~9 weeks on Vista without one crash

[Onlurker]

XP was stable, but still had problems once in a while.

With Vista Home Premium on this 9 week old laptop, I've had some
application compatibility issues but not one single case where
the system froze or crashed. It runs perhaps 12 hours a day,
too. It's fully tricked out with an active sidebar, accessories,
wallpaper-changer, and a few old applications, and I've done
plenty of experimenting. 95 and 98 were a crash a day, XP was a
crash a week, but this is as stable as a fresh 2000 install, and
a lot safer. Why all the groaning?

 

[babaloo]

If someone with tuberculosis coughs inside a crowded elevator not everyone
who is exposed will get tuberculosis either.

 

[NotMe]

Mine hasn't crashed either.
I just hate the "AOHell type protect me from myself" interface so much that
I generally use the machine beside it with XP Pro.
If I wanted AOL type software, I can just install it from one of the million
CDs they sent out... and it's free...

 

[Adam Albright]

XP was stable, but still had problems once in a while.

With Vista Home Premium on this 9 week old laptop, I've had some
application compatibility issues but not one single case where
the system froze or crashed. It runs perhaps 12 hours a day,
too. It's fully tricked out with an active sidebar, accessories,
wallpaper-changer, and a few old applications, and I've done
plenty of experimenting. 95 and 98 were a crash a day, XP was a
crash a week, but this is as stable as a fresh 2000 install, and
a lot safer. Why all the groaning?

Big deal, you sound like a newbie. I installed Vista in February,
hasn't crashed once if you don't count "recovered from a serious
error" a couple times or the endless times it said it was necessary to
shutdown Explorer, or decided to scramble my desktop icons I just
changed the way I want them and other little things like that.

The point is how stable Vista is depends on everybody's unique setup
and combination of software and to some extend how hard you push it.
All the things you raddled off are toys. Big deal. Try doing some
serious WORK with professional grade software then you may start to
see some of it's many shortcomings, like it's moronic UAC
interference, "calculating remaining time" stupidity when
copying/moving files, inability to remember settings, unable to
generate some thumbnails, play common files types, etc..

 

[Frank]

If someone with tuberculosis coughs inside a crowded elevator not everyone
who is exposed will get tuberculosis either.

Huh...you have tuberculosis?
Please don't cough in this ng ok?
Thanks for being considerate.
Frank

 

[NotMe]

<<~~~hands Frank a mask & a can of BS Repellent...... (well, the label says
Lysol disenfectant spray)

 

[will_s]

Big deal, you sound like a newbie. I installed Vista in February,
hasn't crashed once if you don't count "recovered from a serious
error" a couple times or the endless times it said it was necessary to
shutdown Explorer, or decided to scramble my desktop icons I just
changed the way I want them and other little things like that.

The point is how stable Vista is depends on everybody's unique setup
and combination of software and to some extend how hard you push it.
All the things you raddled off are toys. Big deal. Try doing some
serious WORK with professional grade software then you may start to
see some of it's many shortcomings, like it's moronic UAC
interference, "calculating remaining time" stupidity when
copying/moving files, inability to remember settings, unable to
generate some thumbnails, play common files types, etc..

sounds like you are the problem


ffs, if you dont like UAC then turn it off

 

[Onlurker]

Big deal, you sound like a newbie. I installed Vista in February,
hasn't crashed once if you don't count "recovered from a serious
error" a couple times or the endless times it said it was necessary to
shutdown Explorer, or decided to scramble my desktop icons I just
changed the way I want them and other little things like that.

The point is how stable Vista is depends on everybody's unique setup
and combination of software and to some extend how hard you push it.
All the things you raddled off are toys. Big deal. Try doing some
serious WORK with professional grade software then you may start to
see some of it's many shortcomings, like it's moronic UAC
interference, "calculating remaining time" stupidity when
copying/moving files, inability to remember settings, unable to
generate some thumbnails, play common files types, etc..

Gosh, am I just a lucky newbie or did you ignore the
instructions? I've been working with these gadgets since PDP-8
days and a lot of my software is home-grown, so perhaps I'm not
the average Vista user. In any case, Adam, if I had the problems
that plague you my attitude would be like yours. Presumably
you're going back to Windows 3.1?

 

[ceed]

The point is how stable Vista is depends on everybody's unique setup
and combination of software and to some extend how hard you push it.
All the things you raddled off are toys. Big deal. Try doing some
serious WORK with professional grade software then you may start to
see some of it's many shortcomings, like it's moronic UAC
interference, "calculating remaining time" stupidity when
copying/moving files, inability to remember settings, unable to
generate some thumbnails, play common files types, etc..

