All MS updates since SP3??

[BillW50]

I don't suppose you have a reference for that? One would hope they do,
but I can't see any reason for them to do so (other than good PR), and a
good reason for them not to (basically the knowledge that activation
will eventually be available would stop a, diminishing but still
sizeable, number of people from buying a new Windows).

Hmm... I don't know if that was something I saved or not. But from my
memory it was stated in one of those Microsoft.public newsgroups dealing
with MS Money. I believe there is only one of them. Archives I think are
still easy to find. That is where I would start looking.

There are lots of Microsoft products that ended up biting the dust and I
know about some of them. One of them I was interested in was MS Money.
And many users heard that MS was going to stop Money support and end all
development. I think was about 2010, but not positive. And either
somebody posted a message they got from Microsoft or Microsoft
themselves stated that don't worry about activation as they will always
work. Either the server will continue to activate or a patch would be
issued to bypass the activation.

Sounds great and reassuring and all. Although before they shutdown the
activation servers, instead of a patch, they released the total same of
the last version minus the activation. Well not actually like the patch
I heard about, but anybody could download it now without any problems.

Another Microsoft product that I followed a lot was MS Flight Simulator.
Long and interesting history there and almost as long as MS-DOS (short
by two years I think), but cutting to the chase is at least the last
version required activated. Microsoft killed that one pretty fast and I
don't recall as much of a concern in the newsgroup as MS Money. Anyway
no mention of any activation patch and I don't recall anybody really
worrying or anything. But the last time I checked (about a year ago),
the activation servers are still activating the last version just fine.
I don't recall when MS killed it off, but either 2007 or 2009 sounds
about right.

And regardless what an employee ever said while Microsoft would never do
something or not. I guess even that is meaningless in regards with
whoever is the current CEO of Microsoft is in charge. As they could
change everything at anytime.

And while all I have to go on with one example where MS killed off the
activation servers, they released a version that anybody can install.
All others as far as I know there has been no patches or anything, but
they still activate just fine. So that is at least promising.

 

[micky]

(If you mean Eudora OSE - "open source edition" - that is indeed not
Yes.

based on the old Eudora: it's basically a version of Thunderbird tricked
out to _look_ like Eudora. Unfortunately it's a very old version of
Thunderbird - 1.x I think - and not being upgraded.)


Is that Eudora 7?

Yes, though I get v7.1.0.9 and iirc v7.1.1 mixed up. I see I'm still
using the first one now, but I thought I made a point, in some computer,
to download the latter, since it's a sllightly higher version. Though
I didn't notice any difference.

If so, my (blind) friend has it, and it installed OK

under Windows 7 (despite what we'd seen somewhere). But after a while,
it asked if we wanted to continue using the limited version we were
using, to upgrade to the better version for free but ad-supported, or
upgrade to the better version and pay.

That's the thing. AIUI, there is no one to pay anymore. Well if it's
automated maybe one could pay Qualcomm, but aiui they're not asking for
money anymore.

Since the ad.s are small and
graphical, he wouldn't be bothered by them (his blind wife has that
version), so we elected to go for that, but unfortunately the server
that was hard-coded into it no longer responds.

I'm not too surprised at that. If fewer and fewer are using the
ad-version, the ad-people will have less interest in maintaining it, and
I was told, maybe by someone on the Eudora newgroup, that there is no
need to use the advertising version. Because one can upgrade to the
paid version just by using a valid activation code. Eudora won't send
one anymore -- that may have been automatic too, but some part of that
is disabled aiui.

So one can just google for an activation code, plus a couple were
mentioned in the newsgroup. You really only need one, for as many
instances of Eudora as you want.

Activation will free up the space used for ads and make the screen look
a little more harmonious.

Here are a couple valid codes, I am told. If these don't work, please
get back to me. I'd like to know myself.

FirstName: no
LastName: man
Registration: 3730515983332026

FirstName: compmaileudoramswindows
LastName: Newsgroup
Registration: 4147258383331983

It occurs to me that the Eudora server has to be involved to accept
these codes, and I guess they intend to keep that running, as long as
Qualcomm still exists. Remember, Eudora was just written as either fun
or a school project, and they never expected to make money out of it.
When it became will known, they wrote to Eudora Welty and apologized for
using her name, which they said they would not have done if they thought
it would be well enough known that she'd hear about it, but she said it
was fine. (She had written a short story called something like "My
life at the post office" so that made them think of her when they
thought of email.

If activation ever stops working, I think an already activaated version
of Eudora can just be copied from one computer to another. It doesn't
depend on Windows and doesn't have to be installed. It's only presence
in the registry after installation is in the list of all installed
programs. Any icons wanted can be created by hand.

