AMAZING - Way beyond PDF

[casey.o]

Go to
http://www.midwesthorsefair.com/digital-edition/2014/resources/index.htm

Click on options (top left)

Click "Download offline version"
(77megs)

unzip to a folder.

Click the .Exe That's all you need to do.....
(No other software needed).

It's like being on a website, but resembles a magazine. It's all
contained in that folder where you put it. It's self running, the
program is built into it, so there is nothing to install. It runs on a
program called YUDU. Flip pages by clicking on bottom right corner.
Use top bar to zoom, and do all sorts of stuff. Real easy to learn.
Runs on XP (not on Win98). You can run it manually, or use the
"presentation mode, which is a slideshow.

This is the first I've ever seen such a thing. It's really cool!
I can see this replacing PDF, and seems to run faster, and has a lot
more to offer.

 

[darkrats]

Thanks for posting this. I'm a big fan of PDFs so it's always nice to see
new ways of displaying them on screen.
I have seen websites that show PDFs this way (mostly catalogs) but usually
you can't download them for later reading.

I wonder how difficult it is to convert a regular PDF to YUDA, so I'll have
to do a little research,

Not as simple as having a single file associated with a book, but having the
reader built in was interesting.
Do you know if the YUDA document can be read on a MAC or any other systems?

 

[casey.o]

I downloaded the 75,967,547 byte 2014MidwestHorseFGu.zip file,
and if you extract DATA\content\35.dat and rename it to 35.swf,

It appears the thumb.dat files are .JPG
Rename it as .jpg and it opens in a picture viewer.
I only tried one of them, it was the first one thumb1.dat (I think thats
the name, I dont have my XP machine turned on now). I opened it in
notepad, and the start of the file was something like JFIF, which I
thought means .JPG (which it did). I could not understand what the
matching larger file was, but it did not open as a .jpg, and the
begining line was not something i understood.

I wonder why they name the .jpg files with a .dat extension? Weird!

One thing I really liked is that you can zoom a small picture on a page
which looks like 2 inches on the page, and zoom it to nearly full
screen, and it is still clear.

I wish that file was smaller, it took me about 5 hours to download, but
it dont matter because I was busy outdoors.

 

[Paul]

Go to
http://www.midwesthorsefair.com/digital-edition/2014/resources/index.htm

Click on options (top left)

Click "Download offline version"
(77megs)

unzip to a folder.

Click the .Exe That's all you need to do.....
(No other software needed).

It's like being on a website, but resembles a magazine. It's all
contained in that folder where you put it. It's self running, the
program is built into it, so there is nothing to install. It runs on a
program called YUDU. Flip pages by clicking on bottom right corner.
Use top bar to zoom, and do all sorts of stuff. Real easy to learn.
Runs on XP (not on Win98). You can run it manually, or use the
"presentation mode, which is a slideshow.

This is the first I've ever seen such a thing. It's really cool!
I can see this replacing PDF, and seems to run faster, and has a lot
more to offer.

The web pages seem to reference Adobe Flash.

I downloaded the 75,967,547 byte 2014MidwestHorseFGu.zip file,
and if you extract DATA\content\35.dat and rename it to 35.swf,
you can open it in the old Adobe Flash standalone player. The
result is an image. I gather the standalone tool presents
text and a static image, and that 35.dat file is an example
of a static image. This is my Flash Player 9, showing what I
presume is the image from page 35 "Free Hay Testing".

http://i57.tinypic.com/2chvz3o.jpg

The web started as "text and images and no tricks",
and it's kind of ironic that someone has gone to all
this trouble to return to text and images (repackaged).

I suspect this 75MB file is around 7 times bigger than it
needs to be. With a little work, I could get the same
content to you, using less bytes. Of course, if just
one of the pages contains other multimedia effects,
then all bets would be off the table. But if you're
just shipping images around, there are better ways than this
to do it.

Paul

 

[casey.o]

In this case, it's not a PDF file. Since it uses Flash, I'm guessing
it's a Flash animation. But I've used some online readers for books and
PDF files that also have page turning effects.

If it's using Flash, the flash must be built into it. The XP computer
I'm using is one I just built. I never installed Flash on it and it has
not been connected to the internet. I could not even activate yet since
the modem wont connect to MS.

 

[J. P. Gilliver (John)]

In message <[email protected]>,

not been connected to the internet. I could not even activate yet since
the modem wont connect to MS.

You can always use the telephone activation method; in fact I'm
surprised it hasn't prompted you to do so when it couldn't find a
connection.

 

[casey.o]

In message <[email protected]>,
(e-mail address removed) writes:
[]

not been connected to the internet. I could not even activate yet since
the modem wont connect to MS.

