Antivirus pop up

R

Ray &Fran

Hi folks .
I have a question for all you experts . I have windows XP home edition SP2
.. I try to keep it updated with all necessary updates and I have Anti Virus
protection From My ISP . Lately I have found while surfing some web sites I
will get a pop up that looks like an EXE program and says my computer may be
infected with a virus . The latest one today looked like a Microsoft warning
with the little colored security logo on the top and it started scanning
..It said it found a Trojan If I try to cancel ,close or exit it does not
seem to want to cancel or close . I need to do CTRL,Alt,DEl end task to get
it to stop and end . How would I know if it were really from Microsoft ??? I
usually do a virus scan to see If I have any viruses but It says nothing
found
 
T

Tom [Pepper] Willett

It's spyware/malware.

: Hi folks .
: I have a question for all you experts . I have windows XP home edition SP2
: . I try to keep it updated with all necessary updates and I have Anti
Virus
: protection From My ISP . Lately I have found while surfing some web sites
I
: will get a pop up that looks like an EXE program and says my computer may
be
: infected with a virus . The latest one today looked like a Microsoft
warning
: with the little colored security logo on the top and it started scanning
: .It said it found a Trojan If I try to cancel ,close or exit it does not
: seem to want to cancel or close . I need to do CTRL,Alt,DEl end task to
get
: it to stop and end . How would I know if it were really from Microsoft ???
I
: usually do a virus scan to see If I have any viruses but It says nothing
: found
:
: --
: Fran
:
:
:
 
D

DL

Your PC is infected with spyware / malaware, which is not the same or
detected by anti virus apps.
You say you have AV from your ISP, but is this installed on your PC or is it
only AV on your mail?

Download update & run all of these;
MS Defender (from MS)
SpyBot
Adaware
All are free
 
R

Ray &Fran

No the anti virus ,Anti spyware ,Fraud protection , Privacy manager and Pop
up blocker is installed on my Pc . It updates regularly and scans both pc
and e-mail The whole pkg . I am in Nova Scotia with Aliant and the whole
thing is called Aliant security service . I thought I was covered

--
Fran


| Your PC is infected with spyware / malaware, which is not the same or
| detected by anti virus apps.
| You say you have AV from your ISP, but is this installed on your PC or is
it
| only AV on your mail?
|
| Download update & run all of these;
| MS Defender (from MS)
| SpyBot
| Adaware
| All are free
|
|
| | > Hi folks .
| > I have a question for all you experts . I have windows XP home edition
SP2
| > . I try to keep it updated with all necessary updates and I have Anti
| > Virus
| > protection From My ISP . Lately I have found while surfing some web
sites
| > I
| > will get a pop up that looks like an EXE program and says my computer
may
| > be
| > infected with a virus . The latest one today looked like a Microsoft
| > warning
| > with the little colored security logo on the top and it started
scanning
| > .It said it found a Trojan If I try to cancel ,close or exit it does
not
| > seem to want to cancel or close . I need to do CTRL,Alt,DEl end task to
| > get
| > it to stop and end . How would I know if it were really from Microsoft
???
| > I
| > usually do a virus scan to see If I have any viruses but It says nothing
| > found
| >
| > --
| > Fran
| >
| >
| >
|
|
 
S

smlunatick

No the anti virus ,Anti spyware ,Fraud protection , Privacy manager and Pop
up blocker is installed on my Pc . It updates regularly and scans both pc
and e-mail The whole pkg . I am in Nova Scotia  with Aliant and the whole
thing is  called Aliant security service . I thought I was covered

--
Fran


| Your PC is infected with spyware / malaware, which is not the same or
| detected by anti virus apps.
| You say you have AV from your ISP, but is this installed on your PC or is
it
| only AV on your mail?
|
| Download update & run all of these;
| MS Defender (from MS)
| SpyBot
| Adaware
| All are free
|
|
|| > Hi folks .
| > I have a question for all you experts . I have windows XP home edition
SP2
| > . I try to keep it updated with all necessary updates and I have Anti
| > Virus
| > protection From My ISP . Lately I have found while surfing some web
sites
| > I
| > will get a pop up that looks like an EXE program and says my computer
may
| > be
| > infected with a virus . The latest one today looked like a Microsoft
| > warning
| > with the little colored security logo on the top and it started
scanning
| > .It said it found a Trojan  If I try to cancel ,close or exit it does
not
| > seem to want to cancel or close . I need to do CTRL,Alt,DEl end task to
| > get
| > it to stop and end . How would I know if it were really from Microsoft
???
| > I
| > usually do a virus scan to see If I have any viruses but It says nothing
| > found
| >
| > --
| > Fran
| >
| >
| >
|
|

These so-called "service" anti-virus security softwares are in my
opinion bogus! The is no software that can protect you 100%. You
still should install and run the mentioned spyware removal tools since
spywares/malwars are not in the same category as viruses and those
security system may not protect you from these.

