Annoying Pop Ups

C

chandroo

Recently, I am receiving a lot of annoying Pop Ups from
company, asking me to go to blockmessenger.com to stop
such an intrusion.
How do I get rid of these annoying pop-ups? Please help.
 
J

Jupiter Jones [MVP]

These ads are using Messenger Service.
Messenger Service is a valuable tool many use.
Like many tools, it can be exploited.

No need to pay for the fix.
For Messenger Service ads:
You need to install or enable a firewall:
http://support.microsoft.com/?kbid=330904
http://www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/pro/using/howto/communicate/stopspam.asp
Disabling Messenger Service can be a good idea, but it does not solve
the real problem.
The ads are not the real problem, the ads are only a symptom.
The real problem is open ports that allow unwanted traffic into the
computer.
Disabling Messenger does nothing for the open ports.
The firewall controls the traffic.

Internet Connection Firewall will not work if you have AOL.
AOL is not compatible with Windows XP Internet Connection Firewall
(ICF)
If you have AOL, you should contact AOL and/or get a 3rd party
firewall.

Disable Messenger Service:
Start/Control Panel, click Administrative Tools, click Services.
Go down to "Messenger".
Right click "Messenger" and select Properties.
Then under Start-up select DISABLE
Click OK and follow prompts
 
J

Jupiter Jones [MVP]

John;
Maybe you don't know how to use the firewall to control the Messenger
Service ads, that does not mean Microsoft can't control them.
You can stop Messenger Service ads by simply using the provided
firewall.
There are no upgrades or updates needed.
Since you don't know how, here it is again:
http://support.microsoft.com/?kbid=283673

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Please respond to newsgroup only for everyone's benefit.
 
P

Pinkvenom

-----Original Message-----
Recently, I am receiving a lot of annoying Pop Ups from
company, asking me to go to blockmessenger.com to stop
such an intrusion.
How do I get rid of these annoying pop-ups? Please help.
This Will Get rid off them, it worked for me.
Start>>Control Panel>>Switch to Classic
View>>Administrative tools>>Services>>Messenger>>Double
Click it then under startup type change to disabeled. and
press ok.
 
A

Alun Jones [MS MVP]

"John [MNVP]" said:
Yeh! And Microsoft can't control allowing pop-ups to be
disabled with IE 6!

Okay, let's rock.

1. Chandroo's messages come from the Messenger Service. Removing IE
completely wouldn't help. These messages can be blocked either by disabling
Messenger Service (bad idea), or enabling a firewall (good idea).
What a joke they could easily remove
them by coming out with a new version of IE like the
superior Mozilla, and Opera browsers have.

2. Want to see what happened last time they did anything like that?
<URL:http://infoeagle.bc.
edu/bc_org/avp/law/st_org/iptf/headlines/content/1999031702.html>

Put simply, Microsoft added spam filters to Outlook Express, and a company
(bluemountain.com) took them to court and got an injunction to have
Microsoft remove those spam filters on the grounds that they were
"anti-competitive" (even in the face of objections that what the filter did
to BlueMountain's "e-cards", it also did to Microsoft's similar offering).

If MS put a popup blocker into IE, you'd likely get a number of court-cases
resulting in its removal before we ever got to see the technology. Granted,
I'd like to see them try it, just in case they win this time.
But we will
probably have to wait 2 more f...g years for that to
happen!. Because MS "allows" companies to put pop-ups in
the browser to annoy us IE users!. And hey what a better
reason to upgrade to the next operating system coming out
in 2005 to get the new IE with a built in pop-up
remover!. Another great way to make a buck!.

3. Actually, if you want to blame anyone for the ability to add pop-ups, you
might want to blame the inventors of, oh, Javascript. Now, who would that
be? Oh, yes, Netscape.

Now, whether future versions of IE will include popup blockers or not, I
can't say (haven't researched the issue) - but I can suggest numerous
reasons why they don't, the biggest of which would be the threats of
lawsuits from advertisers and from existing popup blocker manufacturers.

Not every undesired result comes from well thought-out evil plans in
Redmond. In fact, very few do.

