asus probe - is my CPU overheating?

O

obiborn_kenobe

I am using Asus probe to monitor CPU temp etc. occasionally it reports that
the CPU temp is VERY high - over 90 degrees. On the monitor it is shown as a
spike, as the temp always drops back to a normal loaded temp of about 55
degrees.

Do you think it is possible that I have a hardware glitch and the report is
correct? Or does Asus probe have a glitch and occasionally misreport?

Many thanks

Mark

Win XP
AMD Athlon Barton core 2.5 GHz with coolermaster fan
ASUS A7N8X Deluxe MoBo
1 X monitored Chassis Fan
Radeon 9600 SE graphics card (heatsink cooling)
Caselogic case with integral 300W PSU (cheap!)
average rest MoBo temp 25
average rest CPU temp 49
average loaded MoBo temp 28
average loaded CPU temp 55
ambient room temp 21
PC mounted in storage unit
 
N

Norman Brooks

Wow ........ those are high temperatures. I've heard Athlon's run hot. My P4
2.4Ghz idles at 28c to 29c
and max's out at 46c when doing extended virus or trojan scans or encrypting
large numbers of files or directories. Find out if you've got a local
computer store that caters to gamers and overclockers. They will have a
wide range of cooling options. Cooling the CPU proper is one, getting rid of
the heat buildup in the case is another. Heat is enemy #1 for any digital
device !
 
E

ecco

First make sure you cpu is setting on top of your cpu correctly with some good
thermal past.
With the temps in that range, that could be the problem.

Update your bios if you have not done so yet.
 
M

Moods

obiborn_kenobe heeft ons zojuist aangekondigd :
I am using Asus probe to monitor CPU temp etc. occasionally it reports that
the CPU temp is VERY high - over 90 degrees. On the monitor it is shown as a
spike, as the temp always drops back to a normal loaded temp of about 55
degrees.

Do you think it is possible that I have a hardware glitch and the report is
correct? Or does Asus probe have a glitch and occasionally misreport?

The temp reading 'thing' occasionally misreport to the system, call it
a windows 'feature'.
Same as running speedfan and mbm or watching temps in aida32, if opened
all three temps go nuts,..
Don't worry,..
 
P

Paul Trewin

It sounds like you have a sticky CPU Fan. Get aVacum and clean out any dust
around the fan. Add a small dab of All-In -One machine oil on the fan
bearing.
 
B

billh

obiborn_kenobe said:
I am using Asus probe to monitor CPU temp etc. occasionally it reports that
the CPU temp is VERY high - over 90 degrees. On the monitor it is shown as a
spike, as the temp always drops back to a normal loaded temp of about 55
degrees.

Do you think it is possible that I have a hardware glitch and the report is
correct? Or does Asus probe have a glitch and occasionally misreport?

Many thanks

Mark

Win XP
AMD Athlon Barton core 2.5 GHz with coolermaster fan
ASUS A7N8X Deluxe MoBo
1 X monitored Chassis Fan
Radeon 9600 SE graphics card (heatsink cooling)
Caselogic case with integral 300W PSU (cheap!)
average rest MoBo temp 25
average rest CPU temp 49
average loaded MoBo temp 28
average loaded CPU temp 55
ambient room temp 21
PC mounted in storage unit
If it is couple of readings it is a glitch in Probe which is IMO known for
that sort of thing. Like I said in a previous post, I have had much better
luck with Motherboard Monitor. I don't know what measurement time interval
Probe uses between readings but if it is a few seconds devices can't heat or
cool that quickly which is another clue. If you see a gradual increase up to
a temperature like 50, 62, 75, 83, 90 then you probably have a real problem.
Single reading spikes are not physically likely unless the measurement
interval is long.
Billh
 
Q

Quanto

Duh............
billh said:
as
If it is couple of readings it is a glitch in Probe which is IMO known for
that sort of thing. Like I said in a previous post, I have had much better
luck with Motherboard Monitor. I don't know what measurement time interval
Probe uses between readings but if it is a few seconds devices can't heat or
cool that quickly which is another clue. If you see a gradual increase up to
a temperature like 50, 62, 75, 83, 90 then you probably have a real problem.
Single reading spikes are not physically likely unless the measurement
interval is long.
Billh
 
S

SteveH

billh said:
as
If it is couple of readings it is a glitch in Probe which is IMO known for
that sort of thing. Like I said in a previous post, I have had much better
luck with Motherboard Monitor. I don't know what measurement time interval
Probe uses between readings but if it is a few seconds devices can't heat or
cool that quickly which is another clue.