Better safe than sorry!
 
R

Ray &Fran

So even though Aliant tells me I have anti spyware protection I do not

--
Fran


No the anti virus ,Anti spyware ,Fraud protection , Privacy manager and
Pop
up blocker is installed on my Pc . It updates regularly and scans both pc
and e-mail The whole pkg . I am in Nova Scotia with Aliant and the whole
thing is called Aliant security service . I thought I was covered

--
Fran


| Your PC is infected with spyware / malaware, which is not the same or
| detected by anti virus apps.
| You say you have AV from your ISP, but is this installed on your PC or
is
it
| only AV on your mail?
|
| Download update & run all of these;
| MS Defender (from MS)
| SpyBot
| Adaware
| All are free
|
|
|| > Hi folks .
| > I have a question for all you experts . I have windows XP home edition
SP2
| > . I try to keep it updated with all necessary updates and I have Anti
| > Virus
| > protection From My ISP . Lately I have found while surfing some web
sites
| > I
| > will get a pop up that looks like an EXE program and says my computer
may
| > be
| > infected with a virus . The latest one today looked like a Microsoft
| > warning
| > with the little colored security logo on the top and it started
scanning
| > .It said it found a Trojan If I try to cancel ,close or exit it does
not
| > seem to want to cancel or close . I need to do CTRL,Alt,DEl end task
to
| > get
| > it to stop and end . How would I know if it were really from Microsoft
???
| > I
| > usually do a virus scan to see If I have any viruses but It says
nothing
| > found
| >
| > --
| > Fran
| >
| >
| >
|
|

These so-called "service" anti-virus security softwares are in my
opinion bogus! The is no software that can protect you 100%. You
still should install and run the mentioned spyware removal tools since
spywares/malwars are not in the same category as viruses and those
security system may not protect you from these.

Better safe than sorry!
 
S

smlunatick

So even though Aliant tells me I have anti spyware protection I do not

--
Fran





These so-called "service" anti-virus security softwares are in my
opinion bogus! The is no software that can protect you 100%. You
still should install and run the mentioned spyware removal tools since
spywares/malwars are not in the same category as viruses and those
security system may not protect you from these.

Better safe than sorry!

You do have anti-spyware protection but usually only when their
controlling server is working correctly and your DSL service is work.
I'm on Bell in Quebec (similar to your ISP) and last year the DSL
service was completely out for 12 hours. During this outage, any
spyware / virus infected emails had the potential of infecting the PC.
 
R

Ray &Fran

would a spyware scan pick this up if one got through . I have scans
scheduled regularly

--
Fran


| > So even though Aliant tells me I have anti spyware protection I do not
| >
| > --
| > Fran
| >
| >
| >
| >
| >
| >
| > > No the anti virus ,Anti spyware ,Fraud protection , Privacy manager
and
| > > Pop
| > > up blocker is installed on my Pc . It updates regularly and scans both
pc
| > > and e-mail The whole pkg . I am in Nova Scotia with Aliant and the
whole
| > > thing is called Aliant security service . I thought I was covered
| >
| > > --
| > > Fran
| >
| >
| > >| > > | Your PC is infected with spyware / malaware, which is not the same
or
| > > | detected by anti virus apps.
| > > | You say you have AV from your ISP, but is this installed on your PC
or
| > > is
| > > it
| > > | only AV on your mail?
| > > |
| > > | Download update & run all of these;
| > > | MS Defender (from MS)
| > > | SpyBot
| > > | Adaware
| > > | All are free
| > > |
| > > |
| > > || > > | > Hi folks .
| > > | > I have a question for all you experts . I have windows XP home
edition
| > > SP2
| > > | > . I try to keep it updated with all necessary updates and I have
Anti
| > > | > Virus
| > > | > protection From My ISP . Lately I have found while surfing some
web
| > > sites
| > > | > I
| > > | > will get a pop up that looks like an EXE program and says my
computer
| > > may
| > > | > be
| > > | > infected with a virus . The latest one today looked like a
Microsoft
| > > | > warning
| > > | > with the little colored security logo on the top and it started
| > > scanning
| > > | > .It said it found a Trojan If I try to cancel ,close or exit it
does
| > > not
| > > | > seem to want to cancel or close . I need to do CTRL,Alt,DEl end
task
| > > to
| > > | > get
| > > | > it to stop and end . How would I know if it were really from
Microsoft
| > > ???
| > > | > I
| > > | > usually do a virus scan to see If I have any viruses but It says
| > > nothing
| > > | > found
| > > | >
| > > | > --
| > > | > Fran
| > > | >
| > > | >
| > > | >
| > > |
| > > |
| >
| > These so-called "service" anti-virus security softwares are in my
| > opinion bogus! The is no software that can protect you 100%. You
| > still should install and run the mentioned spyware removal tools since
| > spywares/malwars are not in the same category as viruses and those
| > security system may not protect you from these.
| >
| > Better safe than sorry!
|
| You do have anti-spyware protection but usually only when their
| controlling server is working correctly and your DSL service is work.
| I'm on Bell in Quebec (similar to your ISP) and last year the DSL
| service was completely out for 12 hours. During this outage, any
| spyware / virus infected emails had the potential of infecting the PC.
 