Alun.
~~~~

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A

Alun Jones [MS MVP]

"Pinkvenom" said:
This Will Get rid off them, it worked for me.
View>>Administrative tools>>Services>>Messenger>>Double
Click it then under startup type change to disabeled. and
press ok.

No, no, no! That's really not as helpful as it might seem. Those packets
are still getting in to your machine, as are any number of other unwanted
and unasked-for packets on the same ports. Now, since we've just seen an
exploit announced, and a sample for it posted, that uses those same ports to
provide instant access to your machine, I think it's worth blocking those
ports outright, don't you? Otherwise you're doing nothing more than turning
up your radio to cover the strange engine noise, rather than fixing the
engine.

Visit
http://www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/pro/using/howto/communicate/stopspam.asp
for a clear guide on how to enable the firewall in your machine. It'll
block nefarious packets of various types, including those responsible for
the Messenger Service spam. It'll allow you to keep Messenger Service
running (if for no other reason than to let you know if the firewall ever
fails!)

I'd do this as soon as you can, if I were you - we're all betting on when
the worm will be written to use the exploit sample that was posted recently,
and my money is on "inside of a week". Make sure it doesn't hit you - _and_
get rid of the Messenger Service spam. Enable the firewall that you already
have.

Alun.
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J

Jupiter Jones [MVP]

Another parallel:
Take the battery out of the smoke detector to stop the noise.
And, oh yes almost forgot, close the bedroom door so the smoke does
not bother you.

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Alun Jones said:
No, no, no! That's really not as helpful as it might seem. Those packets
are still getting in to your machine, as are any number of other unwanted
and unasked-for packets on the same ports. Now, since we've just seen an
exploit announced, and a sample for it posted, that uses those same ports to
provide instant access to your machine, I think it's worth blocking those
ports outright, don't you? Otherwise you're doing nothing more than turning
up your radio to cover the strange engine noise, rather than fixing the
engine.

Visit
http://www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/pro/using/howto/communicate/stopspam.asp
for a clear guide on how to enable the firewall in your machine. It'll
block nefarious packets of various types, including those responsible for
the Messenger Service spam. It'll allow you to keep Messenger Service
running (if for no other reason than to let you know if the firewall ever
fails!)

I'd do this as soon as you can, if I were you - we're all betting on when
the worm will be written to use the exploit sample that was posted recently,
and my money is on "inside of a week". Make sure it doesn't hit you - _and_
get rid of the Messenger Service spam. Enable the firewall that you already
have.

Alun.
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B

Bruce Chambers

Greetings --

Well, the canaries reference does rather "date" those of us who
understand it. ;-}

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Alun Jones said:
Thanks - I was starting to run out of good analogies, and nobody seems to
get my reference to canaries.

Alun.
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K

Kevin Davis³

No, no, no! That's really not as helpful as it might seem. Those packets
are still getting in to your machine, as are any number of other unwanted
and unasked-for packets on the same ports.

Correct. Set up a firewall, but still turn off the service. You
don't need it. Any unneccesary service should be turned off.
 
J

John

Ok than WHY is "Opera and Mozilla" allowed to have pop-up
blockers in their browsers and not Microsoft. Is IE sent
from God himself. Than Opera and Mozilla should be sued!.
What about Earthlink with it's pop-up blocker and spam
remover. Blue mountain should sue them!. Do you think
people really want spam or pop-up adds. No!. That is why
the government should now begin to crack down on
spamers.People want IE to have a built in pop-up remover
plain and simple, like the other browsers do!. Even
Safari from Apple has a pop-up remover. Let them sue!.
They'll be as popular with Windows users as SCO is with
Linux users. And SCO will loose that battle!.
-----Original Message-----
Yeh! And Microsoft can't control allowing pop-ups to be
disabled with IE 6!

Okay, let's rock.

1. Chandroo's messages come from the Messenger Service. Removing IE
completely wouldn't help. These messages can be blocked either by disabling
Messenger Service (bad idea), or enabling a firewall (good idea).
What a joke they could easily remove
them by coming out with a new version of IE like the
