Are there any true-crt monitors that are more than 21"?

[boe]

I've seen some TV's that claim to be CRTs but they don't support the
resolution or refresh - basically they are TV's with SVGA connectors. One
of my favorite CRT monitor manufacturers is Viewsonic but the largest they
have is a 21" monitor that is 3 years old. I was curious if there are any
larger CRTs available or if I'll have to wait for LCD technology to improve.

I tried out the dell but it seemed for lack of a more inspired term dull
when compared to my 8 year old monitor. And yes, I did adjust things but it
still seemed less vibrant and I'm not referring to just brightness or
contrast. The colors themselves seemed almost faded to a degree - of course
that is just my opinion and I can see there are others with VERY strong
opinions about the benefits of LCD.

 

[Tod]

I've seen some TV's that claim to be CRTs but they don't support the
resolution or refresh - basically they are TV's with SVGA connectors. One
of my favorite CRT monitor manufacturers is Viewsonic but the largest they
have is a 21" monitor that is 3 years old. I was curious if there are any
larger CRTs available or if I'll have to wait for LCD technology to improve.

I tried out the dell but it seemed for lack of a more inspired term dull
when compared to my 8 year old monitor. And yes, I did adjust things but it
still seemed less vibrant and I'm not referring to just brightness or
contrast. The colors themselves seemed almost faded to a degree - of course
that is just my opinion and I can see there are others with VERY strong
opinions about the benefits of LCD.

I would assume no company going to keep selling
large CRTs with LCD on the rise.

A flat 22" CRT monitor might give you a little more space.
Also the tubes that go into current CRT are only made by a few
(3-4)companies.

I've been really happy with my Hitachi 21" (.22 dot pitch) monitor.
Cornerstone used the same tubes, but both companies seem to be out
of the CRT business.

 

[dr ratt]

I've seen some TV's that claim to be CRTs but they don't support the
resolution or refresh - basically they are TV's with SVGA connectors. One
of my favorite CRT monitor manufacturers is Viewsonic but the largest they
have is a 21" monitor that is 3 years old. I was curious if there are any
larger CRTs available or if I'll have to wait for LCD technology to improve.

I tried out the dell but it seemed for lack of a more inspired term dull
when compared to my 8 year old monitor. And yes, I did adjust things but it
still seemed less vibrant and I'm not referring to just brightness or
contrast. The colors themselves seemed almost faded to a degree - of course
that is just my opinion and I can see there are others with VERY strong
opinions about the benefits of LCD.

iiyama do these 22" diamondtrons -
http://www.microdirect.co.uk/productlister.aspx?GroupID=461
as the best quality monitors are crts based on shadow mask technology i
think they'll hang around a while yet.

dr ratt

 

[boe]

I hate when they do this - it is 20" viewable. Viewsonic has a 21" and a
22" but both are 20" viewable. Hey - lets make the case EVEN bigger and we
can call it a 24" but still put the same size tube in it!

 

[J. Clarke]

I've seen some TV's that claim to be CRTs but they don't support the
resolution or refresh - basically they are TV's with SVGA connectors. One
of my favorite CRT monitor manufacturers is Viewsonic but the largest they
have is a 21" monitor that is 3 years old. I was curious if there are any
larger CRTs available or if I'll have to wait for LCD technology to
improve.

I tried out the dell but it seemed for lack of a more inspired term dull
when compared to my 8 year old monitor. And yes, I did adjust things but
it still seemed less vibrant and I'm not referring to just brightness or
contrast. The colors themselves seemed almost faded to a degree - of
course that is just my opinion and I can see there are others with VERY
strong opinions about the benefits of LCD.

Mitsubishi used to make CRT monitors up to IIRC 37", but they didn't have
resolution proportionate to the size--1024x768 was the most they'd take
without fuzzing out IIRC.

Best bet's an HDTV with DVI inputs and then use Powerstrip to get your video
board to feed it the highest HD resolution it will support--you may have to
do a good deal of tweaking to get timings that it's happy with.

 

[Redmond du Barrymond]

iiyama do these 22" diamondtrons -
http://www.microdirect.co.uk/productlister.aspx?GroupID=461
as the best quality monitors are crts based on shadow mask technology i
think they'll hang around a while yet.

dr ratt

Diamondtron tubes are made by Mitsubishi and are aperature grill
tubes.

 

[boe]

What are the different types of tubes? Is aperature grill good or bad?

 

[boe]

Thanks - I have a Mits 65" RPTV that is HD - never have been able to get a
decent picture even with powerstrip. I've spent about 2 hours and finally
that was as much as I was willing to put into it. It would be wonderful if
Mits came out with a Windows XP driver for this thing. I've read and posted
many times on Home Theatre Spot but so far no one has a definitive driver
that gives a nice display for this particular RPTV.