S

smlunatick

would a spyware scan pick this up if one got through . I have scans
scheduled regularly

--
Fran


| > So even though Aliant tells me I have anti spyware protection I do not
| >
| > --
| > Fran
| >
| >
| >| >
| >
| >
| > > No the anti virus ,Anti spyware ,Fraud protection , Privacy manager
and
| > > Pop
| > > up blocker is installed on my Pc . It updates regularly and scans both
pc
| > > and e-mail The whole pkg . I am in Nova Scotia with Aliant and the
whole
| > > thing is called Aliant security service . I thought I was covered
| >
| > > --
| > > Fran
| >
| >
| > >| > > | Your PC is infected with spyware / malaware, which is not the same
or
| > > | detected by anti virus apps.
| > > | You say you have AV from your ISP, but is this installed on your PC
or
| > > is
| > > it
| > > | only AV on your mail?
| > > |
| > > | Download update & run all of these;
| > > | MS Defender (from MS)
| > > | SpyBot
| > > | Adaware
| > > | All are free
| > > |
| > > |
| > > || > > | > Hi folks .
| > > | > I have a question for all you experts . I have windows XP home
edition
| > > SP2
| > > | > . I try to keep it updated with all necessary updates and I have
Anti
| > > | > Virus
| > > | > protection From My ISP . Lately I have found while surfing some
web
| > > sites
| > > | > I
| > > | > will get a pop up that looks like an EXE program and says my
computer
| > > may
| > > | > be
| > > | > infected with a virus . The latest one today looked like a
Microsoft
| > > | > warning
| > > | > with the little colored security logo on the top and it started
| > > scanning
| > > | > .It said it found a Trojan If I try to cancel ,close or exit it
does
| > > not
| > > | > seem to want to cancel or close . I need to do CTRL,Alt,DEl end
task
| > > to
| > > | > get
| > > | > it to stop and end . How would I know if it were really from
Microsoft
| > > ???
| > > | > I
| > > | > usually do a virus scan to see If I have any viruses but It says
| > > nothing
| > > | > found
| > > | >
| > > | > --
| > > | > Fran
| > > | >
| > > | >
| > > | >
| > > |
| > > |
| >
| > These so-called "service" anti-virus security softwares are in my
| > opinion bogus!  The is no software that can protect you 100%.  You
| > still should install and run the mentioned spyware removal tools since
| > spywares/malwars are not in the same category as viruses and those
| > security system may not protect you from these.
| >
| > Better safe than sorry!
|
| You do have anti-spyware protection but usually only when their
| controlling server is working correctly and your DSL service is work.
| I'm on Bell in Quebec (similar to your ISP) and last year the DSL
| service was completely out for 12 hours.  During this outage, any
| spyware / virus infected emails had the potential of infecting the PC.

Not every anti-spyware software will detect every piece of spyware
that is "floating" over the Internet. Part of a good anti-spyware
plan is to get, maintain and use a few different anti-spyware software
in order to try to "average out" the removals.
 
L

Laughingstar~*

It didn't mine, AVAST, nor Ad Aware, and Windows Defender was on, and has
been since day 1
 
D

DL

According to Aliant its an anti virus application, not spyware, the other
included items are immaterial.

As previously stated your PC is infected with malaware / trojans
 
R

Ray &Fran

The anti spyware application should not be immaterial since you need to pay
additional for the coverage
All are billed separately see info at link

http://productsandservice.aliant.ne...sandservices/security_services.jsp&curbody=59


