A8V or CPU?

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GlimmerMan

hi, i have just out together a new system. I booted it and.....
nothing. I am running a AMD64 3500+ with A8V 1G RAM, FX 5200 256mb,
Audigy 2 ZS, 400W thermaltake PSU. When i start the stupid thing it
turns on fine and just hangs with a black screen. No bios beeps, none
of that white text crap that comes first. I am thinking that maybe the
bent cpu pins that my dad tried to fix didnt quitework out. so what do
youe rekon? CPU or Mobo?

A reply would be nice as i want to play some games and make some
images.

ty
 
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Peter van der Goes

GlimmerMan said:
hi, i have just out together a new system. I booted it and.....
nothing. I am running a AMD64 3500+ with A8V 1G RAM, FX 5200 256mb,
Audigy 2 ZS, 400W thermaltake PSU. When i start the stupid thing it
turns on fine and just hangs with a black screen. No bios beeps, none
of that white text crap that comes first. I am thinking that maybe the
bent cpu pins that my dad tried to fix didnt quitework out. so what do
youe rekon? CPU or Mobo?

A reply would be nice as i want to play some games and make some
images.

ty
For starters, you could try plugging in a set of amplified speakers (to the
onboard sound, after removing the Audigy) to see if the voice reporter is
giving you any messages that will help identify the problem.
You might also disconnect all unnecessary peripherals, leaving only video
and one RAM stick, to see if that makes a difference. If it does, add back
one peripheral at a time, noting results. Possibility of an inadequate PSU.
If it boots with one RAM stick, update the BIOS, then try adding the second
stick.
 
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Paul

hi, i have just out together a new system. I booted it and.....
nothing. I am running a AMD64 3500+ with A8V 1G RAM, FX 5200 256mb,
Audigy 2 ZS, 400W thermaltake PSU. When i start the stupid thing it
turns on fine and just hangs with a black screen. No bios beeps, none
of that white text crap that comes first. I am thinking that maybe the
bent cpu pins that my dad tried to fix didnt quitework out. so what do
youe rekon? CPU or Mobo?

A reply would be nice as i want to play some games and make some
images.

ty

The bent pin thing sounds kinda ominous. Was the CPU installed
the wrong way, and the power turned on ? Or were the pins bent
while the processor was nowhere near the socket ? If you powered
it up while it was assembled the wrong way, it could be that
both the CPU and mobo are fried.

Check the cpusupport web page and make sure the BIOS in the
machine is recent enough for the processor you are using.

http://www.asus.com.tw/support/cpusupport/cpusupport.aspx

Finally, _if_ the motherboard has "vocal post", plug amplified
speakers into the green lineout jack on the back of the
computer. You can get spoken error messages there. The list
of error messages is in the manual.

Paul
 
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GlimmerMan

The CPU was installed the correct way. The CPU was dropped while
assembling on to my other computer and bent the pins a little bit.
Straightened the pins up and it fit ok.

EDIT: Got this message "System failed due to CPU overclocking" . This
message is BS!! because the bios doesnt even come up so i cant
overclock it....
 
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Peter van der Goes

GlimmerMan said:
The CPU was installed the correct way. The CPU was dropped while
assembling on to my other computer and bent the pins a little bit.
Straightened the pins up and it fit ok.

EDIT: Got this message "System failed due to CPU overclocking" . This
message is BS!! because the bios doesnt even come up so i cant
overclock it....
I see you taken one piece of advice I offered.
You can try:
Reset CMOS (see your manual for the procedure) and/or
remove all but one RAM stick and see what happens.
 
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Irv

i would plug the cpu heatsink fan into another motherboard connector or even
change the fan. i got weird error messages on one of my asus boards that
went away with a new fan. later i realized that i had left a piece of
plastic on the heatsink so it wasn't making good contact with the cpu.
 
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CapeGuy

You need to upgrade the BIOS. That "System failed..."
message has now become infamous as the indication of
a need to update the BIOS. Iwent through the same
hair-pulling when I first turned on my A8V/3500+. It's
frustrating - but it's also a simple fix. My original BIOS
was Rev 7. Upgrading to Rev 9 turned the trick.
 
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Peter van der Goes

CapeGuy said:
You need to upgrade the BIOS. That "System failed..."
message has now become infamous as the indication of
a need to update the BIOS. Iwent through the same
hair-pulling when I first turned on my A8V/3500+. It's
frustrating - but it's also a simple fix. My original BIOS
was Rev 7. Upgrading to Rev 9 turned the trick.
I agree that the OP may have to update the BIOS, but the question then
becomes:
How to update the BIOS when the PC refuses to boot?
How did you manage that trick (unless, of course, you had access to a
second, updated, BIOS chip or had a spare, slower, CPU)?
I had suggested removal of all but one RAM stick after reading that *some*
A8V owners had been able to boot with a single RAM stick with the older
BIOS, then update the BIOS.
 
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CapeGuy

Peter van der Goes said:
I agree that the OP may have to update the BIOS, but the question then
becomes:
How to update the BIOS when the PC refuses to boot?
How did you manage that trick (unless, of course, you had access to a
second, updated, BIOS chip or had a spare, slower, CPU)?
I had suggested removal of all but one RAM stick after reading that *some*
A8V owners had been able to boot with a single RAM stick with the older
BIOS, then update the BIOS.

Bingo! Exactly what I had to do, then boot to a DOS floppy.
And, as I recall, it was the 3rd RAM socket from the left that
the one stick had to be put into.
 
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Peter van der Goes

CapeGuy said:
Bingo! Exactly what I had to do, then boot to a DOS floppy.
And, as I recall, it was the 3rd RAM socket from the left that
the one stick had to be put into.
Perfect! Now, if GlimmerMan will read and follow your advice and example, he
may get his system running.
Thanks, CapeGuy!
 

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