Accessing xp folder from 98

[Roger]

Using XP pro on one computer, win98 (1st ed) on another.

Root sharing of hard drive disabled, but certain sub folders are sharing
enabled. Simple file sharing is enabled. Firewall set to allow traffic
from lan computer.

Sequence of events:

Before root sharing was enabled, the 98 machine was prompted for the IPC$
password (I know enough that there is no "correct" answer to that prompt).

Sharing was first attempted using the share wizard. No detectable change.
Still prompted for IPC$.

Sharing was then enabled without the wizard. The hard drive was
accessible.

Sharing was disabled. The 98 machine can still connect to the xp machine,
but cannot "see" anything.

How can I configure my XP machine to allow lan computers access to the
specific folders I want to share, without having to share the root?

Thanks for any help.

 

[MTBoxTech]

Networking is never fun w/ Win9x/ME machines. Whether you actually log in
to the Win98 box, there is a user ID. If you are not logging in then the OS
is 'assuming' a login ID. Setup the Win98 box to login with a specific
login ID, then setup the same ID and password as a local user on the WinXP
box. Share your folder and allow that local user ID access permissions.
Behind the scenes the WinXP box will ask the Win98 box who it is when you
try to access the shared folder. By default, the Win98 box spits out the
credentials that it is logged in with. If those credentials (ID and PW)
match a local user on the XP box, access is allowed. This is called
pass-through authentication.

Post back if that doesn't help.

-TK
M/T Box Computers

 

[Chuck]

Using XP pro on one computer, win98 (1st ed) on another.

Root sharing of hard drive disabled, but certain sub folders are sharing
enabled. Simple file sharing is enabled. Firewall set to allow traffic
from lan computer.

Sequence of events:

Before root sharing was enabled, the 98 machine was prompted for the IPC$
password (I know enough that there is no "correct" answer to that prompt).

Sharing was first attempted using the share wizard. No detectable change.
Still prompted for IPC$.

Sharing was then enabled without the wizard. The hard drive was
accessible.

Sharing was disabled. The 98 machine can still connect to the xp machine,
but cannot "see" anything.

How can I configure my XP machine to allow lan computers access to the
specific folders I want to share, without having to share the root?

Thanks for any help.

Roger,

When you say "sharing enabled" or "sharing disabled", what do you mean? Do you
mean establishing a share, or are you talking about the Simple File Sharing
option? Please be specific in both cases.

If you enable Simple File Sharing on Windows XP Pro, you must enable the Guest
account, using Start - Run - "cmd" - then type "net user guest /active:yes" in
the command window.

On XP Pro with SFS disabled, check the Local Security Policies (Control Panel -
Administrative Tools). Under Local Policies - Security Options, look at
"Network access: Sharing and security model", and ensure it's set to "Classic -
local users authenticate as themselves".

On XP Pro with SFS disabled, if you set the above Local Security Policy to
"Guest only", enable the Guest account, using Start - Run - "cmd" - type "net
user guest /active:yes" in the command window. If "Classic", setup and use a
common non-Guest account on all computers. Whichever account is used, give it
an identical, non-blank password on all computers.

If you're using non-Guest authentication, make sure that you login completely to
the Win98 computer, using an account and password setup on the WinXP computer.
Don't his Esc when prompted for a user name / password!

On XP Pro, if you're going to use Guest authentication, check your Local
Security Policy (Control Panel - Administrative Tools) - User Rights Assignment,
on the XP Pro computer, and look at "Deny access to this computer from the
network". Make sure Guest is not in the list.

Do any of the computers have a software firewall (ICF / WF, or third party)? If
so, you need to configure them for file sharing. Firewall configurations are a
very common cause of (network) browser, and file sharing, problems.

More about file sharing, between all different versions of Windows:
<http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/...db-aef8-4bef-925e-7ac9be791028&DisplayLang=en>

 

[Roger]

The guest account is enabled. Using the guest account for network access
is fine. Security options shows local users authenticate as guest. A
firewall is involved, but is set to trust my lan computers. I still can't
"see" any of my shares from the 98 machine.