--
Fran


| According to Aliant its an anti virus application, not spyware, the other
| included items are immaterial.
|
| As previously stated your PC is infected with malaware / trojans
|
| | > So even though Aliant tells me I have anti spyware protection I do not
| >
| > --
| > Fran
| >
| >
| >
| >> No the anti virus ,Anti spyware ,Fraud protection , Privacy manager and
| >> Pop
| >> up blocker is installed on my Pc . It updates regularly and scans both
pc
| >> and e-mail The whole pkg . I am in Nova Scotia with Aliant and the
whole
| >> thing is called Aliant security service . I thought I was covered
| >>
| >> --
| >> Fran
| >>
| >>
| >> | >> | Your PC is infected with spyware / malaware, which is not the same or
| >> | detected by anti virus apps.
| >> | You say you have AV from your ISP, but is this installed on your PC
or
| >> is
| >> it
| >> | only AV on your mail?
| >> |
| >> | Download update & run all of these;
| >> | MS Defender (from MS)
| >> | SpyBot
| >> | Adaware
| >> | All are free
| >> |
| >> |
| >> || >> | > Hi folks .
| >> | > I have a question for all you experts . I have windows XP home
| >> edition
| >> SP2
| >> | > . I try to keep it updated with all necessary updates and I have
Anti
| >> | > Virus
| >> | > protection From My ISP . Lately I have found while surfing some web
| >> sites
| >> | > I
| >> | > will get a pop up that looks like an EXE program and says my
computer
| >> may
| >> | > be
| >> | > infected with a virus . The latest one today looked like a
Microsoft
| >> | > warning
| >> | > with the little colored security logo on the top and it started
| >> scanning
| >> | > .It said it found a Trojan If I try to cancel ,close or exit it
does
| >> not
| >> | > seem to want to cancel or close . I need to do CTRL,Alt,DEl end
task
| >> to
| >> | > get
| >> | > it to stop and end . How would I know if it were really from
| >> Microsoft
| >> ???
| >> | > I
| >> | > usually do a virus scan to see If I have any viruses but It says
| >> nothing
| >> | > found
| >> | >
| >> | > --
| >> | > Fran
| >> | >
| >> | >
| >> | >
| >> |
| >> |
| >
| > These so-called "service" anti-virus security softwares are in my
| > opinion bogus! The is no software that can protect you 100%. You
| > still should install and run the mentioned spyware removal tools since
| > spywares/malwars are not in the same category as viruses and those
| > security system may not protect you from these.
| >
| > Better safe than sorry!
| >
| >
|
|
 
P

pcbutts1 [MS MVP]

Let me spell it out for you. YOU ARE INFECTED! Your paid
antivirus/antimalware software did not catch what you caught. Take the
advice people are giving you and use it to clean your system, it's all free.
Also use my free Remove-it software, it will remove that malware from your
system. Download it here http://pcbutts1.com/downloads/tools/tools.htm
 
D

DL

Let me spell it out, you have Anti Virus software supplied by Aliant you
DONT have spyware / malaware protection software.
The two are different, requiring different products to scan / protect /
remove

What is immaterial is the pop-up blocker,Form Filler & Privacy Manager

a.. Powerful **virus scanner** scans all files, applications, diskettes and
CD-ROM's on your computer
a.. "Always-on" protection that works in the background automatically
**scanning for viruses**
a.. Automatically updates with the latest virus information
 
R

Ray &Fran

Thanks DL for your Input.
I do know what the virus scanner does and I have it set as you suggested

I also know that the popup blocker,form filler and privacy manager are just
little extras they provide and all are working on my PC since I have them
turned ON

I would like to know why you say I do not have spyware/malware protection
by Aliant ? I pay the monthly charge for the product . It is turned on in
MY services . I receive notices of anti spyware updates during the day and
I have my PC set for scheduled spyware scans . If Aliant does not have this
software then I am paying monthly for a service I am not getting . Just
curious .

