9800SE -> 9800 Pro mod - Anyone do it? Results?

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Julian Richards

I read -
http://www.digital-daily.com/video/ati-radeon9800se/index02.htm and it
looks pretty impressive. As a PowerColor 9800SE (256-bit) 128MB card
is only $159.75 with free shipping on NewEgg (
http://www.newegg.com/app/ViewProdu...-131-236&catalog=48&manufactory=BROWSE&depa=0
) I ordered one. I figure it can't be slower than my current
soft-modded 9500 (Non-pro) either way and I have other machines that
could use upgrades anyway.

So has anyone experience with this?
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I've done it via Omega drivers on a Powercolor card. I then got an
Arctic Cooling VGA cooler as a special weekend offer from E-Buyer and
overclocked to 438/364 (probably could go higher).
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Julian Richards
julian-richards "at" ntlworld.com

XP Home
L7S7A2 motherboard
Powercolor 9800 SE 8 pipelines with Omega drivers
1 GB RAM
10 GB + 80 GB HDs
CD+DVD/CDRW drives
 
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Julien -

Have you run 3DMark since then? What is a 9800XT clocked at vs. the
SE..?

Thanks
G Patricks
 
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Julian Richards

Julien -

Have you run 3DMark since then? What is a 9800XT clocked at vs. the
SE..?
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Around 14k but I suspect that the motherboard is the bottleneck but
there are some custom bioses and memory hacks to improve upon that. It
doesn't really matter as for now I don't seem to have any need to go
much faster.
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Julian Richards
julian-richards "at" ntlworld.com

XP Home
L7S7A2 motherboard
Powercolor 9800 SE 8 pipelines with Omega drivers
1 GB RAM
10 GB + 80 GB HDs
CD+DVD/CDRW drives
 
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Dodgy

Around 14k but I suspect that the motherboard is the bottleneck but
there are some custom bioses and memory hacks to improve upon that. It
doesn't really matter as for now I don't seem to have any need to go
much faster.
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I have the hercules AIW 9800SE, used the www.ocfaq.com softmod.

I don't know how it compares to a 9800XT, but I was up to the 9800Pro
levels I'd benchmarked on the same machine without any overclocking. I
don't think I'd want to overclock without fitting a bigger fan and
some ram heat syncs.

Dodgy.
 
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Icer

14K??

I get 3600+ with my softmodded 9500.. the benchs I saw before aftrerr
the 9800SE softmod went from 3600 -> 5000+... where is the 14,000
coming from?

G Patricks
 
J

Julian Richards

14K??

I get 3600+ with my softmodded 9500.. the benchs I saw before aftrerr
the 9800SE softmod went from 3600 -> 5000+... where is the 14,000
coming from?
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We are at cross purposes, I think. I'm using 3DMark2001 SE.
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Julian Richards
julian-richards "at" ntlworld.com

XP Home
L7S7A2 motherboard
Powercolor 9800 SE 8 pipelines with Omega drivers
1 GB RAM
10 GB + 80 GB HDs
CD+DVD/CDRW drives
 
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Icer

That explains it.. I'm downloading 3DMark 2001 (build 330) and
Aquamark 3 to get a better idea where I stand now

Thanks.
G P
 
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I get 14022 in 3DMark 2001 with all sliders in 3D control panel to the
left and application pref checked for FSAA and Anistropic. 33,133 in
Aquamark 3 and 3DMark 2003 is at 4531 now ..

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Dodgy

What do you get using 3DMark 2003 without FSAA?
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Oh god, I wrote it down somewhere... Don't have 3dmark2003 on the
machine any more since a rather terminal hdd failure.

To be honest it wouldn't prove anything though as the cpu/memory and
all the rest of the bits play a roll in the test. The only true
comparison is that I benchmarked the unlocked 9800SE and it came out a
couple of points (e.g. about 20) above a 9800Pro I'd tested on the
same machine, catalyst version etc. I believe it was round the 5700
mark, but don't quote me on that!

D0d6y.
 
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Dodgy

What do you get using 3DMark 2003 without FSAA?
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Oh god, I wrote it down somewhere... Don't have 3dmark2003 on the
machine any more since a rather terminal hdd failure.

To be honest it wouldn't prove anything though as the cpu/memory and
all the rest of the bits play a roll in the test.

But for your info I think I scored round 17000 in 3dmark02se and 5700
in 3dmark03.
That's on an Intel 875 chipset board with dual channel corsair xms3200
memory and an 800Mhz FSB P4-3gig.

The only true comparison is that I benchmarked the unlocked 9800SE and
it came out a couple of points (e.g. about 20) above a 9800Pro I'd
tested on the same machine, catalyst version etc.

So in your case, benchmark it would normal drivers, then apply a
softmod and then do it again. You should certainly notice the
difference! I think mine went up over 2000 points in 3dmark2002se.

D0d6y.
 
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Dodgy

Oh god, I wrote it down somewhere... Don't have 3dmark2003 on the
machine any more since a rather terminal hdd failure.

To be honest it wouldn't prove anything though as the cpu/memory and
all the rest of the bits play a roll in the test.

But for your info I think I scored round 17000 in 3dmark02se and 5700
in 3dmark03.
That's on an Intel 875 chipset board with dual channel corsair xms3200
memory and an 800Mhz FSB P4-3gig.

The only true comparison is that I benchmarked the unlocked 9800SE and
it came out a couple of points (e.g. about 20) above a 9800Pro I'd
tested on the same machine, catalyst version etc.

So in your case, benchmark it would normal drivers, then apply a
softmod and then do it again. You should certainly notice the
difference! I think mine went up over 2000 points in 3dmark2002se.

D0d6y.
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Right, found my bit of paper if you're still interested...

My machine did have an AIW 8500DV in it before so I did a straight
card swap and left the catalyst drivers as they were...

3dmark02se
8500DV - 8670
9800SE - 14553
9800SE* - 17384

3dmark03
9800SE - 3873
9800SE* - 5778

The * indicates the same 9800SE card just with the extra 4 pipelines
unlocked using the ocfaq.com softmod.

It appears I didn't even bother writing down the 8500DV's mark for
3dmark03, from memory it was mid 1700s... It was painful to watch at
times!

D0d6y.
 
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