 

[dr ratt]

Diamondtron tubes are made by Mitsubishi and are aperature grill
tubes.

i know, i was responding to his comment about crts becoming unavailable.

dr ratt

 

[Redmond du Barrymond]

i know, i was responding to his comment about crts becoming unavailable.

dr ratt

Well, you suggested he buy the Diamondtron tube which is aperature
grill then you told him the best tubes are shadow mask. Which is not
true BTW. They both have their plus and minuses.

 

[Pluvious]

I've seen some TV's that claim to be CRTs but they don't support the
resolution or refresh - basically they are TV's with SVGA connectors. One
of my favorite CRT monitor manufacturers is Viewsonic but the largest they
have is a 21" monitor that is 3 years old. I was curious if there are any
larger CRTs available or if I'll have to wait for LCD technology to improve.

I tried out the dell but it seemed for lack of a more inspired term dull
when compared to my 8 year old monitor. And yes, I did adjust things but it
still seemed less vibrant and I'm not referring to just brightness or
contrast. The colors themselves seemed almost faded to a degree - of course
that is just my opinion and I can see there are others with VERY strong
opinions about the benefits of LCD.

Here's a HUGE list of 21"+ CRT's.

http://resellerratings.shopping.com/xPP-Monitors---21____25_~S-213~OR-0


Pluvious

 

[Redmond du Barrymond]

What are the different types of tubes? Is aperature grill good or bad?

It's a personal preference. I've owned both and I liked the aperature
grill better because the screen is flatter and brighter.

http://www.pcworld.com/reviews/article/0,aid,102513,pg,2,00.asp
Tube type: Shadow-mask displays employ a metal sheet perforated with
small holes to focus an electron beam that illuminates phosphors on
the inside of the tube. These monitors usually have a slightly curved
face, though some flat-screen models are available. Shadow-mask
monitors are generally the monitor of choice for use with drawing
applications such as CAD because they tend to render accurate straight
lines.

Other CRT monitors have aperture-grille tubes, which send their
electron beams through an array of thin vertical wires. The grille is
supported by one or two wires that cause a faint line to appear in the
bottom and top thirds of a white screen. Many aperture-grille models,
which tend to cost more than shadow-mask displays, have a flat face.
They typically render bright images, making them ideal for people who
work with graphics. Though they cost more, flat-faced models repay the
investment, because they present a clear, undistorted image and
reduced glare from ambient light.

 

[boe]

Good link - thanks!

It's a personal preference. I've owned both and I liked the aperature
grill better because the screen is flatter and brighter.

http://www.pcworld.com/reviews/article/0,aid,102513,pg,2,00.asp
Tube type: Shadow-mask displays employ a metal sheet perforated with
small holes to focus an electron beam that illuminates phosphors on
the inside of the tube. These monitors usually have a slightly curved
face, though some flat-screen models are available. Shadow-mask
monitors are generally the monitor of choice for use with drawing
applications such as CAD because they tend to render accurate straight
lines.

Other CRT monitors have aperture-grille tubes, which send their
electron beams through an array of thin vertical wires. The grille is
supported by one or two wires that cause a faint line to appear in the
bottom and top thirds of a white screen. Many aperture-grille models,
which tend to cost more than shadow-mask displays, have a flat face.
They typically render bright images, making them ideal for people who
work with graphics. Though they cost more, flat-faced models repay the
investment, because they present a clear, undistorted image and
reduced glare from ambient light.

 

[J. Clarke]

Here's a HUGE list of 21"+ CRT's.

http://resellerratings.shopping.com/xPP-Monitors---21____25_~S-213~OR-0

Actually it's a huge list of a 21" with a very few 22" and 24" and nothing
larger in a CRT. And many of the models on the list are no longer
available.

 

[boe]

Thanks! It looks like for some odd reason, the tube manufacturers don't
make much in the way of larger than 20" viewable. Seems a pity since I
still haven't seen an LCD which competes with my 8 year old 20" viewable
Viewsonic for both color and refresh.

I've bought quite a few LCDs for my clients and am still hoping to some day
plug in an LCD at Native Resolution and say wow - I'm going to replace my
CRT for this model. Or I'm hoping to see a posting on gizmodo or some such
place with an anouncement of Viewsonic or NEC/Mits about a new 24" or larger
standard fromat PC Monitor.

 

[dr ratt]

Well, you suggested he buy the Diamondtron tube which is aperature
grill then you told him the best tubes are shadow mask. Which is not
true BTW. They both have their plus and minuses.

i used that link as i was searching monitors myself, prior to reading the
post, & remembered seeing 22". i made no suggestion to buy it, i merely
pointed out the existence of products matching his spec. the op doesn't
regard it as true 22" though.
i seem to recall that top end shadow masks were supposed to reproduce colour
better than aperture grills. my knowledge here is out of date by a couple of
years so mayhap things have changed.
fwiw, my own personal preferrence in crts is aperture grill from iiyama
although i now only buy lcds, the space saving alone being an enormous
factor in the equation, imo.

dr ratt

 

[Minotaur]

They do that Washing machines and Dryers etc aswell.
Same motor, same cylinder size inside, but amazingly one model fits more
than the other. It seems fancy control panels amazingly make more space
inside.. lol