I will download the freeware just to be safe

--
Fran


| Let me spell it out, you have Anti Virus software supplied by Aliant you
| DONT have spyware / malaware protection software.
| The two are different, requiring different products to scan / protect /
| remove
|
| What is immaterial is the pop-up blocker,Form Filler & Privacy Manager
|
| a.. Powerful **virus scanner** scans all files, applications, diskettes
and
| CD-ROM's on your computer
| a.. "Always-on" protection that works in the background automatically
| **scanning for viruses**
| a.. Automatically updates with the latest virus information
|
| | > The anti spyware application should not be immaterial since you need to
| > pay
| > additional for the coverage
| > All are billed separately see info at link
| >
| >
http://productsandservice.aliant.ne...sandservices/security_services.jsp&curbody=59
| >
| >
| > --
| > Fran
| >
| >
| > | > | According to Aliant its an anti virus application, not spyware, the
| > other
| > | included items are immaterial.
| > |
| > | As previously stated your PC is infected with malaware / trojans
| > |
| > | | > | > So even though Aliant tells me I have anti spyware protection I do
not
| > | >
| > | > --
| > | > Fran
| > | >
| > | >
| > | >
| >
| > | >> No the anti virus ,Anti spyware ,Fraud protection , Privacy manager
| > and
| > | >> Pop
| > | >> up blocker is installed on my Pc . It updates regularly and scans
| > both
| > pc
| > | >> and e-mail The whole pkg . I am in Nova Scotia with Aliant and the
| > whole
| > | >> thing is called Aliant security service . I thought I was covered
| > | >>
| > | >> --
| > | >> Fran
| > | >>
| > | >>
| > | >> | > | >> | Your PC is infected with spyware / malaware, which is not the
same
| > or
| > | >> | detected by anti virus apps.
| > | >> | You say you have AV from your ISP, but is this installed on your
PC
| > or
| > | >> is
| > | >> it
| > | >> | only AV on your mail?
| > | >> |
| > | >> | Download update & run all of these;
| > | >> | MS Defender (from MS)
| > | >> | SpyBot
| > | >> | Adaware
| > | >> | All are free
| > | >> |
| > | >> |
| > | >> || > | >> | > Hi folks .
| > | >> | > I have a question for all you experts . I have windows XP home
| > | >> edition
| > | >> SP2
| > | >> | > . I try to keep it updated with all necessary updates and I
have
| > Anti
| > | >> | > Virus
| > | >> | > protection From My ISP . Lately I have found while surfing some
| > web
| > | >> sites
| > | >> | > I
| > | >> | > will get a pop up that looks like an EXE program and says my
| > computer
| > | >> may
| > | >> | > be
| > | >> | > infected with a virus . The latest one today looked like a
| > Microsoft
| > | >> | > warning
| > | >> | > with the little colored security logo on the top and it started
| > | >> scanning
| > | >> | > .It said it found a Trojan If I try to cancel ,close or exit it
| > does
| > | >> not
| > | >> | > seem to want to cancel or close . I need to do CTRL,Alt,DEl end
| > task
| > | >> to
| > | >> | > get
| > | >> | > it to stop and end . How would I know if it were really from
| > | >> Microsoft
| > | >> ???
| > | >> | > I
| > | >> | > usually do a virus scan to see If I have any viruses but It
says
| > | >> nothing
| > | >> | > found
| > | >> | >
| > | >> | > --
| > | >> | > Fran
| > | >> | >
| > | >> | >
| > | >> | >
| > | >> |
| > | >> |
| > | >
| > | > These so-called "service" anti-virus security softwares are in my
| > | > opinion bogus! The is no software that can protect you 100%. You
| > | > still should install and run the mentioned spyware removal tools
since
| > | > spywares/malwars are not in the same category as viruses and those
| > | > security system may not protect you from these.
| > | >
| > | > Better safe than sorry!
| > | >
| > | >
| > |
| > |
| >
| >
|
|
 
D

DL

You need to understand that Virus and Malaware/Trojans are different types
of infections.
AntiVirus applications generally do not have a good record of detecting this
type of spyware, though they may deal effectively with viruses.
Your anti virus definitions are being updated, that is the notices you
receive.

Your PC is infected with malaware, for this you need separate applications,
the ones below are all free
MS Defender is free and has real time scanning, ie it runs in the background
like your AV app.
http://www.microsoft.com/athome/security/spyware/software/default.mspx
SpyBot is free - you have to explicitly run it to scan your PC
http://www.safer-networking.org/en/index.html
Adaware have a free version - once again you have to manually scan
http://www.lavasoftusa.com/products/ad_aware_free.php

You should download update & run all three
NB None of the above are a replacement for an anti virus application, eg as
supplied by Aliant
 
R

Ray &Fran

do realize that Virus and Malaware/Trojans are different types
of infections.
I will download your suggestions. This is an item I am paying for should I
cancel this and save some money or is it useful and keep it

http://productsandservice.aliant.ne...t_id=16215&curbody=59&section=59&subsection=7