Try taking the HSF off of a running Athlon and see if it takes 'a few
seconds' to get beyond critical temps.

SteveH
 
B

billh

SteveH said:
shown heat

Try taking the HSF off of a running Athlon and see if it takes 'a few
seconds' to get beyond critical temps.

SteveH
Not the circumstances he has, is it? He has normal CPU temperatures with an
occasional spike that is ridiculously high and then it goes back to normal.
If the heatsink fell off it certainly wouldn't be going back to normal. I'm
just saying for a system that is normal his spike has little physical sense
within the monitoring constraints which is evidence his measuring program is
probably not reporting correctly. Couple that to known past Probe problems.
Billh
Billh
 
D

DaveW

If you mean it's 55C degrees at idle, that's too hot. And 90C will damage
the CPU. I have found Asus Probe to be accurate.
 
M

Moods

DaveW stelde dit idée voor :
If you mean it's 55C degrees at idle, that's too hot. And 90C will damage
the CPU. I have found Asus Probe to be accurate.


The software is reporting 90c, doesn't mean the proc *is* 90c,.. Got
it?
 
B

billh

Not the circumstances he has, is it? He has normal CPU temperatures with an
occasional spike that is ridiculously high and then it goes back to normal.
If the heatsink fell off it certainly wouldn't be going back to normal. I'm
just saying for a system that is normal his spike has little physical sense
within the monitoring constraints which is evidence his measuring program is
probably not reporting correctly. Couple that to known past Probe problems.
Billh
There are only a few things that will cause the CPU temp to rise apart from
the heatsink falling off. One is increased CPU voltage, another is
significantly faster clock frequency, and the other is loss of CPU fan.
Faster clock frequency is unlikely since the system would become unstable
and crash. The other two, voltage and CPU fan speeds are also monitored so
if they are bad there should be corresponding faulty values reported by
Probe. Loss of case fan would cause the base temperatures to shift slowly
and would not show up as a spike. I agree with another poster that Probes
values are generally accurate; however the odd screwy reading is not unheard
of.
Billh
 
O

obiborn_kenobe

the problem is very sporadic and happens when idle and under load - now you
mention it I have noticed that the fan speeds also spike and the voltage
spikes all at the same time....

I have downloaded aida32 and will wait for another spike in asus probe and
see if aida32 also reports it.

Mark
 
R

Rob Stow

Ian said:
Not according to AMD it isn't.

Technically not.

However, if your cooling system is so crappy that the cpu
idles at 55'C then you should be very concerned about what
temp the cpu is going to reach when it is working hard.
From that perspective, 55'C really is much too hot.
 
B

billh

Rob Stow said:
Technically not.

However, if your cooling system is so crappy that the cpu
idles at 55'C then you should be very concerned about what
temp the cpu is going to reach when it is working hard.
From that perspective, 55'C really is much too hot.

His original post says that it the CPU is 49 deg at idle and 55 loaded; MB
is 25 rest and 28 loaded. This is pretty well what my Athlon runs at.
Billh
 
R

Rob Stow

billh said:
His original post says that it the CPU is 49 deg at idle and 55 loaded; MB
is 25 rest and 28 loaded. This is pretty well what my Athlon runs at.
Billh

Seems a little high compared to mine, but nothing to worry about.
I'm currently getting 51'C cpu / 28 MB on an XP2600+ (266 MHz FSB version)
that has been running at 100% for a few hours now. Using the stock AMD fan.
Temps as reported by AsusProbe. (When I use a friends external meter +
infrared probe I get slightly lower readings.)
 

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