backing up hard drive

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Guest

i am trying to back up my hard drive through the backup wizard. it is not
allowing me to switch to my e drive (cd) ..........it only works if i use
the 3 1/2 drive......any suggestions?
 
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Mike Hall \(MS-MVP\)

jpe

Complete system backups are beyond the scope of Windows Backup.. look to
using a program like Norton Ghost or Acronis TrueImage..
 
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Gordon

i am trying to back up my hard drive through the backup wizard. it is not
allowing me to switch to my e drive (cd) ..........it only works if i use
the 3 1/2 drive......any suggestions?

Correct - the XP Backup facility will not write to CD.......
 
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Doug Kanter

Gordon said:
Correct - the XP Backup facility will not write to CD.......

Other than floppies, what WILL it back up to? External hard drives or those
little mem chip things?
 
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Gordon

Other than floppies, what WILL it back up to? External hard drives or those
little mem chip things?

It's a crippled version of a backup program designed to write to tape
drive......it /may/ be OK to write to an external HDD......
 
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Doug Kanter

Gordon said:
It's a crippled version of a backup program designed to write to tape
drive......it /may/ be OK to write to an external HDD......

Yeah...crippled verson of Norton Backup, which worked very nicely. But
this....it seems to expect you to back up to another place on your hard
disk, or to floppies. How silly.
 
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Kerry Brown

Gordon said:
It's a crippled version of a backup program designed to write to tape
drive......it /may/ be OK to write to an external HDD......

Actually NTBackup is a very powerful program. It's also very hard to use,
poorly documented and generally a pain in the #$$. It is one of the few
programs that will successfully backup an Exchange server, domain controller
and a lot of other irrelevant stuff for XP. It is however free and once
learned an excellent backup solution for use with a tape drive, network
share, or external hard drive.

Kerry
 
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Doug Kanter

Kerry Brown said:
Actually NTBackup is a very powerful program. It's also very hard to use,
poorly documented and generally a pain in the #$$. It is one of the few
programs that will successfully backup an Exchange server, domain
controller and a lot of other irrelevant stuff for XP. It is however free
and once learned an excellent backup solution for use with a tape drive,
network share, or external hard drive.

Kerry

But not CDs, which maybe 8 zillion users would like to back up to (even
though it's not the optimal medium for the purpose). Hello....uncle
Bill......
 
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Gordon

Actually NTBackup is a very powerful program. It's also very hard to use,
poorly documented and generally a pain in the #$$. It is one of the few
programs that will successfully backup an Exchange server, domain controller
and a lot of other irrelevant stuff for XP. It is however free and once
learned an excellent backup solution for use with a tape drive, network
share, or external hard drive.

Kerry

However, most commercial setups do NOT use it, especially in a domain
environment. And most HOME users do NOT have tape drives or external HDDs
(although the latter are becoming more common), and the version that ships
with XP IS a crippled version of a commercial product.
 
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Mike Hall \(MS-MVP\)

Doug

Some of the CD copying software supplied with CDRW's enable backups to CD..
Nero 6 Ultra is one of them, I believe..
 
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Doug Kanter

Mike Hall (MS-MVP) said:
Doug

Some of the CD copying software supplied with CDRW's enable backups to
CD.. Nero 6 Ultra is one of them, I believe..

Just got a new machine. CD burner came with Nero, which, contrary to glowing
reports elsewhere, works as well as a rubber crutch. Admittedly, I haven't
had time to concentrate on tweaking. This weekend...maybe. Meanwhile,
there's a loaded gun on the desk. :)
 
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Kerry Brown

Gordon said:
However, most commercial setups do NOT use it, especially in a domain
environment. And most HOME users do NOT have tape drives or external
HDDs (although the latter are becoming more common), and the version
that ships with XP IS a crippled version of a commercial product.

I beg to differ on the domain environment. I personally use it and I know of
many others who use it in a domain environment. It is very reliable, and as
I say can back up things that other programs costing many thousands of
dollars can't. It is also a standard that is on every Windows server so it's
always available. If you know it you can walk into a site and have the
server backup working and tested very quickly. Nothing to buy, no licensing
questions, etc, etc. If you want to see what it can do check out the backup
wizard in SBS 2003. I do agree it may not be the best solution for XP for
most users.

Kerry
 
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Kerry Brown

Doug said:
But not CDs, which maybe 8 zillion users would like to back up to
(even though it's not the optimal medium for the purpose).
Hello....uncle Bill......

That would be nice. It is available through a third party but if you're
buying a third party solution anyway then I would probably look for
something else for most users.

Kerry
 
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Doug Kanter

Kerry Brown said:
That would be nice. It is available through a third party but if you're
buying a third party solution anyway then I would probably look for
something else for most users.

Kerry

That's in the works. I was using Backup Exec for years, with Win98SE, and it
worked beautifully (with a tape drive or zip drive). Not sure if the version
I have will work with XP. And, when Symantec bought the product back from
Veritas, they eliminated the "personal" version. Maybe somebody would like
to buy me the 4 trillion dollar network version. :)
 
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Kerry Brown

Doug said:
That's in the works. I was using Backup Exec for years, with Win98SE,
and it worked beautifully (with a tape drive or zip drive). Not sure
if the version I have will work with XP. And, when Symantec bought
the product back from Veritas, they eliminated the "personal"
version. Maybe somebody would like to buy me the 4 trillion dollar
network version. :)

If you do want to use ntbackup with CD/DVD checkout firestreamer. They have
a free tiral. I've tried it. It works as advertised and they respond quickly
to email.

http://www.firestreamer.com/

Kerry
 
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Guest

I am the tech guy for a school district. I do complete server backups to a
NAS device using the built-in backup software (on Server2003). You can also
use an external hard drive I would imagine. It's somewhat handy because I
have just scheduled the appropriate backup to run at like 11pm or whatever
ever night when demand is much lower. However, I've never tested them.
 
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Jonny

The company that produces the 9X/ME/2K/XP operating systems has never
provided a software system for a full hard drive backup to other media while
in that operating system.
 

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