--
Fran


| You need to understand that Virus and Malaware/Trojans are different types
| of infections.
| AntiVirus applications generally do not have a good record of detecting
this
| type of spyware, though they may deal effectively with viruses.
| Your anti virus definitions are being updated, that is the notices you
| receive.
|
| Your PC is infected with malaware, for this you need separate
applications,
| the ones below are all free
| MS Defender is free and has real time scanning, ie it runs in the
background
| like your AV app.
| http://www.microsoft.com/athome/security/spyware/software/default.mspx
| SpyBot is free - you have to explicitly run it to scan your PC
| http://www.safer-networking.org/en/index.html
| Adaware have a free version - once again you have to manually scan
| http://www.lavasoftusa.com/products/ad_aware_free.php
|
| You should download update & run all three
| NB None of the above are a replacement for an anti virus application, eg
as
| supplied by Aliant
|
| | > Thanks DL for your Input.
| > I do know what the virus scanner does and I have it set as you
suggested
| >
| > I also know that the popup blocker,form filler and privacy manager are
| > just
| > little extras they provide and all are working on my PC since I have
them
| > turned ON
| >
| > I would like to know why you say I do not have spyware/malware
protection
| > by Aliant ? I pay the monthly charge for the product . It is turned on
in
| > MY services . I receive notices of anti spyware updates during the day
| > and
| > I have my PC set for scheduled spyware scans . If Aliant does not have
| > this
| > software then I am paying monthly for a service I am not getting . Just
| > curious .
| >
| > I will download the freeware just to be safe
| >
| > --
| > Fran
| >
| >
| > | > | Let me spell it out, you have Anti Virus software supplied by Aliant
you
| > | DONT have spyware / malaware protection software.
| > | The two are different, requiring different products to scan / protect
/
| > | remove
| > |
| > | What is immaterial is the pop-up blocker,Form Filler & Privacy Manager
| > |
| > | a.. Powerful **virus scanner** scans all files, applications,
diskettes
| > and
| > | CD-ROM's on your computer
| > | a.. "Always-on" protection that works in the background automatically
| > | **scanning for viruses**
| > | a.. Automatically updates with the latest virus information
| > |
| > | | > | > The anti spyware application should not be immaterial since you need
| > to
| > | > pay
| > | > additional for the coverage
| > | > All are billed separately see info at link
| > | >
| > | >
| >
http://productsandservice.aliant.ne...sandservices/security_services.jsp&curbody=59
| > | >
| > | >
| > | > --
| > | > Fran
| > | >
| > | >
| > | > | > | > | According to Aliant its an anti virus application, not spyware,
the
| > | > other
| > | > | included items are immaterial.
| > | > |
| > | > | As previously stated your PC is infected with malaware / trojans
| > | > |
| > | > | | > | > | > So even though Aliant tells me I have anti spyware protection I
do
| > not
| > | > | >
| > | > | > --
| > | > | > Fran
| > | > | >
| > | > | >
| > | > | >
| > | >
| >
| > | > | > On Jun 3, 11:18 am, "Ray &Fran" <[email protected]>
wrote:
| > | > | >> No the anti virus ,Anti spyware ,Fraud protection , Privacy
| > manager
| > | > and
| > | > | >> Pop
| > | > | >> up blocker is installed on my Pc . It updates regularly and
scans
| > | > both
| > | > pc
| > | > | >> and e-mail The whole pkg . I am in Nova Scotia with Aliant and
| > the
| > | > whole
| > | > | >> thing is called Aliant security service . I thought I was
covered
| > | > | >>
| > | > | >> --
| > | > | >> Fran
| > | > | >>
| > | > | >>
| > | > | >> | > | > | >> | Your PC is infected with spyware / malaware, which is not the
| > same
| > | > or
| > | > | >> | detected by anti virus apps.
| > | > | >> | You say you have AV from your ISP, but is this installed on
| > your
| > PC
| > | > or
| > | > | >> is
| > | > | >> it
| > | > | >> | only AV on your mail?
| > | > | >> |
| > | > | >> | Download update & run all of these;
| > | > | >> | MS Defender (from MS)
| > | > | >> | SpyBot
| > | > | >> | Adaware
| > | > | >> | All are free
| > | > | >> |
| > | > | >> |
| > | > | >> || > | > | >> | > Hi folks .
| > | > | >> | > I have a question for all you experts . I have windows XP
| > home
| > | > | >> edition
| > | > | >> SP2
| > | > | >> | > . I try to keep it updated with all necessary updates and I
| > have
| > | > Anti
| > | > | >> | > Virus
| > | > | >> | > protection From My ISP . Lately I have found while surfing
| > some
| > | > web
| > | > | >> sites
| > | > | >> | > I
| > | > | >> | > will get a pop up that looks like an EXE program and says
my
| > | > computer
| > | > | >> may
| > | > | >> | > be
| > | > | >> | > infected with a virus . The latest one today looked like a
| > | > Microsoft
| > | > | >> | > warning
| > | > | >> | > with the little colored security logo on the top and it
| > started
| > | > | >> scanning
| > | > | >> | > .It said it found a Trojan If I try to cancel ,close or
exit
| > it
| > | > does
| > | > | >> not
| > | > | >> | > seem to want to cancel or close . I need to do CTRL,Alt,DEl
| > end
| > | > task
| > | > | >> to
| > | > | >> | > get
| > | > | >> | > it to stop and end . How would I know if it were really
from
| > | > | >> Microsoft
| > | > | >> ???
| > | > | >> | > I
| > | > | >> | > usually do a virus scan to see If I have any viruses but It
| > says
| > | > | >> nothing
| > | > | >> | > found
| > | > | >> | >
| > | > | >> | > --
| > | > | >> | > Fran
| > | > | >> | >
| > | > | >> | >
| > | > | >> | >
| > | > | >> |
| > | > | >> |
| > | > | >
| > | > | > These so-called "service" anti-virus security softwares are in
my
| > | > | > opinion bogus! The is no software that can protect you 100%.
You
| > | > | > still should install and run the mentioned spyware removal tools
| > since
| > | > | > spywares/malwars are not in the same category as viruses and
those
| > | > | > security system may not protect you from these.
| > | > | >
| > | > | > Better safe than sorry!
| > | > | >
| > | > | >
| > | > |
| > | > |
| > | >
| > | >
| > |
| > |
| >
| >
|
|
 
