Applying a Layout Deletes Objects on Page

N

Naybag

I have an editable map on a blank slide. When I try to apply a layout to it,
the map disappears altogether. Even if reapply a "blank" layout, the map is
no longer on the page. Any ideas here?

I have several different slides with this same map, different states
highlighted, and applying the layout does the exact same thing. It just
completely removes the map. Other objects do remain on the page, such as text
boxes or legends.
 
E

Echo S

I've seen this happen with ungrouped charts and things. Are you sure the
map's being removed? Try not selecting anything, then hit your TAB key to
move through each object on the slide. I think it's probably become so small
you cannot see it.
 
E

Echo S

I've seen this happen with ungrouped charts and things. Try not selecting
anything on the slide, then you can hit the Tab key on your keyboard to move
through each object on the slide. I suspect the map has become so small you
can't see it.

You may need to create a new slide with appropriate layout and copy/paste
the map from the original slide to the new one. I've seen these problem
objects blow up (or "disappear") when you do that, also, though, so it may
not work.

If that's the case, right-click the object and copy, then Edit | Paste
Special as a WMF or EMF and try ungrouping that. If all else fails, Paste
Special as a PNG. At least you'll have an image of the object then, but it
will of course no longer be editable.

I've no idea what causes this and why it happens on some objects but not
others.

You could try round-tripping through HTML. I can't recall if I've tried that
on any of my files with these types of problem graphics....
http://www.pptworkbench.com/html/round_trip.htm
 
N

Naybag

I have tried tabbing through, and the object is definitely not there. I
don't know what it is about that particular map. Even when I copy the map
and paste it on a slide, it gave me issues. I had to delete any picture of
text placeholders on the slide before I could even get a "Paste" command to
work.

I will try Round Tripping on it later.

Echo S said:
I've seen this happen with ungrouped charts and things. Try not selecting
anything on the slide, then you can hit the Tab key on your keyboard to move
through each object on the slide. I suspect the map has become so small you
can't see it.

You may need to create a new slide with appropriate layout and copy/paste
the map from the original slide to the new one. I've seen these problem
objects blow up (or "disappear") when you do that, also, though, so it may
not work.

If that's the case, right-click the object and copy, then Edit | Paste
Special as a WMF or EMF and try ungrouping that. If all else fails, Paste
Special as a PNG. At least you'll have an image of the object then, but it
will of course no longer be editable.

I've no idea what causes this and why it happens on some objects but not
others.

You could try round-tripping through HTML. I can't recall if I've tried that
on any of my files with these types of problem graphics....
http://www.pptworkbench.com/html/round_trip.htm

--
Echo [MS PPT MVP] http://www.echosvoice.com
What's new in PPT 2007? http://www.echosvoice.com/2007.htm
Fixing PowerPoint Annoyances http://tinyurl.com/36grcd
PowerPoint 2007 Complete Makeover Kit http://tinyurl.com/32a7nx


Naybag said:
I have an editable map on a blank slide. When I try to apply a layout to
it,
the map disappears altogether. Even if reapply a "blank" layout, the map
is
no longer on the page. Any ideas here?

I have several different slides with this same map, different states
highlighted, and applying the layout does the exact same thing. It just
completely removes the map. Other objects do remain on the page, such as
text
boxes or legends.
 
E

Echo S

Do you know where the map came from originally?

--
Echo [MS PPT MVP] http://www.echosvoice.com
What's new in PPT 2007? http://www.echosvoice.com/2007.htm
Fixing PowerPoint Annoyances http://tinyurl.com/36grcd
PowerPoint 2007 Complete Makeover Kit http://tinyurl.com/32a7nx


Naybag said:
I have tried tabbing through, and the object is definitely not there. I
don't know what it is about that particular map. Even when I copy the map
and paste it on a slide, it gave me issues. I had to delete any picture
of
text placeholders on the slide before I could even get a "Paste" command
to
work.

I will try Round Tripping on it later.

