect. They are not
the same that is why I brought it up. To tell someone that 2 different
versions of a backup program are the same when you know that they are not
the same is unhelpful.

--

Harry Ohrn MS-MVP [Shell/User]
www.webtree.ca/windowsxp


Colin Barnhorst said:
But Harry, ASR was never an issue in this thread. Why bring it up?
Backup.exe will use any hard drives attached. I don't understand why you
are talking about ASR in a thread about Backup.exe on XP Home. Of course I
know ASR is a feature only of Pro.

--
Colin Barnhorst [MVP Windows - Virtual Machine]
(Reply to the group only unless otherwise requested)
Harry Ohrn said:
Colin my post was not directed at the OP. It was directed at you. You
stated
that Home has the same backup program that Pro does. The Backup program
that
ships with Home doesn't do an ASR. That makes it significantly more
limited
in it's function than the one that ships with Pro. In any event both
versions of the program are on the edge of being useless. Neither will
burn
to CD without packet writing software nor will they span disks or even
split
files. I'd suggest a decent third party alternative and forget frustrating
people with the false hope that NTBackup will even marginally meet their
needs.

--

Harry Ohrn MS-MVP [Shell/User]
www.webtree.ca/windowsxp


Colin Barnhorst said:
No, it is not. I'm not sure what the connection is to the OP.

--
Colin Barnhorst [MVP Windows - Virtual Machine]
(Reply to the group only unless otherwise requested)
The NTBackup program that ships with Home is not able to do ASR.

--

Harry Ohrn MS-MVP [Shell/User]
www.webtree.ca/windowsxp


XP Home has the same backup program Pro does. It is just not
installed
during setup. It is on the Home cd.

--
Colin Barnhorst [MVP Windows - Virtual Machine]
(Reply to the group only unless otherwise requested)
XP Home edition does not have a backup feature. XP Pro does. You can
buy a third party app like Symantac's Ghost drive. Backing up personal
files
such as documents, photos, etc. to a CD or an external USB drive is
also
good.
XP Home does have a Restore feature but that is only for system files.

:

Hello XPers

How do you backup your files? Other than just copying everything onto
a
CD?
I'm looking to backup several gigabytes worth of data in case my hard
drive
crashes. Using XP Home.

Can these new USB drives be used for backups?

Robert
 

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