D

DL

Don't cancel it, unless you replace to with another Antivirus application
You still don't seem to understand; the two types of infections need
different applications to protect / detect them
ie both an Antivirus appliction together with Spyware/malaware detection
applications
 
R

Ray &Fran

I would never cancel the antivirus protection . I will keep the Aliant anti
virus for $4.95 a month .

I was only questioning you about your thoughts on the anti spyware
application for an additional 4.95
I do understand they are 2 separate programs with 2 different functions
--
Fran


| Don't cancel it, unless you replace to with another Antivirus application
| You still don't seem to understand; the two types of infections need
| different applications to protect / detect them
| ie both an Antivirus appliction together with Spyware/malaware detection
| applications
|
| | > do realize that Virus and Malaware/Trojans are different types
| > of infections.
| > I will download your suggestions. This is an item I am paying for should
I
| > cancel this and save some money or is it useful and keep it
| >
| >
http://productsandservice.aliant.ne...t_id=16215&curbody=59&section=59&subsection=7
| >
| > --
| > Fran
| >
| >
| > | > | You need to understand that Virus and Malaware/Trojans are different
| > types
| > | of infections.
| > | AntiVirus applications generally do not have a good record of
detecting
| > this
| > | type of spyware, though they may deal effectively with viruses.
| > | Your anti virus definitions are being updated, that is the notices you
| > | receive.
| > |
| > | Your PC is infected with malaware, for this you need separate
| > applications,
| > | the ones below are all free
| > | MS Defender is free and has real time scanning, ie it runs in the
| > background
| > | like your AV app.
| > | http://www.microsoft.com/athome/security/spyware/software/default.mspx
| > | SpyBot is free - you have to explicitly run it to scan your PC
| > | http://www.safer-networking.org/en/index.html
| > | Adaware have a free version - once again you have to manually scan
| > | http://www.lavasoftusa.com/products/ad_aware_free.php
| > |
| > | You should download update & run all three
| > | NB None of the above are a replacement for an anti virus application,
eg
| > as
| > | supplied by Aliant
| > |
| > | | > | > Thanks DL for your Input.
| > | > I do know what the virus scanner does and I have it set as you
| > suggested
| > | >
| > | > I also know that the popup blocker,form filler and privacy manager
are
| > | > just
| > | > little extras they provide and all are working on my PC since I
have
| > them
| > | > turned ON
| > | >
| > | > I would like to know why you say I do not have spyware/malware
| > protection
| > | > by Aliant ? I pay the monthly charge for the product . It is turned
| > on
| > in
| > | > MY services . I receive notices of anti spyware updates during the
day
| > | > and
| > | > I have my PC set for scheduled spyware scans . If Aliant does not
have
| > | > this
| > | > software then I am paying monthly for a service I am not getting .
| > Just
| > | > curious .
| > | >
| > | > I will download the freeware just to be safe
| > | >
| > | > --
| > | > Fran
| > | >
| > | >
| > | > | > | > | Let me spell it out, you have Anti Virus software supplied by
Aliant
| > you
| > | > | DONT have spyware / malaware protection software.
| > | > | The two are different, requiring different products to scan /
| > protect
| > /
| > | > | remove
| > | > |
| > | > | What is immaterial is the pop-up blocker,Form Filler & Privacy
| > Manager
| > | > |
| > | > | a.. Powerful **virus scanner** scans all files, applications,
| > diskettes
| > | > and
| > | > | CD-ROM's on your computer
| > | > | a.. "Always-on" protection that works in the background
| > automatically
| > | > | **scanning for viruses**
| > | > | a.. Automatically updates with the latest virus information
| > | > |
| > | > | | > | > | > The anti spyware application should not be immaterial since you
| > need
| > | > to
| > | > | > pay
| > | > | > additional for the coverage
| > | > | > All are billed separately see info at link
| > | > | >
| > | > | >
| > | >
| >
http://productsandservice.aliant.ne...sandservices/security_services.jsp&curbody=59
