Hi Talahasee,
My experience with computers go back to the days of the Commodore Vic
20 with a tape drive for backup.
My first was a Timex Sinclair. Remember the one that was
smaller than a small box of Grape Nuts? It was reviewed as
"excellent value" for its day, with a keyboard that
resembled "flat chicklets."
I didn't buy a Vic because I couldn't afford one.
My 2nd was the Atari 130 XE.
My first IBM was a 286 6 Mhz.
30 mb hdd.
1 360 fdd.
Now that that has been said, I have been following this newsgroup for
more than two years. I have seen a lot of people come and go. You have
to have a "thick skin" to take the good with the bad.
That is not a problem, as long as the MVPs have a thick skin
as well. I tend to give what I get.
And when Ken or Mike decides to give me a kick in the balls
for not being more receptive to their verbal abuse, he can
expect a kick in the balls in return.
If they want to be bullies, "take the crap we dish out or we
won't give you any advice", they can go screw themselves, as
others-- not just me-- have said.
I don't grovel and scrape and kiss heiny for ANYBODY. Never
have, never will. And when I've had bosses and supervisors
who wanted a bj on the lunch break in order to give me
decent treatment, I told them to bend over so I could show
them where to put their job.
I, and others
have been given a lot of assistance here from MVP's and non MVP's
alike.
As have I, and I believe I have ALWAYS expressed genuine
thanks for that.
That does NOT excuse petty, "I am God, you are shit"
behavior. If you believe it does, then you must deal with
the consequences of being a serf. They are free to steal
your children, your wife, your land... Put it in terms you
understand. I will not be beholding.
As I have said several times, a good buddy for the past 20
yaers is a Microsoft Certified Systems Engineer who is a
phone call away. And we've known one another long enough
that I can call him about just about anything and have an
answer in 5 minutes.
I could likely get the "best" advice from in here, and then
call Bruce, and then come back in here and tell the MVPs
where they screwed up.
Bruce must be in his late 50s, and he's been around
computers a VERY long time.
I don't call him because he has to make a living, and he
can't if he's on the phone an hour a day with me.
The good solid help that has been given has been priceless
to
I agree. I also believe that those who know even less than
me have benefited from MY information/knowledge/experience
when the MVPs deemed the questions "unworthy of their time.'
I have waited and waited and waited and FINALLY jumped in to
help someone who was Pleading, "someone please help! I've
asked the same question 4 times now." And no "MVP" bothered.
I guess there are "shit lists" even in here. And apparently
I am not the only one on them.
"So be it." IF that is the price of confronting a tyrant...
The MVP's and non MVP's (all of them) give freely of their
time to
True. If we bow and worship. If we don't bow and worship,
too many have ALREADY let me and others know, "worship at my
feet, or be ignored."
"Ain't gonna happen."
I am not defending any particular on here, they can speak for
themselves. I hope you understand a little bit better now in what is
involved with this news group.
If you have noticed the past day or so, (perhaps it's been
too soon for some to notice), I AM watching much more and
commenting much less. I didn't realize that this was a
closed group, where only 3 of them were permitted to "help."
And only after HEAVY tribute.
Then again, having worked at Microsoft myself, I happen to
know that Microsoft's employees generally see themselves as
"Gods", and if you don't play the "I worship you! Can I have
my paycheck now?" game, you don't last long.
I could tell stories about Microsoft's REAL attitudes
towards both customers and employees that you would not
believe.
Suffice it to say that -- the last time I worked at
Microsoft, I was terminated for being a male. I was told TO
MY FACE, that I was being fired "so we can hire a female to
replace you."
(I happen to be male)
That is TOTALLY ILLEGAL, but since I didn't happen to have
a tape recorder going, I was SOL.
I sense the same "I am God, you are nothing" in here.
And it's just plain W R O N G !!
Saddest of all, you are among those who have been sucked in!
I made a comment when I first posted my apology. It
obviously doesn't apply to everyone. It most certainly
doesn't apply to the MVPs with whom I've had words.
I said I was going to be open because I believed the people
in here are adults, mature, responsible, kind, and they
would not use what I was going to say against me.
And so far, two of the MVPs have called me a lunatic.
And both have reminded me to "take my meds."
That's a CLASS act!
Ask me what the #1 topic on here is and
I could tell you.
Watch and learn.
We may be learning different lessons.
And you may need to learn some lessons yourself.
One lesson you should learn is, if you must pay tribute in
order to be "blessed with knowledge", you must decide if
that tribute is something you are wiling to pay.
I will not give up my manhood and my self-respect for their
"knowledge."
At least *I* can face the guy in the mirror every morning!
Good luck!
Tallahassee