 

[Chuck]

The guest account is enabled. Using the guest account for network access
is fine. Security options shows local users authenticate as guest. A
firewall is involved, but is set to trust my lan computers. I still can't
"see" any of my shares from the 98 machine.

Roger,

If the problem is visibility of shares, and you have Win9x and WinXP mixed on
your LAN, then you probably have a browser (no I'm not talking about Internet
Explorer) problem.

Make sure the browser service is running on the WinXP computer. Control Panel -
Administrative Tools - Services. Verify that the Computer Browser, and the
TCP/IP NetBIOS Helper, services both show with Status = Started. Disable the
browser on the Win98 computer:
http://cms.simons-rock.edu/faq_by_subtopic/node138.html

Power both computers off. Power the WinXP computer on, then the Win98 computer.

The Microsoft Browstat program will show us what browsers you have in your
domain / workgroup, at any time.
http://support.microsoft.com/?id=188305

You can download Browstat from either:
<http://www.dynawell.com/reskit/microsoft/win2000/browstat.zip>
<http://rescomp.stanford.edu/staff/manual/rcc/tools/browstat.zip>

Browstat is very small (40K), and needs no install. Just unzip the downloaded
file, copy browstat.exe to any folder in the Path, and run it from a command
window, by "browstat status". Make sure all computers give the same result.

For more information about the browser subsystem (very intricate), see:
http://support.microsoft.com/?id=188001
http://support.microsoft.com/?id=188305
<http://www.microsoft.com/technet/prodtechnol/winntas/deploy/prodspecs/ntbrowse.mspx>

Next, look at registry key [HKLM\System\CurrentControlSet\Control\Lsa], value
restrictanonymous.
<http://www.microsoft.com/windows200...2000/techinfo/reskit/en-us/regentry/46688.asp>
<http://www.jsifaq.com/subf/tip2600/rh2625.htm>
http://support.microsoft.com/?id=246261
http://support.microsoft.com/?id=296403

The above articles refer to Windows 2000. Remember WinXP is NT V5.1, and Win2K
is NT V5.0.

Have you used the Registry Editor before? If not, it's a scary tool, but it's
pretty simple once you get used to it. Here are a couple articles that might
help:
<http://www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/...home/using/productdoc/en/tools_regeditors.asp>
<http://www.annoyances.org/exec/show/registry>

Just remember to backup the key (create a registry patch) for
[HKLM\System\CurrentControlSet\Control\Lsa] before making any changes, if
appropriate.

From the Annoyances article:
You can create a Registry patch by opening the Registry Editor, selecting a
branch, and choosing Export from the File menu. Then, specify a filename, and
press OK. You can then view the Registry patch file by opening it in Notepad
(right-click on it and select Edit). Again, just double-click on a Registry
patch file (or use Import in the Registry Editor's File menu) to apply it to the
registry.

 

[Roger]

I can't diable the browser service on the 98 machine. It is first edition.


Browstat result for XP machine:

C:\Documents and Settings\All Users\Documents\Desktop>browstat status


Status for domain HOMELAN on transport \Device\NetBT_Tcpip_{F3A5E2D6-48B1-
40EE-9
B00-89F78FCCE423}
Browsing is active on domain.
Master browser name is: DAVID1
Master browser is running build 2600
1 backup servers retrieved from master ROGER
\\ROGER
There are 2 servers in domain HOMELAN on transport \Device\NetBT_Tcpip_
{F3A5
E2D6-48B1-40EE-9B00-89F78FCCE423}
There are 1 domains in domain HOMELAN on transport \Device\NetBT_Tcpip_
{F3A5
E2D6-48B1-40EE-9B00-89F78FCCE423}

The browstat program would not run on the 98 machine. The program gave the
following error messages:

The browstat.exe file is linked to missing export
NETAPI32.dll:I_BrowserDebugCall.

