Abit BH7 and Hauppauge WinTV Express issue

[Bolooser10]

Good day,

System:
Win98SE, P4 Northwood 2.4, 1 stick 512 Crucial ram, Radeon 9600 pro,
Sound Blaster live 5.1, 2X 40 gig Maxtor 7200 RPM HDD.

I installed the above card in each and every PCI slot with the VFW
drivers from Hauppauge (for 95-98), changed the ram from slot 1 to 2
with always the same result : a ram page conflict between the Hauppauge
card and the Intel 82801DB PCI Bridge-244E which prevents the card from
working correctly as according to the Hauppauge report : " Windows has
assigned the following hardware memory resources which overlap with
Hauppauge Win TV's."

I have 2 questions :
Has anyone got such a card working on that mobo ?
Does anyone have another TV card working on that mobo, with which
drivers, in which PCI slot ?

Help, ideas would be greatly appreciated
Thank you

 

[kony]

Good day,

System:
Win98SE, P4 Northwood 2.4, 1 stick 512 Crucial ram, Radeon 9600 pro,
Sound Blaster live 5.1, 2X 40 gig Maxtor 7200 RPM HDD.

I installed the above card in each and every PCI slot with the VFW
drivers from Hauppauge (for 95-98),

Do you know for certain that you need the VFW driver?
Win98_SE_ does support many WDM device drivers. However,
there are some things that can interfere with WDM working,
such as clearing out old registry entries if one plug-n-play
migrates the OS from one motherboard to another. I might be
drifting off on a tangent here so I leave this comment
incomplete until it appears relevant.

changed the ram from slot 1 to 2
with always the same result : a ram page conflict between the Hauppauge
card and the Intel 82801DB PCI Bridge-244E which prevents the card from
working correctly as according to the Hauppauge report : " Windows has
assigned the following hardware memory resources which overlap with
Hauppauge Win TV's."

I'm suspecting this is not a problem. Win98SE can show
overlap on PCI bridge and the PCI cards as a correctly
working setup, that is, it's just how they're expected to be
reported. Do you have any other PCI devices installed? If
so, see if those also show the same memory space with the
PCI bridge.

I have 2 questions :
Has anyone got such a card working on that mobo ?

At what point is the failure of the card to work, evident?
Does windows detect it as the correct card, and the driver
installation appears to complete? Is the driver just a
bunch of files you have to browse to witha wizard or is
there an executible setup routine that installs them?

Is it only when you try to start the video display, you then
see no TV? If so there might be other windows issues
unrelated to this specific card or a video driver problem.

 

[Bolooser10]

kony a écrit :

Do you know for certain that you need the VFW driver?
Win98_SE_ does support many WDM device drivers. However,
there are some things that can interfere with WDM working,
such as clearing out old registry entries if one plug-n-play
migrates the OS from one motherboard to another. I might be
drifting off on a tangent here so I leave this comment
incomplete until it appears relevant.

I first tried the set of WDM drivers from the Hauppauge site and as it
failed (getting the channels) I switched to VFW drivers which I used on
another Win98SE machine and which worked fine with a WinTV GO >

I'm suspecting this is not a problem. Win98SE can show
overlap on PCI bridge and the PCI cards as a correctly
working setup, that is, it's just how they're expected to be
reported. Do you have any other PCI devices installed? If
so, see if those also show the same memory space with the
PCI bridge.

I have a PCI Sound Blaster Live 5.1 in the last PCI slot but its memory
assignment does not show up in the "memory" section in the system
informations program

At what point is the failure of the card to work, evident?
Does windows detect it as the correct card, and the driver
installation appears to complete? Is the driver just a
bunch of files you have to browse to witha wizard or is
there an executible setup routine that installs them?>
Is it only when you try to start the video display, you then
see no TV? If so there might be other windows issues
unrelated to this specific card or a video driver problem.

The program is an executable and the drivers do get installed and show
up in the device manager saying there is no conflict.
Yes, the card is recognized and installed ok. The only problem is that
I cannot reach the channels :-(
The TV cable is ok, tested directly on the TV

Thank you for taking the time to answer

 

[kony]

Yes, the card is recognized and installed ok. The only problem is that
I cannot reach the channels :-(
The TV cable is ok, tested directly on the TV

What exactly does "cannot reach the channels" mean?
A lot of detail about exactly what is happening could be
useful to someone to troubleshoot this, but at the moment I
am out of ideas except to try another driver.

 

[Bolooser10]

kony a écrit :

What exactly does "cannot reach the channels" mean?
A lot of detail about exactly what is happening could be
useful to someone to troubleshoot this, but at the moment I
am out of ideas except to try another driver.

Ok, once I have installed the card drivers (Hauppauge VFW or WDM)
I install my TV program called "More TV" and then I find the channels
1,2,3,5,6 pressing the + or - tabs.
This is the way it works with my Hauppauge WinTV GO on my P2B.
It worked ok also on my BH6.
Furthermore, I never had the "memory conflict" as it is reported now
by Hauppauge with that motherboard.
I won't give it up and will try another card (I should have a Miro PCTV
in a few days)and see what it does.
If the issue still remains I'll try another DX as i am using DX9C now
and have seen around some issues with it.
Thank you
i have googled quite a bit about that issue and all I found was the
exact same issue caused by too much memory.The person took one stick
of 512 out and kept the other 512 in and the problem was solved.
I only have one stick of 512, so it must be something else.

 

[kony]

kony a écrit :

Ok, once I have installed the card drivers (Hauppauge VFW or WDM)
I install my TV program called "More TV"

Did "More TV" come with the card? If not, do not use it for
troubleshooting purposes, use the software that came with
the card and aim at getting that working first.

I mention this because if it is a 3rd party software it may
not work, or not work in all configs but that wouldn't
necessarily be a sign the card or driver is itself a
"problem" per se if it worked otherwise.

Also if there are updates or patches for the included card
software, try those.

and then I find the channels
1,2,3,5,6 pressing the + or - tabs.
This is the way it works with my Hauppauge WinTV GO on my P2B.
It worked ok also on my BH6.
Furthermore, I never had the "memory conflict" as it is reported now
by Hauppauge with that motherboard.
I won't give it up and will try another card (I should have a Miro PCTV
in a few days)and see what it does.
If the issue still remains I'll try another DX as i am using DX9C now
and have seen around some issues with it.
Thank you
i have googled quite a bit about that issue and all I found was the
exact same issue caused by too much memory.The person took one stick
of 512 out and kept the other 512 in and the problem was solved.
I only have one stick of 512, so it must be something else.

Win98SE supports up to and past 512MB fine but you would
need a change made in your "system.ini" file to limit the
size of the vcache. Details,
http://www.google.com/search?q=Win98+512MB+vcache

 

[Bolooser10]

kony a écrit :

Did "More TV" come with the card? If not, do not use it for
troubleshooting purposes, use the software that came with
the card and aim at getting that working first.

I mention this because if it is a 3rd party software it may
not work, or not work in all configs but that wouldn't
necessarily be a sign the card or driver is itself a
"problem" per se if it worked otherwise.

Also if there are updates or patches for the included card
software, try those.


Win98SE supports up to and past 512MB fine but you would
need a change made in your "system.ini" file to limit the
size of the vcache. Details,
http://www.google.com/search?q=Win98+512MB+vcache

Thank you for your help.