You can always use the telephone activation method; in fact I'm
surprised it hasn't prompted you to do so when it couldn't find a
connection.

I know, but I dont really feel like reading off all those numbers. I
have another modem coming and still have over 2 weeks to activate.

 

[casey.o]

I don't of a reason the YUDU reader couldn't be included as part of the
install process.

The only time I ever had a problem connecting XP to the internet with a
modem is when the XP installation didn't included drivers for that
particular modem, so I had to use another computer, get the drivers, and
manually install the drivers.

This modem refuses to work on both Win2K and XP. But it works great on
Win98. Go figure...... And the Win2k is the dual boot on the same
computer as Win98, so it's all the same hardware. I've also tried it on
3 different XP computers..... XP does not have the drivers built in, I
downloaded the CORRECT driver pack for the modem on the Win98 machine.
The pack contains one driver for 98 and another for 2K and XP. Well,
the 2K/XP one apparently dont work, and I did try to install the W98 one
in XP, but that did nto work either. I was going over this on this
newsgroup several weeks ago, but I finally gave up till I get another
modem. I do connect, but it wont transfer data after a few minutes.

I downloaded the YUDu from the horse fair on my Win98 machine, then
transferred it to an XP computer, since it would not install into W98
(which I figured would happen).

 

[casey.o]

For current Macs, no. For older ones, maybe. Apple and Adobe are on
the "outs", and Flash player is not available for current Macs. As a
result, when you click the link casey posted from the Midwest Horse Fair
home page, the page opens to 50% and hangs.

Have you tried to open it on the web again? You were trying right in
the middle of the event, so their website may have been overloaded.

 

[Ken Springer]

This modem refuses to work on both Win2K and XP. But it works great on
Win98. Go figure...... And the Win2k is the dual boot on the same
computer as Win98, so it's all the same hardware. I've also tried it on
3 different XP computers..... XP does not have the drivers built in, I
downloaded the CORRECT driver pack for the modem on the Win98 machine.
The pack contains one driver for 98 and another for 2K and XP. Well,
the 2K/XP one apparently dont work, and I did try to install the W98 one
in XP, but that did nto work either. I was going over this on this
newsgroup several weeks ago, but I finally gave up till I get another
modem. I do connect, but it wont transfer data after a few minutes.

I was lurking that thread, didn't have anything new to offer at the
time. Did anyone mention about the order things are done? And you may
know this. Some modems you install, then install the software. For
others, it's the reverse.

I downloaded the YUDu from the horse fair on my Win98 machine, then
transferred it to an XP computer, since it would not install into W98
(which I figured would happen).

--
Ken
Mac OS X 10.8.5
Firefox 25.0
Thunderbird 24.3.0
"My brain is like lightning, a quick flash
and it's gone!"

 

[Ken Springer]

Have you tried to open it on the web again? You were trying right in
the middle of the event, so their website may have been overloaded.

It wasn't the website. When it wouldn't open under Mountain Lion, I
checked Vista, and it worked perfectly.

It nags at the back of my mind that someone wrote a utility to solve
this, but it may have been for iOS devices. It was mentioned a long
time ago in my Mac user group.

It's also possible the YUDU Reader only runs under Windows. I didn't
check that out.


--
Ken
Mac OS X 10.8.5
Firefox 25.0
Thunderbird 24.3.0
"My brain is like lightning, a quick flash
and it's gone!"

 

[Paul]

It wasn't the website. When it wouldn't open under Mountain Lion, I
checked Vista, and it worked perfectly.

It nags at the back of my mind that someone wrote a utility to solve
this, but it may have been for iOS devices. It was mentioned a long
time ago in my Mac user group.

It's also possible the YUDU Reader only runs under Windows. I didn't
check that out.

The 75MB download (a standalone package) has a MacOS folder in it.

Give that a try instead.

As a Mac user, you must be used to hacking this stuff, to get it to work
When I used my Mac regularly, that was part of its "charm".

Paul

 

[Ken Springer]

The 75MB download (a standalone package) has a MacOS folder in it.

Give that a try instead.

As a Mac user, you must be used to hacking this stuff, to get it to work
When I used my Mac regularly, that was part of its "charm".

Paul

I did use the download originally to run it under Vista. But there's no
Mac program to use the data in the .zip file. So I dug a little deeper.
Learned nothing definitive, just thoughts/questions.

http://yudu.com/what-we-do/yudu-in-a-nutshell

From this page, it seems there is a Mac and Android phone/tablet
versions. But it would seem to indicate the use of HTML 5. Nothing
shown on the page about Flash Player. I waited over half an hour for a
Live Chat operator, finally gave up. Since YUDU seems to have
originated in England, maybe the chat was closed with no message to that
effect. Just an online version of "Your call is very important to
us..." LOL Finally gave up.