| > | > | >
| > | > | >
| > | > | > --
| > | > | > Fran
| > | > | >
| > | > | >
| > | > | > | > | > | > | According to Aliant its an anti virus application, not
spyware,
| > the
| > | > | > other
| > | > | > | included items are immaterial.
| > | > | > |
| > | > | > | As previously stated your PC is infected with malaware /
trojans
| > | > | > |
| > | > | > | | > | > | > | > So even though Aliant tells me I have anti spyware
protection
| > I
| > do
| > | > not
| > | > | > | >
| > | > | > | > --
| > | > | > | > Fran
| > | > | > | >
| > | > | > | >
| > | > | > | >
| > | > | >
| > | >
| >
| > | > | > | > On Jun 3, 11:18 am, "Ray &Fran" <[email protected]>
| > wrote:
| > | > | > | >> No the anti virus ,Anti spyware ,Fraud protection , Privacy
| > | > manager
| > | > | > and
| > | > | > | >> Pop
| > | > | > | >> up blocker is installed on my Pc . It updates regularly and
| > scans
| > | > | > both
| > | > | > pc
| > | > | > | >> and e-mail The whole pkg . I am in Nova Scotia with Aliant
| > and
| > | > the
| > | > | > whole
| > | > | > | >> thing is called Aliant security service . I thought I was
| > covered
| > | > | > | >>
| > | > | > | >> --
| > | > | > | >> Fran
| > | > | > | >>
| > | > | > | >>
| > | > | > | >> | > | > | > | >> | Your PC is infected with spyware / malaware, which is not
| > the
| > | > same
| > | > | > or
| > | > | > | >> | detected by anti virus apps.
| > | > | > | >> | You say you have AV from your ISP, but is this installed
on
| > | > your
| > | > PC
| > | > | > or
| > | > | > | >> is
| > | > | > | >> it
| > | > | > | >> | only AV on your mail?
| > | > | > | >> |
| > | > | > | >> | Download update & run all of these;
| > | > | > | >> | MS Defender (from MS)
| > | > | > | >> | SpyBot
| > | > | > | >> | Adaware
| > | > | > | >> | All are free
| > | > | > | >> |
| > | > | > | >> |
| > | > | > | >> || > | > | > | >> | > Hi folks .
| > | > | > | >> | > I have a question for all you experts . I have windows
XP
| > | > home
| > | > | > | >> edition
| > | > | > | >> SP2
| > | > | > | >> | > . I try to keep it updated with all necessary updates
and
| > I
| > | > have
| > | > | > Anti
| > | > | > | >> | > Virus
| > | > | > | >> | > protection From My ISP . Lately I have found while
| > surfing
| > | > some
| > | > | > web
| > | > | > | >> sites
| > | > | > | >> | > I
| > | > | > | >> | > will get a pop up that looks like an EXE program and
says
| > my
| > | > | > computer
| > | > | > | >> may
| > | > | > | >> | > be
| > | > | > | >> | > infected with a virus . The latest one today looked
like
| > a
| > | > | > Microsoft
| > | > | > | >> | > warning
| > | > | > | >> | > with the little colored security logo on the top and it
| > | > started
| > | > | > | >> scanning
| > | > | > | >> | > .It said it found a Trojan If I try to cancel ,close or
| > exit
| > | > it
| > | > | > does
| > | > | > | >> not
| > | > | > | >> | > seem to want to cancel or close . I need to do
| > CTRL,Alt,DEl
| > | > end
| > | > | > task
| > | > | > | >> to
| > | > | > | >> | > get
| > | > | > | >> | > it to stop and end . How would I know if it were really
| > from
| > | > | > | >> Microsoft
| > | > | > | >> ???
| > | > | > | >> | > I
| > | > | > | >> | > usually do a virus scan to see If I have any viruses
but
| > It
| > | > says
| > | > | > | >> nothing
| > | > | > | >> | > found
| > | > | > | >> | >
| > | > | > | >> | > --
| > | > | > | >> | > Fran
| > | > | > | >> | >
| > | > | > | >> | >
| > | > | > | >> | >
| > | > | > | >> |
| > | > | > | >> |
| > | > | > | >
| > | > | > | > These so-called "service" anti-virus security softwares are
in
| > my
| > | > | > | > opinion bogus! The is no software that can protect you
100%.
| > You
| > | > | > | > still should install and run the mentioned spyware removal
| > tools
| > | > since
| > | > | > | > spywares/malwars are not in the same category as viruses and
| > those
| > | > | > | > security system may not protect you from these.
| > | > | > | >
| > | > | > | > Better safe than sorry!
| > | > | > | >
| > | > | > | >
| > | > | > |
| > | > | > |
| > | > | >
| > | > | >
| > | > |
| > | > |
| > | >
| > | >
| > |
| > |
| >
| >
|
|
 

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