Amen to that! All this babysitter stuff on Vista drives me nuts! And it
seems as stable as XP was, but have more crashes since all the new
babysitter stuff crashes from time to time also. The UAC is the worst
ever! What I have done is run Vispa:

http://vispa.whyeye.org/

Gets rid of a lot of crap, and leave you with something manageable for
someone who drive their OS beyond YouTube.

I dualboot with Ubuntu Linux. Now that's an OS with few crashes! Doesn't
look as cool as Vista, but works like a charm all the time. Unfortunately
I have to be in Windows for work, but as soon as I can I get back to my
beloved stable Gnome desktop on Ubuntu.

 

[Jupiter Jones [MVP]]

No, luck has absolutely nothing to do with it.
Those who depend on luck for anything, not just computers, are setting
themselves to fail.
Good hardware and software as well as reasonable preparation go
farther toward success than luck ever will.

 

[Guest]

no crashes here either. i think vista is great. the only problem i have is
with the wallpaper. i'd like to get it fixed but i can live without it if it
means no more crashes.

 

[Onlurker]

Tutall, I use Scott's Wallpaper Changer (freeware,
donationware), plus a huge portfolio of interesting photographs.
Works flawlessly in Vista and is as old as dirt.

 

[Guest]

I'll give it a try thanks alot.

Tutall, I use Scott's Wallpaper Changer (freeware,
donationware), plus a huge portfolio of interesting photographs.
Works flawlessly in Vista and is as old as dirt.

 

[Guest]

Are you running iTunes? Mine runs just fine until I fire up iTunes and try
to do anything with my iPod. I can predict the number of blue screens....

 

[Onlurker]

No iTunes - sorry.
I *am* running a lot of strange stuff - including some in-house
software from the early 90s used for quality control of a
medical instrument. Vista loves it, probably because it never
registers and there's no dlls. I think 90% or more of my sw made
it across, which is better than 3.1 to 95.

 

[ray]

XP was stable, but still had problems once in a while.

With Vista Home Premium on this 9 week old laptop, I've had some
application compatibility issues but not one single case where
the system froze or crashed. It runs perhaps 12 hours a day,
too. It's fully tricked out with an active sidebar, accessories,
wallpaper-changer, and a few old applications, and I've done
plenty of experimenting. 95 and 98 were a crash a day, XP was a
crash a week, but this is as stable as a fresh 2000 install, and
a lot safer. Why all the groaning?

Damn. 36 months on Linux without one crash.

 

[ceed]

ffs, if you dont like UAC then turn it off

The problem is that Vista nags you every time you boot when you turn it
off. And some programs won't run without putting them in Win XP mode with
UAC disabled (Real Rhapsody being one of them). In my opinion Vista
should have three pre-configured modes:

1. For those who know what they are doing (no slapping your hand when you
want to do even the simplest things).

2. For the average Joe who wants some level of baby-sitting.

3. For the total newb or very paranoid.

Linux has had security built in for years without having to bother you
with time consuming repetitive nag. Sometimes it looks like a PR more
than real security. There's good third party software out there which can
do everything Vista does on the security side without constantly
bothering you.

 

[Adam Albright]

Gosh, am I just a lucky newbie or did you ignore the
instructions? I've been working with these gadgets since PDP-8
days and a lot of my software is home-grown, so perhaps I'm not
the average Vista user. In any case, Adam, if I had the problems
that plague you my attitude would be like yours. Presumably
you're going back to Windows 3.1?

I don't have problems running Vista, I simply point out flaws. Learn
the difference. If you want to come across as some "expert" then my
advice would be not to mention some gadgets or some wallpaper changer
that you've mastered as you expertise. It kind of blows your
creditability. ;-)

 

[Adam Albright]

ffs, if you dont like UAC then turn it off

Oh wow, thanks for that highly technical advice. How did you get so
smart?

 

[Adam Albright]

The problem is that Vista nags you every time you boot when you turn it
off. And some programs won't run without putting them in Win XP mode with
UAC disabled (Real Rhapsody being one of them). In my opinion Vista
should have three pre-configured modes:

1. For those who know what they are doing (no slapping your hand when you
want to do even the simplest things).

2. For the average Joe who wants some level of baby-sitting.

3. For the total newb or very paranoid.

Linux has had security built in for years without having to bother you
with time consuming repetitive nag. Sometimes it looks like a PR more
than real security. There's good third party software out there which can
do everything Vista does on the security side without constantly
bothering you.

My take, UAC is like the Homeland Security Department. Lots of
bluster, endless nagging, all talk, no action.