I did find a link to YUDU Free, but you have to register. Not that
interested. <G>

casey's link is to the Midwest Horse Fair. Maybe they, or their
contractor, are using an older version of the YUDU system, and possibly
thinking they didn't have very many Mac users, they simply removed the
Mac version of the program rather than upgrade. Or they screwed up when
they created the zip file.


--
Ken
Mac OS X 10.8.5
Firefox 25.0
Thunderbird 24.3.0
"My brain is like lightning, a quick flash
and it's gone!"

 

[Paul]

I did use the download originally to run it under Vista. But there's no
Mac program to use the data in the .zip file. So I dug a little deeper.
Learned nothing definitive, just thoughts/questions.

http://yudu.com/what-we-do/yudu-in-a-nutshell

From this page, it seems there is a Mac and Android phone/tablet
versions. But it would seem to indicate the use of HTML 5. Nothing
shown on the page about Flash Player. I waited over half an hour for a
Live Chat operator, finally gave up. Since YUDU seems to have
originated in England, maybe the chat was closed with no message to that
effect. Just an online version of "Your call is very important to
us..." LOL Finally gave up.

I did find a link to YUDU Free, but you have to register. Not that
interested. <G>

casey's link is to the Midwest Horse Fair. Maybe they, or their
contractor, are using an older version of the YUDU system, and possibly
thinking they didn't have very many Mac users, they simply removed the
Mac version of the program rather than upgrade. Or they screwed up when
they created the zip file.

Get your copy of 7-ZIP out and have a look.

2014MidwestHorseFGu.zip
2014MidwestHorseFGu\DATA\loader.app\Contents\MacOS\
Flash Player 17,252,160 bytes

There's an Info.plist and Pkglist down that way as well.
The header on that Flash Player file is not PE32, so it must
be some sort of Mac thing.

Paul

 

[Ken Springer]

Get your copy of 7-ZIP out and have a look.

7-ZIP???? Whazzat????? LOL

You don't need that with OS X anyway, you can open the package contents
with a right click and "Show Package Contents".

2014MidwestHorseFGu.zip
2014MidwestHorseFGu\DATA\loader.app\Contents\MacOS\
Flash Player 17,252,160 bytes

There's an Info.plist and Pkglist down that way as well.
The header on that Flash Player file is not PE32, so it must
be some sort of Mac thing.

I totally missed seeing loader.app. That explains why it tried to run
but didn't. With all 3 browsers it gets to 50% and just stalls. It did
that from the outset.

Manually ran the loader.app and 2014MidwestHorseFGu.app, stalls at 50%.
Each time it's trying to run Flash Player 10.1.52.14. But I have
Flash 12 installed, which I'd forgotten.

I don't have time to find out if there's a problem with that version of
Flash and 10.8.5, but I'd think the Midwest package would check to see
if there's already a Flash installation.

--
Ken
Mac OS X 10.8.5
Firefox 25.0
Thunderbird 24.3.0
"My brain is like lightning, a quick flash
and it's gone!"

 

[casey.o]

Thanks for posting this. I'm a big fan of PDFs so it's always nice to see
new ways of displaying them on screen.
I have seen websites that show PDFs this way (mostly catalogs) but usually
you can't download them for later reading.

I wonder how difficult it is to convert a regular PDF to YUDA, so I'll have
to do a little research,

Not as simple as having a single file associated with a book, but having the
reader built in was interesting.
Do you know if the YUDA document can be read on a MAC or any other systems?

Just a comment on this YUDU file. I physically went to the Midwest
Horse Fair last weekend. The YUDU file is an exact clone of their paper
schedule / booklet which they handed out at the gate. I saved the
booklet, but it was nice being able to see their schedule *before* I
went there, because I dont care to carry around their booklet all day
while being at an event like this, nor is it easy to try to read it in a
large crowd of people, especially when I dont tend to carry reading
glasses with me (and need them to read).

I've gone to the Midwest Horse Fair for years. They used to just have a
PDF download of ONLY the daily schedule. While I did look it over prior
to going, so I knew what to expect. But its impossible to remember the
schedule once I get there, and they do have it posted on signs around
the grounds too. Being able to read the articles in advance gave me a
much better understanding of what to expect once I got there. That was
useful. Even though half of their booklet (and the YUDU file) is
advertising, I felt I had a better understanding of the "theme" for the
year, and what to expect once I got there. I suppose they could have
created a huge PDF file too, but I much prefer flipping the pages than
having to scroll down a HUGE PDF file.