C:\browstat
A device attached to the system is not functioning.

 

[Chuck]

I can't diable the browser service on the 98 machine. It is first edition.


Browstat result for XP machine:

C:\Documents and Settings\All Users\Documents\Desktop>browstat status


Status for domain HOMELAN on transport \Device\NetBT_Tcpip_{F3A5E2D6-48B1-
40EE-9
B00-89F78FCCE423}
Browsing is active on domain.
Master browser name is: DAVID1
Master browser is running build 2600
1 backup servers retrieved from master ROGER
\\ROGER
There are 2 servers in domain HOMELAN on transport \Device\NetBT_Tcpip_
{F3A5
E2D6-48B1-40EE-9B00-89F78FCCE423}
There are 1 domains in domain HOMELAN on transport \Device\NetBT_Tcpip_
{F3A5
E2D6-48B1-40EE-9B00-89F78FCCE423}

The browstat program would not run on the 98 machine. The program gave the
following error messages:

The browstat.exe file is linked to missing export
NETAPI32.dll:I_BrowserDebugCall.

C:\browstat
A device attached to the system is not functioning.

Roger,

You certainly do have a multitude of problems.

If you can't disable the browser on the Win 9x computer, you need to disable it
on the Win XP computer. The two don't work well together, and will cause
problems.

Look at registry key [HKLM\System\CurrentControlSet\Control\Lsa], value
restrictanonymous.
<http://www.microsoft.com/windows200...2000/techinfo/reskit/en-us/regentry/46688.asp>
<http://www.jsifaq.com/subf/tip2600/rh2625.htm>
http://support.microsoft.com/?id=246261
http://support.microsoft.com/?id=296403

The above articles refer to Windows 2000. Remember WinXP is NT V5.1, and Win2K
is NT V5.0.

Have you used the Registry Editor before? If not, it's a scary tool, but it's
pretty simple once you get used to it. Here are a couple articles that might
help:
<http://www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/...home/using/productdoc/en/tools_regeditors.asp>
<http://www.annoyances.org/exec/show/registry>

Just remember to backup the key (create a registry patch) for
[HKLM\System\CurrentControlSet\Control\Lsa] before making any changes, if
appropriate.

From the Annoyances article:
You can create a Registry patch by opening the Registry Editor, selecting a
branch, and choosing Export from the File menu. Then, specify a filename, and
press OK. You can then view the Registry patch file by opening it in Notepad
(right-click on it and select Edit). Again, just double-click on a Registry
patch file (or use Import in the Registry Editor's File menu) to apply it to the
registry.

If no help yet, let's look at each computer in depth. Start by providing
ipconfig information for each computer.
Start - Run - "cmd". Type "ipconfig /all >c:\ipconfig.txt" into the command
window - Open c:\ipconfig.txt in Notepad, make sure that Format - Word Wrap is
NOT checked!, copy and paste entire contents into your next post. Identify
operating system (by name, version, and SP level) with each ipconfig listing.

 

[Robert Jacobs]

When setting up your network, dont you recall a message poping up stating
that most non XP machines will not beable to see shared drives or files when
using the XP nameing scheme? I do........

 

[Steve Winograd [MVP]]

When setting up your network, dont you recall a message poping up stating
that most non XP machines will not beable to see shared drives or files when
using the XP nameing scheme? I do........

When sharing a disk or folder, I sometimes get this message: "If the
share name is longer than 12 characters, this folder cannot be
accessed by computers running Windows 98SE, Windows Millenium Edition,
Windows NT 4.0, or earlier operating systems. To make the folder
fully accessible, name it using 12 characters or fewer".

Is that what you recall?
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[Robert Jacobs]

Yes, but I have found even after renaming it does not always fix it.

 

[Richard G. Harper]

Your best bet is to delete the share completely, then re-create it with a
short name that will be visible to other clients.

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