9600 Benchmarks and Old System

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Ericvq

Just put a 9600 non pro in my son's rig (old cel 600 oc'd to 900 on a
MSI Via board with 383 sdram memory running at 133mhz). It replaced
an ancient mx 400. These are my following benches with unreal 2003 in
1024 x 768:
flyby: 56
botmatch: 21
Should I assume that these poor scores are reflective of the old
system that is bottle necking the gpu or is there something that I can
do to tweak the gpu to have the framerates increase? I am currently
running at default on the core and memory and am using the cat 3.9
drivers. Thanks for any input.
 
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David & Caroline

Have you run 3dmark2001se or 3dmark2003?

I just put that board in an older p3-933 and get 5970 and 2234,
respectively.
 
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Dark Avenger

Just put a 9600 non pro in my son's rig (old cel 600 oc'd to 900 on a
MSI Via board with 383 sdram memory running at 133mhz). It replaced
an ancient mx 400. These are my following benches with unreal 2003 in
1024 x 768:
flyby: 56
botmatch: 21
Should I assume that these poor scores are reflective of the old
system that is bottle necking the gpu or is there something that I can
do to tweak the gpu to have the framerates increase? I am currently
running at default on the core and memory and am using the cat 3.9
drivers. Thanks for any input.

Mmm, yep... probably the ancient motherboard, choking slow cpu and
memory that doesn't knows the meaning of speed!

Remember, the videocard though is fine, so keep using it... and when
you buy a new motherboard, nice processor and some fine fast memory
you'll see your card in full glory!
 
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Phoenix AG

Just put a 9600 non pro in my son's rig (old cel 600 oc'd to 900 on a
MSI Via board with 383 sdram memory running at 133mhz). It replaced
an ancient mx 400. These are my following benches with unreal 2003 in
1024 x 768:
flyby: 56
botmatch: 21
Should I assume that these poor scores are reflective of the old
system that is bottle necking the gpu or is there something that I can
do to tweak the gpu to have the framerates increase? I am currently
running at default on the core and memory and am using the cat 3.9
drivers. Thanks for any input.

I have an old system (P4 - 1.6) and replaced an ancient mx 400 with a
Radeon 9600 Pro recently.
My 3DMark2001 score is 7555.
3DMark 03 score is 2845.

Seems about ok. I am sure if I put in a 3.2 gig cpu, its gonna
increase my scores but I don't have the money :-D

Install 3dmark01 and 03 and see what scores you get.


***
....the Phoenix shall rise...
 
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Ericvq

Phoenix AG said:
I have an old system (P4 - 1.6) and replaced an ancient mx 400 with a
Radeon 9600 Pro recently.
My 3DMark2001 score is 7555.
3DMark 03 score is 2845.

Seems about ok. I am sure if I put in a 3.2 gig cpu, its gonna
increase my scores but I don't have the money :-D

Install 3dmark01 and 03 and see what scores you get.


***
...the Phoenix shall rise...

Just ran 3dmark2001se and came up with 4777. Given my system, I
suspect this is not too bad. Would you all agree? Next, I will oc my
radeon a bit to see what happens and start saving for a new board and
proc. Thinking of a cheap biostar nforce2 with an athlon xp 1.8.
Thanks for the input.
 
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Strontium

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Ericvq stood up at show-n-tell, in
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Just ran 3dmark2001se and came up with 4777. Given my system, I
suspect this is not too bad. Would you all agree? Next, I will oc my
radeon a bit to see what happens and start saving for a new board and
proc. Thinking of a cheap biostar nforce2 with an athlon xp 1.8.
Thanks for the input.

I wouldn't agree. I pulled 4900 with my old rig: FIC AZ11-AE, Duron 950,
Asus GF3Ti200, 512 PC100... Remember that it's all proportional. If you up
your video, your motherboard/memory/cpu become bottlenecks.

I, myself, just upped to a P4 3.0C and Asus Radeon 9800XT on an Intel
D865GBF motherboard. Got about a 25% increase in all areas. However, in
comparing my benchmarks (several that I use), I am still lagging. Thing
I've noticed is that all of the people that are whomping my ass have 875P
chipsets and better memory. Trimmed my memory timings as far as they would
go and got a nice return. But, it's clear to me that my motherboard and RAM
are now bottlenecks. Neverending cycle. Will fix that, next month!
 
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Phoenix AG

Just ran 3dmark2001se and came up with 4777. Given my system, I
suspect this is not too bad. Would you all agree? Next, I will oc my
radeon a bit to see what happens and start saving for a new board and
proc. Thinking of a cheap biostar nforce2 with an athlon xp 1.8.
Thanks for the input.

It's a bit on the low side, but then, I have nothing to compare it to
except for my own results.
As long as you can run games in an acceptable manner, I suspect this
is ok.

I would advise against overclocking the card as it will void your
warranty and there is a possibility of things going wrong and you
ending up with a fried card.

As to your system upgrade, I would suggest a processor at least with a
speed in the 2000's. And NEVER, EVER skimp on the motherboard. That's
the main component of your PC. I have seen excellent PCs die out
because of bad motherboards. ASUS and Intel motherboards are known for
their stability. I haven't had much experience with others.


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....the Phoenix shall rise...
 

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