As to support, I havent' needed any support for 5 or 10 years. I think
there are one or two things that are somewhat hard to do, things I've
never wanted to do, but OTOH, I think Eudora has more email features
than any other program out there.

[]

 

[J. P. Gilliver (John)]

(I would have emailed but wasn't sure about the demunging.)

In message <[email protected]>, micky

need to use the advertising version. Because one can upgrade to the
paid version just by using a valid activation code. Eudora won't send
one anymore -- that may have been automatic too, but some part of that
is disabled aiui.

So one can just google for an activation code, plus a couple were
mentioned in the newsgroup. You really only need one, for as many
instances of Eudora as you want.

Activation will free up the space used for ads and make the screen look
a little more harmonious.

Here are a couple valid codes, I am told. If these don't work, please
get back to me. I'd like to know myself.

I've passed on your post.

FirstName: no
LastName: man
Registration: 3730515983332026

FirstName: compmaileudoramswindows
LastName: Newsgroup
Registration: 4147258383331983

It occurs to me that the Eudora server has to be involved to accept
these codes, and I guess they intend to keep that running, as long as
Qualcomm still exists. Remember, Eudora was just written as either fun
or a school project, and they never expected to make money out of it.
When it became will known, they wrote to Eudora Welty and apologized for
using her name, which they said they would not have done if they thought
it would be well enough known that she'd hear about it, but she said it
was fine. (She had written a short story called something like "My
life at the post office" so that made them think of her when they
thought of email.

(Interesting! I'd never really wondered where the name came from.)
[]

As to support, I havent' needed any support for 5 or 10 years. I think

No, I don't think my friends have either.

there are one or two things that are somewhat hard to do, things I've
never wanted to do, but OTOH, I think Eudora has more email features
than any other program out there.

Hmm, probably Thunderbird with add-ons might have more, but _I_ don't
need a lot from an email prog., and I think my friends even less.
[]

 

[micky]

(I would have emailed but wasn't sure about the demunging.)

In message <[email protected]>, micky

need to use the advertising version. Because one can upgrade to the
paid version just by using a valid activation code. Eudora won't send
one anymore -- that may have been automatic too, but some part of that
is disabled aiui.

So one can just google for an activation code, plus a couple were
mentioned in the newsgroup. You really only need one, for as many
instances of Eudora as you want.

Activation will free up the space used for ads and make the screen look
a little more harmonious.

Here are a couple valid codes, I am told. If these don't work, please
get back to me. I'd like to know myself.

I've passed on your post.
good

FirstName: no
LastName: man
Registration: 3730515983332026

FirstName: compmaileudoramswindows
LastName: Newsgroup
Registration: 4147258383331983

It occurs to me that the Eudora server has to be involved to accept
these codes, and I guess they intend to keep that running, as long as
Qualcomm still exists. Remember, Eudora was just written as either fun
or a school project, and they never expected to make money out of it.
When it became will known, they wrote to Eudora Welty and apologized for
using her name, which they said they would not have done if they thought
it would be well enough known that she'd hear about it, but she said it
was fine. (She had written a short story called something like "My
life at the post office" so that made them think of her when they
thought of email.

(Interesting! I'd never really wondered where the name came from.)
[]

As to support, I havent' needed any support for 5 or 10 years. I think

No, I don't think my friends have either.

there are one or two things that are somewhat hard to do, things I've
never wanted to do, but OTOH, I think Eudora has more email features
than any other program out there.

Hmm, probably Thunderbird with add-ons might have more, but _I_ don't

I doubt it. Personally, I've always figured they implemented most of
the the features they themselves used, and probably never got around to
all of them. And even with add-ons, I doubt they got them all.

need a lot from an email prog., and I think my friends even less.

Yes. In my last computer I had it set up to reply from the email
address used for me in the incoming email. That's the kind of thing
that might not be in the Thunderbird version. Although it's not
explicit in Eudora either and it took me a few minutes to figure out how
to do it. Auto-response is not designated by name either, but it's
there.

[]

 

[J. P. Gilliver (John)]

She told me that one worked.
[]
--
J. P. Gilliver. UMRA: 1960/<1985 MB++G()AL-IS-Ch++(p)Ar@T+H+Sh0!:`)DNAf

The message ... is that Americans talk a lot abour freedom but are scared of
anyone who tries to exhibit it. - Barry Norman on "Easy Rider", in Radio Times
28 April-4 May 2012

 

[micky]

She told me that one worked.
[]

Good. I was looking at my laptop, which I've had for 2 years I think,
but don't use much, and I too had the version with ads on it, except
there were no ads. I don't have desk space to put the laptop next to
the desktop so I can type in my own registration code, but I will force
myself to do so.

I havent' installed Agent in the laptop yet either, and it's code is
about 50 characters long. I'll have to email it the laptop.