Are we in BIG troubles Guys ??

[Richard Urban]

I have created a folder in the root of C: (my Vista partition) called
Utility. I have installed 9 small applets to this folder. I can copy from
anywhere to this folder. I can delete from this folder at will, either from
across my local LAN, from my other 3 hard drives installed in the computer
or downloaded files from the internet.

See my other recent post.

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Regards,

Richard Urban
Microsoft MVP Windows Shell/User
(For email, remove the obvious from my address)

Quote from George Ankner:
If you knew as much as you think you know,
You would realize that you don't know what you thought you knew!

 

[Kerry Brown]

I have just confirmed this as well. I can create a folder on a Vista
computer and share it. I edited the permissions so that everyone had modify,
read, and write access. I could copy files to and from this folder no
problem on the Vista computer. It didn't matter if the files were located on
a network share or local. If I went to an XP computer and mapped a drive to
the share I could see the share. I could copy files from the share. I could
not copy files to the share from the XP computer. I tried using several
different users when mapping the drive including a local administrator from
the Vista pc. It didn't matter which account I used I could not copy from
the XP pc to the Vista pc while using the XP pc. I don't know of any reason
why or any workarounds. Maybe someone else will have a suggestion.

 

[Guest]

Colin, I have tried repeatedly to take ownership and set permissions on a
folder or subdirectory tree PRECISELY as you have described, and although
*some* files and subfolders *may* be changed, not all of them ever are.
There seems to be something else blocking the inheritance of these changes
made at higher levels in the directory tree. I, too, have many, many
thousands of files that I simply cannot change one-by-one. Surely there must
be some to make the ownership changes at the top level of a directory tree
and then have the changes inherited by *ALL* the subfolders and files in that
tree. Is there something else besides ticking that little box you mention
that affects inheritance by subordinate folders and files.

I would like to add that I am a home user, with 5 computers in my LAN. I am
NOT a corporation or business. I have physical security over all these
computers. I am the *sole* user, and sign in as administrator always. Why,
then, should I be *forced* to have the same degree of internal security (as
opposed to security from internet threats) that a large corporation would
have? Isn't this still a PERSONAL computer?! At the very least it seems
that MS should have provided some quick, simple, reliable way for home users
like me who are migrating to Vista from XP to make *all* necessary permission
changes in one or two steps, so that they can avoid this endless repetition
of *partial* changes.

Or am I right in concluding sometimes that the days of the "personal"
computer have disappeared forever?

Ben

 

[Adam Albright]

Colin, I have tried repeatedly to take ownership and set permissions on a
folder or subdirectory tree PRECISELY as you have described, and although
*some* files and subfolders *may* be changed, not all of them ever are.
There seems to be something else blocking the inheritance of these changes
made at higher levels in the directory tree. I, too, have many, many
thousands of files that I simply cannot change one-by-one. Surely there must
be some to make the ownership changes at the top level of a directory tree
and then have the changes inherited by *ALL* the subfolders and files in that
tree. Is there something else besides ticking that little box you mention
that affects inheritance by subordinate folders and files.

I would like to add that I am a home user, with 5 computers in my LAN. I am
NOT a corporation or business. I have physical security over all these
computers. I am the *sole* user, and sign in as administrator always. Why,
then, should I be *forced* to have the same degree of internal security (as
opposed to security from internet threats) that a large corporation would
have? Isn't this still a PERSONAL computer?! At the very least it seems
that MS should have provided some quick, simple, reliable way for home users
like me who are migrating to Vista from XP to make *all* necessary permission
changes in one or two steps, so that they can avoid this endless repetition
of *partial* changes.

Or am I right in concluding sometimes that the days of the "personal"
computer have disappeared forever?

Ben

The simple solution (till Microsoft fixes it) is just turn off UAC
from User Accounts in Control Panel. I've really tried to get along
with this "feature" and it remains a royal pain in the butt, no matter
what you hear here from apologists, IT DOES NOT WORK AS ADVERTISED.
Microsoft is aware of this and is desperately trying to get enough
freedback to attempt a fix. The catch 22 is to understand how this is
breaking down for some people, Microsoft is pleading with them not to
turn it off, otherwise they won't be able to see what things cause it
to act up. I'm tying to "help" in that respect, but its driving me
nuts leaving it on. For people that don't have a high tolerance for
getting annoyed constantly by the "feature", turn UAC off.

I like you and I suspect many users in a home or small business
setting have countless thousands of files. Even messing with
inheritance you can't always "take over" and change permissions that's
what some MVP's keep trying to deny and make excuses for trying to
blame users saying they don't know what they're doing. Other way
around.

 

[Kerry Brown]

Colin, I have tried repeatedly to take ownership and set permissions on a
folder or subdirectory tree PRECISELY as you have described, and although
*some* files and subfolders *may* be changed, not all of them ever are.
There seems to be something else blocking the inheritance of these changes
made at higher levels in the directory tree. I, too, have many, many
thousands of files that I simply cannot change one-by-one. Surely there
must
be some to make the ownership changes at the top level of a directory tree
and then have the changes inherited by *ALL* the subfolders and files in
that
tree. Is there something else besides ticking that little box you mention
that affects inheritance by subordinate folders and files.

In the Start search box type cmd. Right click cmd.exe in the list above and
pick Run as administrator. Use the takeown command to change the ownership.
Something like this should work to change all the files in a folder and
subfolders.

TAKEOWN /F path_to_folder /R /D Y

For all the parameters of the takeown command type TAKEOWN /? It can change
the owner to the administrators group, an account you specify, and much
more.

Once you have ownership you may also have to change the NTFS permissions so
you have permission to access the files.