Echo S said:
I've seen this happen with ungrouped charts and things. Try not selecting
anything on the slide, then you can hit the Tab key on your keyboard to
move
through each object on the slide. I suspect the map has become so small
you
can't see it.

You may need to create a new slide with appropriate layout and copy/paste
the map from the original slide to the new one. I've seen these problem
objects blow up (or "disappear") when you do that, also, though, so it
may
not work.

If that's the case, right-click the object and copy, then Edit | Paste
Special as a WMF or EMF and try ungrouping that. If all else fails, Paste
Special as a PNG. At least you'll have an image of the object then, but
it
will of course no longer be editable.

I've no idea what causes this and why it happens on some objects but not
others.

You could try round-tripping through HTML. I can't recall if I've tried
that
on any of my files with these types of problem graphics....
http://www.pptworkbench.com/html/round_trip.htm

--
Echo [MS PPT MVP] http://www.echosvoice.com
What's new in PPT 2007? http://www.echosvoice.com/2007.htm
Fixing PowerPoint Annoyances http://tinyurl.com/36grcd
PowerPoint 2007 Complete Makeover Kit http://tinyurl.com/32a7nx


Naybag said:
I have an editable map on a blank slide. When I try to apply a layout
to
it,
the map disappears altogether. Even if reapply a "blank" layout, the
map
is
no longer on the page. Any ideas here?

I have several different slides with this same map, different states
highlighted, and applying the layout does the exact same thing. It
just
completely removes the map. Other objects do remain on the page, such
as
text
boxes or legends.
 
N

Naybag

Unfortunately, I don't know where the map is from. It's one that we have
been using for years for our presentations. First time that I am seeing this
issue, but first time we are using the map in PPT 2007.
 
E

Echo S

Very interesting. If it's a slide you can share, I'd love to see it. email
is echos at indy dot net.
 
L

Lucy Thomson

Maybe it's time for a new map? ;-)

If it's of the USA there is an editable one on Mary Sauer's site:
http://msauer.mvps.org/graphics.htm

Lucy

--
Lucy Thomson
PowerPoint MVP
MOS Master Instructor
www.aneasiertomorrow.com.au

Come say hello at Office DevCon in Sydney
www.officedevcon.com.au



Naybag said:
I have tried tabbing through, and the object is definitely not there. I
don't know what it is about that particular map. Even when I copy the map
and paste it on a slide, it gave me issues. I had to delete any picture
of
text placeholders on the slide before I could even get a "Paste" command
to
work.

I will try Round Tripping on it later.

Echo S said:
I've seen this happen with ungrouped charts and things. Try not selecting
anything on the slide, then you can hit the Tab key on your keyboard to
move
through each object on the slide. I suspect the map has become so small
you
can't see it.

You may need to create a new slide with appropriate layout and copy/paste
the map from the original slide to the new one. I've seen these problem
objects blow up (or "disappear") when you do that, also, though, so it
may
not work.

If that's the case, right-click the object and copy, then Edit | Paste
Special as a WMF or EMF and try ungrouping that. If all else fails, Paste
Special as a PNG. At least you'll have an image of the object then, but
it
will of course no longer be editable.

I've no idea what causes this and why it happens on some objects but not
others.

You could try round-tripping through HTML. I can't recall if I've tried
that
on any of my files with these types of problem graphics....
http://www.pptworkbench.com/html/round_trip.htm

--
Echo [MS PPT MVP] http://www.echosvoice.com
What's new in PPT 2007? http://www.echosvoice.com/2007.htm
Fixing PowerPoint Annoyances http://tinyurl.com/36grcd
PowerPoint 2007 Complete Makeover Kit http://tinyurl.com/32a7nx


Naybag said:
I have an editable map on a blank slide. When I try to apply a layout
to
it,
the map disappears altogether. Even if reapply a "blank" layout, the
map
is
no longer on the page. Any ideas here?

I have several different slides with this same map, different states
highlighted, and applying the layout does the exact same thing. It
just
completely removes the map. Other objects do remain on the page, such
as
text
boxes or legends.
 

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