any chance to unlock all 16 pipes on x800 pro??

[zerang shah]

I'm considering buying an x800 pro and I'm just wondering if someone
will come up with a hack to unlock the extra four pipelines? ATI said
they did something at the hardware level to disable the other four
pipes - but even if they did, it might be possible to solder some
components or something to unlock the pipelines right?

I'm just worried they they did something during fabrication to disable
the extra four pipes - obviously trying to piece stuff together at .13
micron will be impossible for people like us.

 

[Bratboy]

Your worry is justified. ATI has said thier disabled at HW lvl so a hack
wont work anymore. That said who knows but according to ATI thats the
situation. Most likely the pipes are disabled on the Chip itself so the
chances of a solder to unlock would be impossible

 

[DaveW]

I'm afraid you're out of luck. You CANNOT solder at the .13 micron level,
which would be required.

 

[Dan]

Im sorry. I think I can remeber the the pro and the xt being both, 16
pipeslines?

Dan

 

[RipFlex]

The x800 pro 12 pipes and the x800 XT is 16. nuff said. Want 16 pipelines
fork out $100 more or wait until the cards are almost obsolete and buy one
then.

 

[bp]

The x800 pro 12 pipes and the x800 XT is 16. nuff said. Want 16 pipelines
fork out $100 more or wait until the cards are almost obsolete and buy one
then.

By then you're going to want the 32 pipe version. ;(

 

[LostSoul]

Id settle for a full pipe

 

[J. Clarke]

I'm afraid you're out of luck. You CANNOT solder at the .13 micron level,
which would be required.

Of course you can--you just need the right tools.

 

[Mudfish\(Co30\)]

Cutting is much easier than soldering though.


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[Sham B]

Of course you can--you just need the right tools.

Yeah, you only need an electron microscope and really steady hands.

S

 

[Asestar]

Not to forget an ultra portable, laser beam that can cut .13 micron

 

[J. Clarke]

Not to forget an ultra portable, laser beam that can cut .13 micron

Why use a laser when you have an electron beam already running that can both
cut and weld?

As for steadiness of the hands, that's what waldos and precision positioning
equipment are for.

 

[Asestar]

That electron beam is just for you to "see" what you are aiming at. It
does not cut or weld anything, except perhaps uranium neuclei if aimed
correctly

And then run the hell out of the city.. asap !

 

[J. Clarke]

That electron beam is just for you to "see" what you are aiming at. It
does not cut or weld anything, except perhaps uranium neuclei if aimed
correctly

Depends on what tool you're using. Electron beams are routinely used to
both cut and weld. And with a scanning tunnelling microscope you can even
put your joint together one atom at a time.

And then run the hell out of the city.. asap !

Sorry, but to fission uranium takes neutrons. An electron beam unless it's
got a Hell of a lot of power behind it will not penetrate the electron
shells of a uranium atom and even if it did the result would not be
fission.

 

[Asestar]

Damn.. i knew there would be some people who'd go technical, and point that
out Oh well, better sooner than later..

As for Scanning-Tunneling, it acts as 2 different tools. Sure it can move
atoms held in the tweezer, but moving 1 atom at a time would take ages to do
a *simple* 0.13micron cut or weld, right? I mean we need to move atleast
thousands of atoms out of the way. So that's why i suggested high precision
laser beam.

 

[Bratboy]

So lets see, go out and get $1,000's in equipment to save $100 on a card
hehe. Thats almost Bushian in its logic.

 

[J. Clarke]

Damn.. i knew there would be some people who'd go technical, and point
that out Oh well, better sooner than later..

As for Scanning-Tunneling, it acts as 2 different tools. Sure it can move
atoms held in the tweezer, but moving 1 atom at a time would take ages to
do a *simple* 0.13micron cut or weld, right? I mean we need to move
atleast thousands of atoms out of the way. So that's why i suggested high
precision laser beam.

The point is that there are tools in existence that allow this--the details
don't really matter unless one has a few million bucks to throw around.

 

[Thomas Andersson]

The point is that there are tools in existence that allow this--the
details don't really matter unless one has a few million bucks to
throw around.

Then again, if you had that money to throw around you MIGHT just not go for
the cheap version of the card

Best Wishes
Thomas

 

[Danny Greaves]

hehe... Use the laser one more time. I want some of what ever your smoking in
the pipe!

 

[Asestar]

hehe... Use the laser one more time. I want some of what ever your smoking in
the pipe!

Hmm.. let's see.. first, i don't smoke. If you want to smoke something
*good*, try smoking some burning plastic. It would taste worse than tobacco,
and it will even kill you faster! How better can smoking get?