superior Mozilla, and Opera browsers have.

2. Want to see what happened last time they did anything like that?
<URL:http://infoeagle.bc.
edu/bc_org/avp/law/st_org/iptf/headlines/content/19990317 02.html>

Put simply, Microsoft added spam filters to Outlook Express, and a company
(bluemountain.com) took them to court and got an injunction to have
Microsoft remove those spam filters on the grounds that they were
"anti-competitive" (even in the face of objections that what the filter did
to BlueMountain's "e-cards", it also did to Microsoft's similar offering).

If MS put a popup blocker into IE, you'd likely get a number of court-cases
resulting in its removal before we ever got to see the technology. Granted,
I'd like to see them try it, just in case they win this time.
But we will
probably have to wait 2 more f...g years for that to
happen!. Because MS "allows" companies to put pop-ups in
the browser to annoy us IE users!. And hey what a better
reason to upgrade to the next operating system coming out
in 2005 to get the new IE with a built in pop-up
remover!. Another great way to make a buck!.

3. Actually, if you want to blame anyone for the ability to add pop-ups, you
might want to blame the inventors of, oh, Javascript. Now, who would that
be? Oh, yes, Netscape.

Now, whether future versions of IE will include popup blockers or not, I
can't say (haven't researched the issue) - but I can suggest numerous
reasons why they don't, the biggest of which would be the threats of
lawsuits from advertisers and from existing popup blocker manufacturers.

Not every undesired result comes from well thought-out evil plans in
Redmond. In fact, very few do.

Alun.
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A

Alun Jones [MS MVP]

"John" <[email protected]> said:
Ok than WHY is "Opera and Mozilla" allowed to have pop-up
blockers in their browsers and not Microsoft. Is IE sent
from God himself.

Close. IE comes from the suppliers of the operating system. It is
installed on every system. Other vendors' software is installed as a matter
of the user's choice.
Than Opera and Mozilla should be sued!.

Can't be sued for monopolistic, anti-competitive behaviours if you're the
small-fry competitor - only if you're the big monopoly.
What about Earthlink with it's pop-up blocker and spam
remover. Blue mountain should sue them!. Do you think
people really want spam or pop-up adds. No!.

It's not a matter of what I think, unfortunately - the courts are ruled over
by people who are quite significantly removed from the world we live in.
Even more so when it comes to computers, in many cases. How many judges do
you think do their own surfing, or read their own email? How many judges
have ever _seen_ a spam, or an unwanted popup? Let alone the numbers that
the rest of us have to deal with.

Once we get legislators and judges that have faced the problem on a
first-hand basis, we'll get something other than the fawning "anti-spam
bills" that do nothing more than say "I'm an anti-spam bill, and I say it's
okay to spam as long as you don't lie when you do so." No more anti-spam
than NASA's swimming pool is an anti-gravity room.
That is why
the government should now begin to crack down on
spamers.People want IE to have a built in pop-up remover
plain and simple, like the other browsers do!. Even
Safari from Apple has a pop-up remover. Let them sue!.

And they may do so (but Apple isn't a monopoly, so they'll have to find
different laws) - what you should do is to contact your representatives in
the two houses of Congress, and get them to write some legislation that
isn't funded by the DMA. Let them know that you will vote them out of
office, even if you have to vote Green in order to do so, if they do not
stop spam. Remind them that you want it stopped, not just labeled, because
noone has the right to plant their message in your inbox - they have to be
invited first.
They'll be as popular with Windows users as SCO is with
Linux users. And SCO will loose that battle!.

I'd really like to see spam stopped. But I think you're barking up the
wrong tree assuming that Microsoft are in league with spammers. [They may
be, but not from the evidence you've suggested]

Alun.
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K

Kent W. England [MVP]

These popups have gone from annoying to dangerous. Microsoft recently
published a critical update to fix a vulnerability in the underlying
service and an outline of an attack has been published on a well-known
bug tracking discussion forum.

It is only a matter of a short time before an exploit is unleashed. Get
a personal firewall and block the NetBIOS ports on your Internet
interface. This will stop the popups and eliminate the vulnerability.

You should also keep up-to-date on critical updates at
v4.windowsupdate.microsoft.com. The one I am talking about is 823980.
 

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